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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:51 am

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Vote Count 2.1
GeneralWu (1) ~
72offsuit,

Maduisha (1) ~
GeneralWu,

Not voting (5) ~
clidd, Maduisha, OldMapleNostalgia, ceejayvinoya, JacksonVirgo

With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch


Deadline: (expired on 2020-03-04 07:38:13)


V/LA: none
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:08 am

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In post 246, Maduisha wrote:
In post 244, clidd wrote:In any other game you repeat this, your lynch will take place immediately the next day, keep that in mind. Putting him on L-1 was essential to get a better reaction. He would have to defend himself or be lynched, which would elicit an emotional response.
Explain this to me! Why would I get lynched in a different game? Is what I did scummy? If it is, would the mafia risk losing a member on day 2?

And you can still get me lynched in this one!!!!! I crave attention. I need it, come on, man...
Maduisha
, do you understand that by knowing the term
''scummy''
, you must unconsciously be able to assimilate what makes someone scummy, right ? I can perfectly theorize that your partner could have guided you to do this, considering that such a move can be interpreted as wifom. So, yes, it would be possible for mafia to risk losing a player on day 2.

However, lines like:
(But I like that you voted for me.)
And you can still get me lynched in this one!!!!! I crave attention. I need it, come on, man...
I know that, but I was bored
Give the impression that you are playing some kind of "character", while trying to sell the idea that you did not understand the repercussions of your act the day before.
The question is:
is this associated with the
green
or
red
faction ? what do you hope to achieve with such behavior ?
In post 228, Maduisha wrote:I'm very bored and I actually don't care anymore if he turns up scum or townie, or whatever I might look after this, so I'm actually hammering him.

VOTE: Phi Kappa Phi

Reason: I'm jealous of his Phi profile picture.
Hammering someone who you think might be a potential town, being of green alignment,
isn't playing against your own winning conditions
?
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:12 am

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In post 237, Maduisha wrote:Look at yourselves, you got the vanilla townie lynched. I suggest we lynch the hammerer next.

Putting people on L-1 is dangerous!
Wouldn't it be hypocritical to lynch the next individual who will hammer and ignore what you did ?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:17 am

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I will ignore your previous post because I do not care what people see me as.
In post 252, clidd wrote:
In post 237, Maduisha wrote:Look at yourselves, you got the vanilla townie lynched. I suggest we lynch the hammerer next.

Putting people on L-1 is dangerous!
Wouldn't it be hypocritical to lynch the next individual who will hammer and ignore what you did ?
My post isn't hypocritical, I was joking about lynching me (the hammerer) next (so, now).
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:32 am

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In post 251, clidd wrote:
In post 228, Maduisha wrote:I'm very bored and I actually don't care anymore if he turns up scum or townie, or whatever I might look after this, so I'm actually hammering him.

VOTE: Phi Kappa Phi

Reason: I'm jealous of his Phi profile picture.
Hammering someone who you think might be a potential town, being of green alignment,
isn't playing against your own winning conditions
?
Wait, no, I take that back, I won't ignore this bit of it.

Yes, I knew the chances of hammering town was high, and I still did it anyway. Why? Because night phase gives information out when people die, and that's more fun to play with than the random specualtion of day 1, so I decided to make it more
fun
by ending day 1. I mean, I found PKP suspicious, but that was not the reason why I voted the way I did. Masons are the most boring out of all town related roles, I have to say, so I'm slightly disappointed with what we found out with the night kill, but now people have actual reasons to suspect others
and
there's more tension when voting because there are two townies down.

Isn't it electrifying?
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:48 am

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Hum, ok. You are a variation of sociopath, enjoying the game in your own way. Can I see it that way ?
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:06 am

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I just found the discussion to be stale and wanted to be over with day 1 shenanigans as soon as possible. It is now more important for people to decide who to vote on now, since a wrong lynching guarantees two townie deaths again when the night falls due to the mason setup the rng gave us.

I don't know if my impatience came from not being used to super long first days, or childish nature. You can call me sociopath if you like, but you just hurt my feelings!
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:37 am

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It would have been better if you let Kappa claim first
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:39 am

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@genwu nothing to say about offsuit?
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:01 am

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I will ignore your previous post because I do not care what people see me as
You can call me sociopath if you like, but you just hurt my feelings!
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:04 am

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The first post was about people town/scum-reading me, the second post was a joke. I probably should abstain from joking... but it's hard...
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:08 am

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Just to be clear:
I'm not voting on you because I believe in other possibilities that would consider your innocence. But, I confess that you are leaving me in a difficult position to judge.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:21 am

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That is fine. You have to consider all possibilities, and that's a mindset I will always welcome.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:06 am

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Now, changing the subject: who is the second
mason
among us ?

72offsuit
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JacksonVirgo (SE)

At this point, the chance of fake claims has passed. There is no point in continuing to keep your identity hidden.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:34 am

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So just some quick thoughts from me, while I have the time in between midterms. Sorry, I won't be able to format well because this is off my phone.

