Mini Normal 2118: Boon Gets Pretentious - [Day 4]


Forum rules
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:27 pm

Post by clidd »

In post 1271, Hectic wrote:
In post 1269, Ame wrote:Wait a second I just noticed a contradiction:
In post 1187, dsjstr wrote:You had literally not included me on any of your scum reads and the one time you said that it was me I changed your mind because you thought one of my comments was funny. You are the one being inconsistent.
dsj if you knew I was scumreading you before
why did you think neighbors were confirmed town to each other
? Surely you would have picked up that it wasn't the case from the way I was treating you?
Lul, I respect how cocky you are if you're scum. Unsure if I should be townreading or scumreading how you keep shifting attention/focus.

Coukd you explain why AaronFF was your third strongest scumread start of day and now seems to be your strongest townread?
''
Coukd
''
-->
Hectic
, you gave me an indication of emotional reaction
town
in that word.
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:28 pm

Post by Ame »

I have considered it. If I thought it was 100% I wouldn't have been looking in other directions today. If dsj can explain the contradiction above, you're the rational choice today.
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:30 pm

Post by Ame »

Is Aaron due for a prod?
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:31 pm

Post by clidd »

Still .. Ame being
scum
still doesn't get into my head. Aaron being AFK in this game in the last pages would agree with my theory of him being
scum
.
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:33 pm

Post by clidd »

But I had the confirmation that Hectic is
town
by the slip in the word he gave. It was a demonstration of spirits '' rising '', possibly linked to his
town
energy of solving the Ame case. Considering that he has Karnage's vote of support, he would not need to show anxiety here.
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:35 pm

Post by clidd »

So the impasse is basically '' Aaron
scum
in my PoE '' vs ''
T
v
S
''.
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:36 pm

Post by Ame »

@Clidd read Aaron's post just before Insomnia's lynch. They clearly show that he was ignorant of Insomnia's alignment. There was no backtracking in his read at all. He really thought Insomnia would flip town.
User avatar
Hectic
Hectic
Mad Hatter
User avatar
User avatar
Hectic
Mad Hatter
Mad Hatter
Posts: 9613
Joined: June 30, 2019
Location: Dire Dire Docks

Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:37 pm

Post by Hectic »

Sure, I'll take it.

Ame, so, reasoning for Aaron 3rd scum to what sounds like locktown? I know you've provided reasons but that's all day 1 stuff. What triggered you to reevaluate/see it in a different light?
Reason I'm asking is because I can see scum motivation in you TRing and trying to pocket Aaron since he earlier expressed he thinks everyone on the Somni wagon is town.
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:39 pm

Post by Ame »

In post 1008, AaronFrost wrote:I still think insomnia is town honestly. I don't think scum gets that deathtunneled on a slot he knows to be town. I have my reservations about whether the mason claim could be faked, but that feels like a big risk to take even in a closed setup.

Karnage feels like a policy lynch, we'd get next to no info even if it flipped scum but if we need to compromise somewhere then I'll compromise there.

I'll need to review Hectic too because he's a big question mark for me. I feel like I can read him decently well most of the time but I don't have a solid read on him here.
In post 1009, AaronFrost wrote:If both masons live to see lylo then I'll be really concerned about the claim but for now there's no reason not to believe it
Literally no reason to post these as Insomnia's partner when Insomnia was about to be lynched
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:40 pm

Post by clidd »

Hum. Im thinking.
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:41 pm

Post by Ame »

In post 1282, Hectic wrote:Sure, I'll take it.

Ame, so, reasoning for Aaron 3rd scum to what sounds like locktown? I know you've provided reasons but that's all day 1 stuff. What triggered you to reevaluate/see it in a different light?
Reason I'm asking is because I can see scum motivation in you TRing and trying to pocket Aaron since he earlier expressed he thinks everyone on the Somni wagon is town.
There were discrepancies that I wanted addressed from you, Aaron, and dsj. Aaron answered all of my questions quickly and to my satisfaction and they reaffirmed what I had felt D1. Yours were also sufficient but NAI. dsk took forever to actually respond
User avatar
Hectic
Hectic
Mad Hatter
User avatar
User avatar
Hectic
Mad Hatter
Mad Hatter
Posts: 9613
Joined: June 30, 2019
Location: Dire Dire Docks

Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:45 pm

Post by Hectic »

I'm tired; disenaging for now. Gonna reevaluate Ame/Karnage again tomorrow and try and figure out if Ame is tunneling town or opportunistic scum.
User avatar
dsjstr
dsjstr
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
dsjstr
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1860
Joined: November 23, 2019
Location: Nunya

Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:46 pm

Post by dsjstr »

In post 1269, Ame wrote:Wait a second I just noticed a contradiction:
In post 1187, dsjstr wrote:You had literally not included me on any of your scum reads and the one time you said that it was me I changed your mind because you thought one of my comments was funny. You are the one being inconsistent.
dsj if you knew I was scumreading you before
why did you think neighbors were confirmed town to each other
? Surely you would have picked up that it wasn't the case from the way I was treating you?
At the time I thought you were trying to playoff that we are not actually neighbors. I believe it came after the comment I made that no one had actually claimed neighbors.
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:47 pm

Post by Ame »

darnnit I was really hoping that was a slip there

Hectic > Clidd
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:49 pm

Post by Ame »

im confident on dsj now

let's lynch hectic

/exit insomnia-emulator.exe
User avatar
dsjstr
dsjstr
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
dsjstr
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1860
Joined: November 23, 2019
Location: Nunya

Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:52 pm

Post by dsjstr »

I would like to point out that Ame is at L-1
User avatar
dsjstr
dsjstr
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
dsjstr
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1860
Joined: November 23, 2019
Location: Nunya

Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:53 pm

Post by dsjstr »

After I unvoted them I placed another vote on them.
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:53 pm

Post by clidd »

Considering that this is a
TvS
, so far, I've detected a
town
reaction from Hectic, so I'm not sure how to handle it if Ame is
scum
.
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:55 pm

Post by clidd »

However, this oscillation of choices is something strange, coming from Ame. I would associate it with a
town
behavior if she were inexperienced (which is definitely not the case).
User avatar
Ame
Ame
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Ame
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2866
Joined: December 5, 2019

Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:57 pm

Post by Ame »

What does experience have to do with it? Your reads have changed just as frequently if not more.
User avatar
AaronFrost
AaronFrost
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
AaronFrost
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3379
Joined: July 19, 2019
Location: EST

Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:09 pm

Post by AaronFrost »

Hi I'm still here. Doing a reread/analysis now. Stay tuned :wink:
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:10 pm

Post by clidd »

Oscillation of choices is a characteristic of insecurity, present in newbie players, but not so normal in more experienced players.
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:10 pm

Post by clidd »

My situation is totally different from yours.
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:12 pm

Post by clidd »

Considering that scum, for me, is Aaron, but everyone has different ideas, and suddenly, a conflict arises between you and Hectic, evidencing a TVS because neither of you questioned Karnage's authenticity in raising that vote, I have a lot of conflicts to deal with.
User avatar
clidd
clidd
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
clidd
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8236
Joined: January 18, 2020
Location: Spain

Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:13 pm

Post by clidd »

I don't know how my head hasn't exploded yet with these recent events.
Locked