Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[Auro]

VOTE: Homura
I think this and Miss Lynch both have decent chances of being scum.

Chemist, your accusation of TSE is unfair, he was pressed for reasoning and *then* said he thought I was VT over scum because of the "slip". I don't see why town shouldn't distinguish between Masons and VTs in their sorting process. I feel like you made up a reason to sit on TSE's wagon.

[Hectic]

VoteCount 1.7

RVS Award for

Aww, How Innocent

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VOTE: Accountant cause we don't need no stinking skilled players!!!
Good morning everyone, what a fine day it is, except for the whole "our town is corrupted by Mafia" issue.

Alright then.

VOTE: Accountant

UNVOTE: Accountant
(I'm not being serious, just random voting time)

Spoiler: Guess Vampirate's alignment before opening this spoiler.

Scum

CheekyTeeky [3]

- Cat Scratch Fever, Yshtola Rhul, woodchuck321

TrueSoulEnergy [2]

- Alduskkel, Chemist1422

Homura [2]

- Klick, Auro

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Alduskkel [1]

- Miss Lynch

Not Voting [2]

- popsofctown, Homura

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

[CheekyTeeky]

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Is it bad that I want to scumread you Auro?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Homura
I think this and Miss Lynch both have decent chances of being scum.

Like can you at least show your working here?

[Auro]

I'm townreading a lot of the active posters, primarily.
Homura is coasting on the TSE attack.
Miss Lynch's opening posts are scummy, she "skims" the game and votes Aldusskel without any explanation.

My play might not match your expectations of my townplay, by the way - I'm a lot less serious about this game

[Auro]

VOTE: Homura
because rebellion was a mistake

I did nothing wrong.

VOTE: TSE

I’m not buying your Auro town read. Anyone could have easily said what Auro said regardless of alignment.

What'd you make of Auro saying it wa a valid reason to townread him?

Because there is no Mason PT according to the rules we just know alignments.
The fact he said PT makes me believe he is VT.

Why did you rule out Auro WIFOMing?

This is all Homura has to offer about the game?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@CT
It’s not like people’s beginning Reads are set in stone.
I see people go “Wolfy Post” or “Town Post” at the start.
It isn’t directly a strong read it just means they had a good/bad entrance and they wanted to point it out.

I think we're talking past each other. I was pointing out hypocrisy in klicks read progressions. Like he said Chem was the only one he was familiar with but then said that he didn't think town!tse would do x. How would he know what scum or town you would do if he's not familiar with you?

Well a Play Style is never alignment indicative so maybe their basing it off of my reactions and interactions which I find that is most likely to be the case.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I'm actually kinda confused now. TSE, what do you make of 70? Do you still think Auro is town in light of that post?

It’s Null.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: Homura
I think this and Miss Lynch both have decent chances of being scum.

Chemist, your accusation of TSE is unfair, he was pressed for reasoning and *then* said he thought I was VT over scum because of the "slip". I don't see why town shouldn't distinguish between Masons and VTs in their sorting process. I feel like you made up a reason to sit on TSE's wagon.

I’d feel this way too but Let’s just say me and Chemist have “History”

[TrueSoulEnergy]

He honestly would just place a vote on me for any reason just for the sack of getting rid of me.

If someone said “PL TSE”
He would join that vote.

[Auro]

Combine that with the lack of other meaningful content and it's scummy.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Combine that with the lack of other meaningful content and it's scummy.

Fair.

[CheekyTeeky]

TSE thoughts on Wood?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm a lot less serious about this game

And yet I'm finding your tone more stiff.

[Auro]

And yet I'm finding your tone more stiff.

*shrug* I think my tone's always like this Anything else that makes you want to scumread me?

[CheekyTeeky]

Na it's just the tone thing. I think I'll roll with letting the game sort you as it progresses.

[Miss Lane]

I'm townreading a lot of the active posters, primarily.
Homura is coasting on the TSE attack.
Miss Lynch's opening posts are scummy, she "skims" the game and votes Aldusskel without any explanation.

My play might not match your expectations of my townplay, by the way - I'm a lot less serious about this game

What's scummy about that? Solid reasoning for Alk has already been given, I don't like how you're trying to frame "skimming the game" as something scummy to do.

[popsofctown]

Ok I might read this game now but I'm going to take one shot every time Hectic posted and it wasn't a VC, every time anyone mentions masons, and one shot any time CheekyTeeky says something that doesn't make sense to me.

[Miss Lane]

Additionally, I think explanations for votes are overrated and used far more often than warranted. While it's possible, even likely, that we don't see eye-to-eye on this matter, thinking that it's scummy seems to be a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Finally, I think it's pretty scummy that of the players in the game right now, the only two you can really list as possibly scummy are Homura and me. Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.

[Miss Lane]

Ok I might read this game now but I'm going to take one shot every time Hectic posted and it wasn't a VC, every time anyone mentions masons, and one shot any time CheekyTeeky says something that doesn't make sense to me.

You're going to get wasted awfully quick.

[popsofctown]

Welcome to the most fun Mafia setup that there is. I'm Klick, the Mason. My partners can reveal if they wish.

VOTE: Alduskkel
Rebellion was flawed and far worse than the original series, but still definitely worth watching

oh god my poor liver it is going to need mercy isn't it

[popsofctown]

Mason mindgames are antitown

[CheekyTeeky]

Mason mason mason.

[Auro]

Solid reasoning for Alk has already been given

You're the only vote on Alk. Maybe I missed it, where's the "solid reasoning for Alk"? Quote please.

Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.

Lot of words in your posts but little reasoning. Maybe show me the "solid reasons for suspicion"? Who are these several players?

[popsofctown]

Hello everybody, my name is Y'shtola Rhul. I am here as an observer and a scholar to the art of mafia.

I will be on standby if needed.

actually you're here as a player so you should be scumhunting not standing by

unless you're scum in which case feel free to stand by until we get around to lynching you

This is a scummy post since it should be somewhat intuitive that a "hiding strategy" for masons is almost as dominant as active scumhunting from the symmetry of the setup.

Klique**

Spoiler: not klique

RVS Award for

Of Course They Were VT

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Mafia, I'm your traitor. Don't kill me please.

policy daykill: Kokichi Oma

All kinds of shots huh

Why so? If I saw someone try to pull off that kind of gambit, I'd want to townread them as well.

Mindmelding with how Klick responds in the following post, about how this is dissonant.
This is implies a confession that getting townread was as much motivation as humor, which is scum indicative, although town also wants to survive.

TSE, did you roll scum again?

Huh I don't remember you being in B4M.

Ok Chemist, hopefully no one catches we’re masons this soon.

I’d agree that Egix could be scum this game

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Open queue in a nutshell

At least this game has a moderator tho
You feel that Hectic the more I expect out of you the more you are forced to deliver
You are going to be the first Open Queue mod I've had that doesn't trigger their own forcereplace conditions you hear me?

It's not clear to me that the read isn't serious. But also, the read can't be both serious and memeing.
It's ambiguous and I'd like to hear what TSE has to say about it. I can see your logic but I'm not convinced it's where town!TSE would go in their logic.

I really disagree in that I feel the shebang is townie for TSE and scummy for Auro. Or null for TSE and I was townreading him from something earlier. I can only be so organized ok. You keep triggering shots.

I'll hit the post button here but keep going