Mini 627 - Riverworld Smalltown - Over!!!

armlx · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:22 am

Doesn't that inconsistency at least deserve some pressure?

I don't know how inconsistent is it or isn't.

TheHermit · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:11 am

Cyberbob wrote:I don't know if I'd call it "waffling", precisely.
"Equivocating"
has a much nicer ring to it.

I didn't know that word, so I had to look it up. On review... I guess, maybe if you squint and ignore that I did clarify myself. To wit; is anyone confused about where I stand on the No Lynch issue still?

Megatron · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:17 am

I don't see how wanting to make a day as long as it needs to be is a bad thing, much less how it could be construed as anti-town.

NabakovNabakov · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:41 am

Megatron wrote:I don't see how wanting to make a day as long as it needs to be is a bad thing, much less how it could be construed as anti-town.

You're acting anti-town because we wouldn't need a day at all if everybody was playing like you are.

Let's try this:

Is there anybody you are suspicious of? Why?
How do you feel about the various "wagons"/singular votes that are going around?

TheHermit · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:37 pm

I just realized that I haven't been looking too closely on what's been going on, and I probably missed something major. I'm rereading now. With seven or eight good pages, I think there's enough material here to find

something

Alabaska J · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:27 pm

So Megatron isn't contributing enough? So the wagon is on him because he is actively lurking? I sthis it? I wanna know if I've got it now…

Cyberbob · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:09 pm

Alabaska J wrote:So Megatron isn't contributing enough? So the wagon is on him because he is actively lurking? I sthis it? I wanna know if I've got it now…

From what I've seen, that is indeed what the majority of his votes are for. Mine is mostly for his minor tantrum over having a role that's likely only to get one shot at using its role (his opinion, not mine).

TheHermit · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:01 pm

A few things I gleaned from a reread:

I am having a very, very hard time reading Claus. Are all PR roles like this? Right now I'm just hoping he's not scum, because I don't know how I'm going to catch him if he is.

Haven't heard from Winter in a while. This concerns me.

Mod Request: Prod W!nt3r

Nabakov seems to be setting up a "with me or against me" thing, with his railing over how saying you're indifferent to a bandwagon contributes to its death. I'm leaning towards reading this as honest passion, but the way it's presented doesn't sit right with me. The reasons don't necessarily apply at this point in time, but depending on how the pressure on Megatron turns out I might come back to this. Just in case I forget later, if you're rereading and I'm still alive and haven't commented on this, please prod me into doing so. Thanks in advance!

My thoughts on Megatron himself are in a formulative state. I'll wait to see how he responds to the latest questions asked of him before making them public, because I don't want to distract him from them. I'm very much looking forward to his answers.

Pug hasn't contributed a whole lot. I'm also concerned about how freely he asked for advice on how to use his night action. Sounds like, "Hey guys, what would be the most townie thing for me to do?"

Vote: Pug89

Now that I've got your attention, any thoughts on recent goings-on?

Megatron · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:02 pm

...dude, once again, it wasn't a tantrum, what is it with you?

I'm just saying it how it is. Hell, I knew when I picked the role that it paints a huge target on my back.

Is there anybody you are suspicious of? Why?
How do you feel about the various "wagons"/singular votes that are going around?

there's only so much you can get from random wagons. No one's gotten twitchy or sputtery yet, and although there were a few real flimsy votes, I tend to have a higher threshold for flimsy votes on day 1, unless they end up getting someone lynched.

Couple of things in my notes so far, I'll go through it some time today, have to leave soon.

Claus · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:29 pm

Vote Analysis.

Twomz · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:05 am

I'm still here. I've been reading along at work and at home, but nothing has been striking me as really commentable. I'll let y'all know if this changes.

Claus · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:37 am

Discuss TheHermit?

armlx · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:09 am

I am definitely no longer indifferent to a Hermit wagon after that last post + vote.

Unvote, Vote TheHermit

Alabaska J · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:55 am

Asking for questions about your night choice is NOT scummy. That post seems like scum trying to start a lurker wagon for very bad reasons IMO.

unvote, vote: TheHermit

.

Pug89 · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:57 am

TheHermit wrote: Pug hasn't contributed a whole lot. I'm also concerned about how freely he asked for advice on how to use his night action. Sounds like, "Hey guys, what would be the most townie thing for me to do?"

Or I don't want to squander my abilities since they are only one-shots and I wanted other opinions. I haven't made a decision yet. I will keep the suggestions in mind but I'm ultimately going to make my own decision. I feel this is an extremely weak excuse. I don't like it that you are discouraging discussion of night actions. Obviously the final decision shouldn't be posted in thread, but discussion could help the town.

Vote: TheHermit

I am having a very, very hard time reading Claus. Are all PR roles like this? Right now I'm just hoping he's not scum, because I don't know how I'm going to catch him if he is.

This is a very good point, but we still have his votes and any night actions he may absorb later in the game.[/b]

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:10 am

Official Vote Count

(Page 11, Day 1)

Megatron

- 3 (NabakovNabakovob, Cyberbob, Twomz)

TheHermit

- 5 (Claus, Rishi, armlx, Alabaska J, Pug89)

Cyberbob

- 1 (shafted)

Pug89

- 1 (TheHermit)

Not Voting:

(Pug89, W!nt3r, Megatron)

With 12 alive, it is 7 votes to lynch. 6 is a no lynch.

Note: accidently deleted this vote count, fixed.

