Team Mafia 2020 Normal Game: Scum PT

[skitter30]

we choose to no kill

No fast night, if you're starting to offer that

[Xtoxm]

i think teacher is the best to kill
i think he has the greatest solving ability out of the pack, and he also feels the least lynchable
flopz has been called scum by math, teacher, ari all had flopz in their poe
i also feel like flopz would be one of the easier ones to get to vote incorrectly?
plus theres titus's shos+flopz vca solve that im not eager to invalidate

[Xtoxm]

im fine to try some no kill rounds, tho

[skitter30]

i think teacher is the best to kill
i think he has the greatest solving ability out of the pack, and he also feels the least lynchable
flopz has been called scum by math, teacher, ari all had flopz in their poe
i also feel like flopz would be one of the easier ones to get to vote incorrectly?
plus theres titus's shos+flopz vca solve that im not eager to invalidate

Good points, all
I just think he would be willing to tunnel math for us tho
But getting people to vote flopz might be easier

Idk we have a while ro sort this out and it might not even come to this, we can sort it out if we nolynch again tom night

[Xtoxm]

well, killing him would let you push that angle, given he said something along the lines of ari town means math is scum
and math scum would be keeping me alive to vote shos, gives me a reason to not be dead (if my slot was actually town here, i should honestly be the next kill)

[Xtoxm]

I just think he would be willing to tunnel math for us tho

we dont know how much he has reassesed is the thing. thats the entire point of town doing the nl without talking.

[skitter30]

I dont particularly think he has

But yeah teacher is a good idea
I think they're going to break before we will have to, by virtue of the fact that they're going to want to talk about the no kill tom, at which point it will probably be too late to push for a no lynch

[Xtoxm]

that fact that town is unanimous on the no lynch, and followed my request to literally not talk does make me a bit wary on the no kill.
and im the type to dig in my heels as town in response to this, and keep nl-ing, so i'll have to mimic that.

[skitter30]

Why wary?

[Xtoxm]

as in, i can see them going through with it and keep nl-ing until we have to to avoid everyone losing
in which case i'd rather just get it done and not have a discussion about "who is more likely to do no kills"
if i was literally ok with everyone losing then i'd be more in for it, but my team is kinda counting on this scum win for differential

just talking. btw
i owe you a call and this is 100% your decision to make.

[skitter30]

Yeah i'm a little nervous to go down the 'who is more likely to no kill here'

I think i get pinned by that more than you do, in this pl.

Like i think teacher starts questioning me a bit
Math has a really low opinion of your understanding of mechanics
Flopz i dont think has a major opinion
I dont know what shos thinks

[skitter30]

Like our best option is to kill teacher and make shos the game-winning mislynch

I think getting someone to vote will be a lengthy process

I think we cant lose in 6way because i dont think teacher votes me and i dont think you're anyone prefered lynch

Actually i'm not lynchable in 5way if shos is townreading me hard?
Like i'm nervous of math/flopz going after me

[Xtoxm]

yeah i get the fear about math/flopz turning on you
getting shos to vote math is deffo a viable path to victory tho
hes voted him before

[skitter30]

that fact that town is unanimous on the no lynch, and followed my request to literally not talk does make me a bit wary on the no kill.
and im the type to dig in my heels as town in response to this, and keep nl-ing, so i'll have to mimic that.

Also just like, dont post until everyone else does?

[skitter30]

yeah i get the fear about math/flopz turning on you
getting shos to vote math is deffo a viable path to victory tho
hes voted him before

That's why killing flopz is better because i dont think we can lose in that 5way either

I guess shoukd we be optimizing chances to win or minimizing chances to lose

[skitter30]

*killing flopz is good, idk if better

[Xtoxm]

shos and math both have fairly well established trajectories
shos: math/xtox
math: shos/flopz

i dont know what flopz is going to think

[skitter30]

I'm p sure shos doesnt vote me here

[skitter30]

Yeah i dont like unpredictable things in my lylo

[skitter30]

Shos/math is dangerous on you tho

[skitter30]

I think they're going to break before we will have to, by virtue of the fact that they're going to want to talk about the no kill tom, at which point it will probably be too late to push for a no lynch

Is this likely at all?

[Xtoxm]

i dont know.
its my first game with all of them.

[skitter30]

My gut/undertsanding ays they'll break tomorrow
But we might get into trouble with 'who doesnt kill' because i think that points to me in this pl

Ok would you prefer optimizing our ability to win or our ability to not lose, because those arent quite the same thing, and lead yo different kills

[Xtoxm]

i feel like they are the same thing? by 'not lose' do you mean rocks fall? bc i do consider that losing

[skitter30]

I'm not sure how to articulate it exactly

Basically if teacher is alive i dont think we get voted tom really

If teacher isnt we run the risk of 1v1s i think