Maduisha:
Phi was giving off scum vibes to me, mainly because he ignored people calling him out for his overall strange behavior to the game. With that said, Madu hammered WAY too early on Phi, AND her reasoning as to hammering him is just complete garbage. Being bored with the game does not justify hammering someone that hasn't had a chance to respond at L-1. She took the opportunity to move on to the next day and ran with it. Bad hammers are a thing, but this was an ABSOLUTE SCUM PLAY in my eyes. VOTE: Maduisha
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:37 am

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OS:
It was obvious to me that he was town. I am sure many people didn't like his entry to the game; however, as pointed out by Clidd, it was consistent with his other games. Him being open on playing his alt is also indicative of having nothing to hide. If he was scum, hiding his alt may have subconsciously played into his behavior. I don't see how people thought he was LOCK-scum at all.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:43 am

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Clidd:
You wrote in your wall that it was strange that I wanted to maintain neutrality while still pointing out someone's strange behavior. I mostly agree, but I can attribute that to getting a read on how the meta of the game itself would play out. So I'll start pushing. How can you conclude that the mafia team is not consisted of two newbies? They just need to recognize that OS was the best player in this game, which is something that you acknowledged in your wall. Is it too far of a jump for mafia newbies to recognize that he is a good kill when you literally told them that it was? You point this out again at the start of the day that, why are you adamant in letting people know that OS was lock-town in your eyes? I don’t like this behavior, fos on you
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:08 am

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Mason dying is unfortunate but at least confirms the setup
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 237, Maduisha wrote:Look at yourselves, you got the vanilla townie lynched. I suggest we lynch the hammerer next.

Putting people on L-1 is dangerous!
Okay
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:12 am

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In post 238, Maduisha wrote:I'm a bit pissed that I only suspected 2 people and they both turned out green, I suck at this game more than I remembered. Anyway, we now have more info about our role layout... which is not good...

But isn't it exciting?!
If scum is half decent it's rare they get lynched D1 what are you on
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:17 am

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In post 263, clidd wrote:Now, changing the subject: who is the second
mason
among us ?

72offsuit
Maduisha
GeneralWu
OldMapleNostalgia
ceejayvinoya (SE)
JacksonVirgo (SE)

At this point, the chance of fake claims has passed. There is no point in continuing to keep your identity hidden.
We shouldn't get them to claim, it'd be +ev to keep them hidden
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:19 am

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In post 264, OldMapleNostalgia wrote:So just some quick thoughts from me, while I have the time in between midterms. Sorry, I won't be able to format well because this is off my phone.

Maduisha:
Phi was giving off scum vibes to me, mainly because he ignored people calling him out for his overall strange behavior to the game. With that said, Madu hammered WAY too early on Phi, AND her reasoning as to hammering him is just complete garbage. Being bored with the game does not justify hammering someone that hasn't had a chance to respond at L-1. She took the opportunity to move on to the next day and ran with it. Bad hammers are a thing, but this was an ABSOLUTE SCUM PLAY in my eyes. VOTE: Maduisha
I don't remember presenting the explanation behind my actions as a justification, nor do I remember hiding the fact that I wanted to move on to the next day. I did what I wanted, because people allowed me to, by giving someone a fourth vote when they hadn't even reacted to the third one. But it's fun that you wanted to paint it in that light, this is the kind of stuff I wanted to see.

VOTE: OldMappleNostalgia

You're a fun guy.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:20 am

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Mae's confidence and them sticking to their logic screams cocky town to me
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:20 am

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In post 266, OldMapleNostalgia wrote:Clidd:
You wrote in your wall that it was strange that I wanted to maintain neutrality while still pointing out someone's strange behavior. I mostly agree, but I can attribute that to getting a read on how the meta of the game itself would play out. So I'll start pushing. How can you conclude that the mafia team is not consisted of two newbies? They just need to recognize that OS was the best player in this game, which is something that you acknowledged in your wall. Is it too far of a jump for mafia newbies to recognize that he is a good kill when you literally told them that it was? You point this out again at the start of the day that, why are you adamant in letting people know that OS was lock-town in your eyes? I don’t like this behavior, fos on you
Can you simplify your reasoning ? I didn't understand what you meant.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:24 am

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In post 270, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 263, clidd wrote:Now, changing the subject: who is the second
mason
among us ?

72offsuit
Maduisha
GeneralWu
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ceejayvinoya (SE)
JacksonVirgo (SE)

At this point, the chance of fake claims has passed. There is no point in continuing to keep your identity hidden.
We shouldn't get them to claim, it'd be +ev to keep them hidden
You understand that he can be killed during the night, correct ? it would be interesting to claim now, while this scenario has not occurred. Considering that they have no night action, the effectiveness of the role with the dead partner is null. Now, with the revelation, it would help PoE by dropping it from the lynch pool for today.
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