W!nt3r · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:12 am

TheHermit wrote:A few things I gleaned from a reread:

I am having a very, very hard time reading Claus. Are all PR roles like this? Right now I'm just hoping he's not scum, because I don't know how I'm going to catch him if he is.

Haven't heard from Winter in a while. This concerns me.
Mod Request: Prod W!nt3r

Nabakov seems to be setting up a "with me or against me" thing, with his railing over how saying you're indifferent to a bandwagon contributes to its death. I'm leaning towards reading this as honest passion, but the way it's presented doesn't sit right with me. The reasons don't necessarily apply at this point in time, but depending on how the pressure on Megatron turns out I might come back to this. Just in case I forget later, if you're rereading and I'm still alive and haven't commented on this, please prod me into doing so. Thanks in advance!

My thoughts on Megatron himself are in a formulative state. I'll wait to see how he responds to the latest questions asked of him before making them public, because I don't want to distract him from them. I'm very much looking forward to his answers.

Pug hasn't contributed a whole lot. I'm also concerned about how freely he asked for advice on how to use his night action. Sounds like, "Hey guys, what would be the most townie thing for me to do?"
Vote: Pug89
Now that I've got your attention, any thoughts on recent goings-on?

What about it concerns you? My role is strictly a day centric role, so me discussing what I do tonight is un-needed and because my vote counts x2 I can't just start pointing fingers...

I'm reading everything and taking notes to keep up with who is attacking who and why. I don't want to put out a double vote on unfounded arguments, which is all I've been seeing.

Alabaska J · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:17 am

Pug89 wrote:
TheHermit wrote: Pug hasn't contributed a whole lot. I'm also concerned about how freely he asked for advice on how to use his night action. Sounds like, "Hey guys, what would be the most townie thing for me to do?"
Or I don't want to squander my abilities since they are only one-shots and I wanted other opinions. I haven't made a decision yet. I will keep the suggestions in mind but I'm ultimately going to make my own decision. I feel this is an extremely weak excuse. I don't like it that you are discouraging discussion of night actions. Obviously the final decision shouldn't be posted in thread, but discussion could help the town.

Vote: TheHermit

I am having a very, very hard time reading Claus. Are all PR roles like this? Right now I'm just hoping he's not scum, because I don't know how I'm going to catch him if he is.
This is a very good point, but we still have his votes and any night actions he may absorb later in the game.[/b]

I don't like this post. Not sure why, though.

Pug89 · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:30 am

I don't like this post. Not sure why, though.

Could you be more specific about what you didn't like?

NabakovNabakov · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:08 pm

^^ Well, it could be that it was the third post in a row to vote Hermit.

Megatron wrote:...dude, once again, it wasn't a tantrum, what is it with you?

I'm just saying it how it is. Hell, I knew when I picked the role that it paints a huge target on my back.

Is there anybody you are suspicious of? Why?
How do you feel about the various "wagons"/singular votes that are going around?

there's only so much you can get from random wagons. No one's gotten twitchy or sputtery yet, and although there were a few real flimsy votes, I tend to have a higher threshold for flimsy votes on day 1, unless they end up getting someone lynched.

Couple of things in my notes so far, I'll go through it some time today, have to leave soon.

So you're not suspicious of

anybody

?

shaft.ed · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:59 pm

Sorry need to give this game a bit more attention.

I have a slight feeling there is scum among the three in a row wagoners of theHermit.

Pug seems the most iffy with his OMGUS vote and agreeing on the asinine Cluas is hard to read point.

Alabaska feels a bit off as he seemed to be cautious with earlier wagons, but finds it OK jumping onto this more sizeable one.

I'm a bit suspicious of armlx, but I've found I get a mildly scummy read from towmlx in Space Monkey so I'm less trusting of his read atm.

Claus · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:09 pm

FoS: Hermit

Claim Please?

Cyberbob · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:24 pm

Claus wrote:Claim Please?

What good, pray tell, would a claim do in this game?

Claus · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:48 pm

Joke

TheHermit · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:56 pm

Well, at least my post started discussion. I just wish it had been in a different direction. I don't think my vote was deserving of such a huge reaction (I'm at L-2 and I barely even know why). I agree with shaft.ed, there's something very fishy about this. My thoughts on the three jumpers:

Alabaska's theory on my intentions is stark-raving insane. I really wish I had a better word for it, but the lengths he goes to try and sell a pressure vote as a call for a lynch is completely baffling. I don't think your train of logic that transforms a pressure vote into a call for a wagon bears any semblance to real-world logic, and that you're reaching for a reason to jump on my wagon. I think this mostly because you voted for shaft.ed for very weak reasons, yet you think my "very weak" reasons are worth a fourth vote. You also conveniently ignore that Claus deliberately started a wagon on a lurker and stated his reasons as such in 230, but you feel nothing toward him. I'm highly suspicious of anyone with double-standards.

FoS: Alabaska J

But hey, at least he gave a reason, unlike armlx. I'm curious to see what his thoughts are now that this wagon has grown so large so quickly. I had a neutral read on him before, but my opinion could swing either way depending on his reaction.

Pug's vote is OMGUS ahoy. On top of that it seems the most opportunistic, but I may be thinking that just because he voted last. I think keeping my vote on him will serve as adequate illustration of my suspicions, and also because he didn't even acknowledge the question I asked him. So how about it, Pug? Have any thoughts on anyone else? I'll ask this question every day until you answer it.

At least we've stopped discussing night actions. That was a dreadfully boring read and didn't get us any closer to finding scum.