Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[popsofctown]

Additionally, I think explanations for votes are overrated and used far more often than warranted. While it's possible, even likely, that we don't see eye-to-eye on this matter, thinking that it's scummy seems to be a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Finally, I think it's pretty scummy that of the players in the game right now, the only two you can really list as possibly scummy are Homura and me. Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.

Which players fit this criteria?

How do you feel about being <my townread that is definitionally tied with all other townreads I have>

[Alduskkel]

VOTE: Egix

[Auro]

Also, while I'd *love* to talk about White Flag, mods said to treat it as an ongoing game, so ugh.

I want to alt-hunt Rhul. Hmm.

[Egix96]

Egix, who do you scumread?

Honestly no idea.

[Alduskkel]

so how do you plan on fixing that

[popsofctown]

Also, while I'd *love* to talk about White Flag, mods said to treat it as an ongoing game, so ugh.

I want to alt-hunt Rhul. Hmm.

Micc nommed the Open for a scummy and then said you can discuss the completed games as long as you don't discuss team dynamics
I'm like, meh about Team Mafia as a general concept itself, (which may or may not be sour grapes at my -individual- loss) so am probably gonna say whatever, feel free to refuse to respond or report my posts and try to get me banned etc.
Kinda am not vibing with watching the mod nom a townie for an award for using verbal abuse to scumhunt and make the scum more readable and then turn around and respect a gag order about the event but that's just drunkpops

[Yshtola Rhul]

It appears like you are scumreading players for not explaining their thoughts. Is this accurate?

Not really. In Homura's case, for having only that thought and nothing else. In Miss Lynch's case, for claiming many things which I find untrue ("solid cases on XYZ") and refusing to explain them, along with other reasons.

I'm confused, this appears to be reinforcing my thought rather than discounting it.

[Miss Lane]

This isn't a rebuttal, at best an excuse. I think we both know that you know better than "just because someone isn't voting them now doesn't mean they've never voted them."

I'm confused by what you are saying in this post. Can you reiterate?

Auro tries to accuse me of voting for Asduck with no previously stated reasoning, and backs up his claim by saying that no one is currently voting Askud. My response to him is that this looks like pointlessly flinging shit in my direction. Someone had previously stated reasoning for voting Asgard while doing so, and (as far as I'm aware) solely unvoted due to said player finding a more appealing reason to vote elsewhere. So not only is his argument theoretically irrelevant to the point that he's trying to reach, it is practically so as well. He should know significantly better than this. To me it looks like he's trying to find players that he can get away with scum reading and he doesn't want to back off of his stance because it draws negative attention in his direction if he can get away with saying things that seem like they're relevant but aren't.

[popsofctown]

i want to believe yshtola is a main because viera are beautiful

[popsofctown]

Ankamius shares my love of viera so there's alt equity there though

[Auro]

I'm confused, this appears to be reinforcing my thought rather than discounting it.

As in "not explaining thoughts" is not an isolated reason I'm scumreading them for?

[Auro]

Hello everybody, my name is Y'shtola Rhul. I am here as an observer and a scholar to the art of mafia.

I will be on standby if needed.

I'm 100% sure this doesn't come from a fresh main account. I found this and Ald's reaction to it hilarious.

[popsofctown]

Auro I didn't say I should believe
I said I want to believe
don't hurt me

[Auro]

Auro tries to accuse me of voting for Asduck with no previously stated reasoning, and backs up his claim by saying that no one is currently voting Askud. My response to him is that this looks like pointlessly flinging shit in my direction.

You're the only vote on Alk.

Maybe I missed it, where's the "solid reasoning for Alk"? Quote please.

[Alduskkel]

Kinda am not vibing with watching the mod nom a townie for an award for using verbal abuse to scumhunt and make the scum more readable and then turn around and respect a gag order about the event but that's just drunkpops

wait do you mean auro or is it a player not in this game?

[Miss Lane]

Additionally, I think explanations for votes are overrated and used far more often than warranted. While it's possible, even likely, that we don't see eye-to-eye on this matter, thinking that it's scummy seems to be a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Finally, I think it's pretty scummy that of the players in the game right now, the only two you can really list as possibly scummy are Homura and me. Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.

Which players fit this criteria?

Klick, woodchuck, Asgor, chemist

[Alduskkel]

i was working under the impression that yshtola isn't an alt

[popsofctown]

Not a player in this game.
Evaluating the strength of Auro's play in White Flag is complex but the sportsmanship his sportsmanship in WhiteFlag is plainly 10/10

[Egix96]

so how do you plan on fixing that

This afternoon I'll have a go.

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like the stuff you quoted is more conversational rather than scum trying to make content for the sake of content.

What's the difference?

[Auro]

Micc nommed the Open for a scummy and then said you can discuss the completed games as long as you don't discuss team dynamics

Ah sure then.

The game being part of Team Mafia made me a lot more competitive for the win, so I put in

a lot

of effort there, while being unfairly scumread by a bunch of non-cooperating townsfolk. I was telling Cheeky not to expect that level of effort and patience this game.

[popsofctown]

Hm I think I would not townread yshtola if I really thought she was a main

If hecticgenie grants my wish that she is a main against literally all indications and reason she would not be townread she would be HYPERTOWNREAD HER
(but more seriously my townread of her is based on my idea of how an alt would approach this game)

[Alduskkel]

I feel like the stuff you quoted is more conversational rather than scum trying to make content for the sake of content.

What's the difference?

It reads more like NAI human conversation than scum filler.

[Yshtola Rhul]

Hm I think I would not townread yshtola if I really thought she was a main

If hecticgenie grants my wish that she is a main against literally all indications and reason she would not be townread she would be HYPERTOWNREAD HER
(but more seriously my townread of her is based on my idea of how an alt would approach this game)

What is your idea of how an alt would approach this game?

[popsofctown]

alduskkell you are getting precipitously close from jumping from null to DEFINITIONALLY TIED WITH MY OTHER TOWNREADS