Micro 922: Strawberry Mafia (Game over!)

[Luca Blight]

If my interpretation that it is implied is correct then it follows that my interpretation of what it means is also correct, as the latter was based on the former.

If we're talking conditionally, then, based on the condition that I am scum in my imagining, it is true that I'm scum in that state.

Just because you didn't want your question to be read that way, doesn't mean I'm wrong in having read it that way. Be more clear in your wording next time.

[Ame]

If the wording didn't have a degree of ambiguity, the question would be meaningless as you wouldn't have to think about it further.

Vote: Luca's Pride

I think it's Compath/Ico as well.

[Luca Blight]

If the wording didn't have a degree of ambiguity, the question would be meaningless as you wouldn't have to think about it further.

I agree with that, but I don't agree with being told my (or anyone else's) interpretation was wrong.

An ambiguous question shouldn't have a fixed answer.

[Ame]

@Luca, now that you have my answers, why is it that you wanted my response? Your redirecting to me here makes me feel like you felt there was actually something to get out of the questions/my response. Or maybe I'm misreading the tone and it's not actually antagonistic?

Could you address this? (Twas hidden in my my ame-miami spoiler)

[Luca Blight]

Looking over Compath, he seems to be just coasting on the Clidd SR, despite evidence that suggests this is his Town game, while loosely TR'ing most of the other players in
the game.

I think Luca's interactions with Slaxx make him pretty obvious town.

His tone is also pretty good.

While I always appreciate being called obvious town, this feels like a lazy read where he sees an active, aggressive player and just sorts them as town for convenience. He did the same with my earlier interaction with Kanna, calling it TvT.

In general I just don't see any town-indicative play coming from this slot.

[Luca Blight]

@Luca, now that you have my answers, why is it that you wanted my response? Your redirecting to me here makes me feel like you felt there was actually something to get out of the questions/my response. Or maybe I'm misreading the tone and it's not actually antagonistic?

Could you address this? (Twas hidden in my my ame-miami spoiler)

I wanted nothing in particular, I just wanted to see your answers and what you'd make of everything.

[Iconeum]

i'm about 8 pages behind catching up during the coming hours

[Iconeum]

What I saw in your interaction with Ame was a possible approach to a death tunnel, which did not materialize due to external interaction. Evidently, considering that you're scum. In the town!Ico scenario, I believe that post 27 would become an assimilation with an individual experience, which was not well worked out, but provided an initial horizon to develop a premature dialogue between both. I still think about both possibilities, but I'm considering scum!Ico trying to architect something here.

Town!Ico never does that?

omg it's you

[Iconeum]

gottem

[Luca Blight]

I'll go over why I think

Icon

is scum. He has more posts so I might break it down over the next 2/3 posts:

Spoiler:

Hello! Everyone, please answer these very important questions. I've spent thousands of hours researching questions that are guaranteed to distinguish scum from town. If everyone answers, we should know the scum team within the first page!

1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?

VOTE: DrDoLittle

for voting a townie

fun fact: last couple of times (or was it just once? not sure) i saw someone open with this it was scum who wanted to blend in.
Also do you think that voting for a townie is scum indicative?

This feels a bit like risk-free shading.

Spoiler:

Just skimmed through, this is how I roughly feel about everyone right now:

Hectic - SL
DrDolittle - TL
Compath - TL
Kanna - SL
Ame - TL
Slaxx - SL
clidd - TL
Iconeum - SL

I'll go into more detail shortly.

are we really going down this road again?
i'm here if you wanna engage about anything luca

I'm trying to stay open-minded after last time I have to ISO you again, but your opening seemed a bit more intense than what I'm used to from Town!Icon.

IIRC, last game we were both town? And we hard scumread each other right?

I SR Icon due to his approach to me this game - I feel like he's been trying to get me on his side. Here he's overreacting a bit to the 'SL', reminding me of the last game I tunneled him. This could be Town frustration, but could also be nervous scum.

Spoiler:

Things are going to be

hectic

with you around.

VOTE: Hectic

who are you?

This seems a weird question at this stage. Trying to make out they can't be partners as he doesn't know who Compath is?

Spoiler:

Though i'm not sure what your scum plan is by doing any of this

It's not a position you wanna be in if ur scum, and you could have easily just gone with the flow once heat turned up

ehhhhhh

This is scummy because Icon was attacking Ame, I defended her in 166 and then Icon later backs out of the SR by using the same reasoning, without referencing where it came from. He wants to look like he's reconsidering, but I forced him to reconsider and he's making it look as though he had that thought-process himself, if that makes sense.

I’ll die on this hill

rip

This is scummy because Icon later said he TR's Slaxx, so why no comment at all on Luca v Slaxx apart from this?

