Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[Alduskkel]

I'd vote you if I weren't already voting you.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I'd vote you if I weren't already voting you.

Why’s that?

[Alduskkel]

cuz ur scummy

[Klick]

VOTE: TSE

I’m not buying your Auro town read. Anyone could have easily said what Auro said regardless of alignment.

Auro, in post 85 you defended TSE by saying you thought TSE was just memeing, but post 90 makes it clear that’s not the case. Does this change your read at all?

It’s weak but I’m considering his reaction Town for now.
That’s what I’m saying.

Hello! As I asked several times earlier, could you explain why you think this?

[Klick]

Chemist what's your setup familiarity?

with this one?

I read the wiki page

What's the purpose of this question? You're veering dangerously close to an RQS scumtell which seems to be becoming a thing in recent meta.

I'm assuming this is to me? I think I've already answered this

[Auro]

Just noting that townreads should hold lesser weight as basis of attacks this game, generally speaking.

[Klick]

@Auro

Something that bothers me is Klick said the following:

one post reads are generally not a good idea in my experience

Town

And didn’t give my read on you a pass.

Makes me think they are probably scum.

Fwiw this was 100% a troll response, I don't have a read on Chem yet

[Klick]

UNVOTE:
I actually kinda like the exchange between TSE and Ald for TSE. He still hasn't clearly explained why he gave the Auro townread, but 147 explains it in a way that I kinda get and pushing further on it doesn't feel productive.at a baby group, I'll have a think about where my vote should go when I'm back.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: TSE

I’m not buying your Auro town read. Anyone could have easily said what Auro said regardless of alignment.

Auro, in post 85 you defended TSE by saying you thought TSE was just memeing, but post 90 makes it clear that’s not the case. Does this change your read at all?

It’s weak but I’m considering his reaction Town for now.
That’s what I’m saying.

Hello! As I asked several times earlier, could you explain why you think this?

Because there is no Mason PT according to the rules we just know alignments.
The fact he said PT makes me believe he is VT.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: TSE

Mason hunting bad

[Yshtola Rhul]

Just noting that townreads should hold lesser weight as basis of attacks this game, generally speaking.

Which of these attacks do you believe is unfounded?

[Auro]

None, really. I'd rather not detail why I said it.

Townread Aldus (and Aldus, Aether is Rhul) and my townread on Klick strengthened.

@Mod, some prods are due I think?

[Hectic]

VoteCount 1.5

RVS Award for

I'm Very Concerned Right Now

goes to...

mod: can i play w/o reading my role card?

No.

dang, ok i read it ready to go

CheekyTeeky [4]

- Cat Scratch Fever, Auro, Yshtola Rhul, woodchuck321

TrueSoulEnergy [2]

- Alduskkel, Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Not Voting [4]

- rb, MafMen, Homura, Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

MafMen has requested replacement.
Replacing rb, who did not pick up his role PM.

[Hectic]

Miss Lynch replaces MafMen!

[Miss Lane]

Hi. I'm Miss Lynch. I exclusively play in MafTiger in protest for how terrible it is. Did you know that there are several buttons that are completely invisible in MafTiger, and some (like the Q+ button) simply do not exist at all?

VOTE: alskadel

[Miss Lane]

Also, the font editing that makes votes stand out so much on other themes is not present at all on MafTiger. That vote was serious and I have skimmed enough to be somewhat caught up.

[Auro]

Random vote, or serious?
If serious, why?

[Auro]

Sorry, didn't read properly. But I'd still like an explanation

[Homura]

Because there is no Mason PT according to the rules we just know alignments.
The fact he said PT makes me believe he is VT.

Why did you rule out Auro WIFOMing?

[woodchuck321]

I got nothing to do, so I'll jump on.

VOTE: CheekyTreeky

Hmm. To omgus or not to omgus?

VOTE: Woodchuck

Ok I want to lynch in {Wood, Aldus, Klick} at this point.

I like how Cheeky comes on and starts a. random voting & b. saying many things in short-ish messages when he sees there's a wagon on him.

[CheekyTeeky]

I got nothing to do, so I'll jump on.

VOTE: CheekyTreeky

Hmm. To omgus or not to omgus?

VOTE: Woodchuck

Ok I want to lynch in {Wood, Aldus, Klick} at this point.

I like how Cheeky comes on and starts a. random voting & b. saying many things in short-ish messages when he sees there's a wagon on him.

That's all you have a problem with? The length of my posts?

[CheekyTeeky]

Empty how?

Chemist what's your setup familiarity?

How does this question serve any purpose? As I mentioned earlier scum tend to pose useless questions in RVS ime.

Another example:

PEdit: why do you post so much?

It's good that he follows up with

Klick why did you specifically ask Chemist (and not any other player) about his familiarity with the setup?

His first post seemed like he was in tune with the setup yet I've never seen a game of this setup with him in it. Wasn't sure if it ran in some marathon weekends that I missed. I'm also more familiar with Chemist than the rest of this list.

But then no read is given until here: which is wtf. It could be a joke or reaction test, but then again that reinforces the idea that his RVS question had no purpose. I don't see follow up if it was intended as reaction bait.

one post reads are generally not a good idea in my experience

Town

After mentioning that Chemist is the only player he is familiar with he assumes he knows how town!TSE would behave.

I can see your logic but I'm not convinced it's where town!TSE would go in their logic.

Like tl;dr I don't actually see klick sorting. I just see content for the sake of content. I've seen one town read on yshtola, one scumread on TSE who I'm pretty sure is town. Each of those reads is the only real content in his ISO.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ugh I see we're going to be banging heads again Auro

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Cheeky, can you quote some of TSE's posts that you think are out of his scumrange?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Yeah I think there’s actually more value for VTs to inflate their townreads as a sort of mason cover

If you can justify a strong townread on someone and get the scum to believe you’re masons and shoot you, that outs a scum and clears a town

VOTE: TSE

Mason hunting bad

Explain the progression here? I don't track this vote.