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[Farkran]

k, we shall revive wondertime i guess, but that's only going to conftown their target, not clear anyone in the lynchpool

It makes it more plausible for a second vig to exist, but it doesn't explain the dumb target choice and the failure, unless wonder specifically picked doc and protected me.

Leaving TSE alive just for a ballsy claim is bad practice imo, and by the way who do you suggest as alternative lynch?

[Brian Skies]

The person I'm voting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Leaving TSE alive just for a ballsy claim is bad practice imo, and by the way who do you suggest as alternative lynch?

Farkran LOOK AT MY HANDY CHART.

[Farkran]

I looked. Brian is always a good backup lynch if TSE is somehow town

Xtoxm i'm more skeptical of due to wagonomics. Did i already ask xtoxm what tier is his waifu? This may be relevant

[Xtoxm]

Thot tier.
cant be upgraded.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I should note, i *can* be upgraded though i still believe it doesnt do anything like last game

[Farkran]

Recapping

Claims we have:
Exploding AoE exhausted vig - confirmed
1shot vig - unconfirmed
Upgrader - unconfirmed
Resurrector - unconfirmed
Immortal day ender - unconfirmed

What we have seen:
Vanilla Townie candidate for council presidency
Town upgrader with a selection of elite bg/doc/investigative doc
Mafia upgrader/aoe doctor/candidate for council presidency
Useless mafia gambler that needs upgrades

There is a clear abundance of upgraders, i see no reason to doubt xtoxm claim, and wagonomics support him town.

There is also a clear abundance of protectives, which might explain the existence of a double town vig but not his failure unless wondertime picked doc and protected me, i cannot see any other circumstance in which i could survive being shot. I am not immortal and we already have a claimed immortal; two protective died so i doubt there are more. Even if a roleblocker exists, i really doubt scum would target TSE, and a town roleblocker would have already claimed in defense of TSE if that was the case

I find it really, really unrealistic to see both TSE and Brian telling the truth, which means xtoxm and shadowless probably are

[Shadowlesscloud]

Actually

/vote unvote

While i have my issues and mistrust with xtrom, i totally forgot the "I cant die so" and thats just not ok tbfh

which is even worse becase they are in my neighborhood and i wish they would use it more ngl

[Shadowlesscloud]

unvoting because Brian also wants Xtorm dead and thats no bueno for my feels

[Shadowlesscloud]

also 4 dead and not a single bah post

what is wrong with you all

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Brian Skies

[Brian Skies]

I'm at L-1. Test my claim, revive Wonder, and we can figure out which of TSE/Xtotm to lynch tomorrow.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or we can just lynch one of TSE/Xtoxm now. Self-votes are stupid and it looks scummy that you're trying to make us waste a day just to "prove" your claim.

[Brian Skies]

I find it really, really unrealistic to see both TSE and Brian telling the truth, which means xtoxm and shadowless probably are

I also don't understand these dichotomies here. What does Shadow's role have to do with Xtotm's?

[Brian Skies]

Or we can just lynch one of TSE/Xtoxm now. Self-votes are stupid and it looks scummy that you're trying to make us waste a day just to "prove" your claim.

Then I must be scum.

Vote me to find out.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No. Stop doing anti-town things.

[Brian Skies]

We can potentially confirm as many as all of Xtotm, Shadow, TSE, and myself in one go (and lynch the one that isnt).

So what are you waiting for Farkran?

[Farkran]

We can potentially confirm as many as all of Xtotm, Shadow, TSE, and myself in one go (and lynch the one that isnt).

So what are you waiting for Farkran?

Sorry, i'm not following your thought process. How are we going to confirm everything in one go?

You mean lynch you today to confirm immortality, wait for resurrection to confirm shadowless, confirm TSE if wondertime picked doc and healed me, and if all these claims are true we lynch xtoxm?

That's a valid option too, i guess, but i don't see the reason for so much paranoia over lynching the counterclaimed unconfirmable dumb vig instead of wasting a day - assuming you are sincere. There is no reason to townlock you or TSE even if we do this.

Shadow will still resurrect wondertime and be townlocked if this happens, otherwise he's not even scumlocked because scum could have a roleblocker, downgrader or some other shit that could prevent the resurrection to happen.

I just don't see any real reason to defend TSE atm and lynch anyone else over him, why do you?

[Amrun]

I don’t really doubt any of the claims except potentially TSE’s, I just don’t really think it says a whole lot about alignment. Except xtoxm - scum don’t need 2 upgraders.

[Farkran]

I find it really, really unrealistic to see both TSE and Brian telling the truth, which means xtoxm and shadowless probably are

I also don't understand these dichotomies here. What does Shadow's role have to do with Xtotm's?

Non-existence of 3p has been confirmed, so i don't think more than one person is lying. Therefore other people are probably sincere.

pedit: amrun, do you think scum have a resurrector among their ranks?

[Xtoxm]

i think its just brian and you need to work out the condition on which its possible to kill him, since i probably do believe the conditional immortal claim.
lynch through me and TSE first to confirm that if you must.
{norwee, amrun, adorable} are all town and should never be touched

what if the counterbalance to a town aligned reviver, is that brian is immortal while the reviver is alive?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you guys wanna babysit TSE or can we do the sensible thing and lynch him.

[Farkran]

i think its just brian and you need to work out the condition on which its possible to kill him, since i probably do believe the conditional immortal claim.
lynch through me and TSE first to confirm that if you must.
{norwee, amrun, adorable} are all town and should never be touched

what if the counterbalance to a town aligned reviver, is that brian is immortal while the reviver is alive?

Maybe. Perhaps he just needs to be killed twice because he's a 1-shot bulletproof. Perhaps he's just lying about his ability. Perhaps he's town. We can talk all day and make up any kind of theories, but why should we test him first when we can still confirm you and shadowless while lynching potential scum in TSE? Is there any benefit in testing Brian immortality today as opposed to tomorrow?

[NorwegianboyEE]

IF I WANTED TO BE A FUCKING BABYSITTER I WOULD HAVE CONTINUED MY CAREER IN EDUCATION

[Xtoxm]

we cant confirm me, i cant change target, im stuck on adorable all game now, in a master-servant contract.
she says she can't be upgraded so im functionally vanilla.
i tried my best to set up use of my role yesterday and the only person who reached out to me was scum.
i will never be confirmable so feel free to lynch me today.

after me and tse flip town you will have to start looking at the possibility that brian is scum.