Tbc...

[Luca Blight]

Oh, Icon is online while I'm casing him.

This could mean war.

[Iconeum]

I think Ame sounded really genuine in #415, like she was pouring her heart out. I think Clidd might be town cause he seems really invested in solving; don't know if scum goes this far.

kanna is town this game, the way he formulates this is how town tries to sort i think

If the wording didn't have a degree of ambiguity, the question would be meaningless as you wouldn't have to think about it further.

Vote: Luca's Pride

I think it's Compath/Ico as well.

what is this supposed to mean? You wanna vote luca but think it's compath + me? After you just 'towncased' me based on that RQS?

[Iconeum]

Oh, Icon is online while I'm casing him.

This could mean war.

[Iconeum]

I'ma reply as I see it coming luca

The first part 'risk free shading' I don't get. That was the post where I started pushing Ame. There was no actual shading, I was full blown pushing that slot starting there.

[Iconeum]

Now that I see it again, I STILL scumread that. There's no townie reason for ame to have such a strong townread at that time, based on a single (NAI) post. And later ame confirmed it was in fact a serious townread.

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

Slaxx is sorting, making reads. I don't scumread him at all, but it's not like I have him as hard town either.

If you give me a gun and make me choose between slaxx and clidd, i shoot clidd.

''Give me a buddy''

- Iconeum

.

Why would I choose to fight Luca over his reads, when I could agree with them and make 2 buddies in the process?

I think he's town actually. And I think Clidd is scum. I know your meta defence of him, but the dude is literally not providing any reads unless I missed them. He's spewing large posts that actually have little to no content in them, and they sure don't make a point.

Literally trying to look active without having to commit to anything.

Parable of the ''safe'' lynch,

scum detected

.

explain?

There was no interest on your part in the case, and apathy about the possibility of me being a town. Unconsciously, you are willing to find a target to lynch without arousing suspicion.

Did you see me go after ame? Trying to target a lynch without arousing suspicion is hardly what I would call myself this game. But if you wanna cherrypick certain stuff, sure.

This

'look at all the town things I did!'

feels more likely to come from scum.

I also feel he's exaggerating the extent to which he 'butted heads' with me over the reads.

[Luca Blight]

I'ma reply as I see it coming luca

The first part 'risk free shading' I don't get. That was the post where I started pushing Ame. There was no actual shading, I was full blown pushing that slot starting there.

Yeah, the stuff based on the early game isn't that strong, but it felt like you were dipping your toe in the water there.

Granted you did commit yourself to the push soon thereafter.

[Iconeum]

My 'overreaction' to you SL'ing me is an overreaction? I asked you to interact with me, and reminded you we did this exaxt same thing last game and reminded you about our allignments that game.

Not gonna deny that 'I'm trying to get you on my side', but I call that building a town block.

Not sure what you see there tbh

[Iconeum]

This is scummy because Icon was attacking Ame, I defended her in 166 and then Icon later backs out of the SR by using the same reasoning, without referencing where it came from. He wants to look like he's reconsidering, but I forced him to reconsider and he's making it look as though he had that thought-process himself, if that makes sense.

My dude. Are you doing this on purpose? The misreppping?
Are you actually scumpushing me?

169 'Luca gets the credit for this one' or smt.

[Luca Blight]

It seemed a bit early for a Townbloc. If you had sufficient reason to TR me then fair enough, but at that stage it seemed like conflict-prevention.

[Iconeum]

it felt like you were dipping your toe in the water there.

Well yeah? This isn't wrong...

[Luca Blight]

This is scummy because Icon was attacking Ame, I defended her in 166 and then Icon later backs out of the SR by using the same reasoning, without referencing where it came from. He wants to look like he's reconsidering, but I forced him to reconsider and he's making it look as though he had that thought-process himself, if that makes sense.

My dude. Are you doing this on purpose? The misreppping?
Are you actually scumpushing me?

169 'Luca gets the credit for this one' or smt.

I wasn't referring to that.

That post was regarding who caught Spangled in that game, nothing to do with your change in read on Ame.

[Iconeum]

the 'rip slaxx' post was literally a joke

[Luca Blight]

In general I SR you for similar reasons I SR Compath - a lack of solving. You went after Ame early on, which petered out after I pointed out 'what is the scum motivation'. You've since then sat on a Clidd SR despite strong meta evidence he is Town. You're loosely TR'ing most of the other players in the game and not really putting your best foot forward like I know 'Town Icon' can

[Luca Blight]

the 'rip slaxx' post was literally a joke

I know it was.

The joke wasn't scummy - it was more what you

didn't do

than what you

did

, if you get me.