Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[Hectic]

VoteCount 1.9

RVS Award for

Fair Randomness

goes to...

Vote: Usernamenotincluded

Um, i that's the forum code i learned from another forum, i hope that bolds alright. Points for trying?
Yeah, i don't have a random number generator, so i just punched random buttons in the calculator you can get off the start menu and used the last digit. Since there's 9 people, capricious was both 9 and 0....

Vote: popsofctown

for his biased, shameful, indignant voting system

crap... i realized right after i posted it... Capricious is gonna vote me. But you other 8 got the good end of the stick so you won't vote for me right?
Heh, i'm happy i got my voting right.

CheekyTeeky [3]

- Cat Scratch Fever, Yshtola Rhul, woodchuck321

Homura [2]

- Klick, Auro

TrueSoulEnergy [1]

- Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Alduskkel [1]

- Miss Lynch

Egix [1]

- Alduskkel

Not Voting [2]

- popsofctown, Homura

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

[Egix96]

Y'shtola

Her questioning of things feels genuine and I empathise with her reading people based on feels, as is shown in 380.

Klick

I kinda wish that 51 wasn't a "troll response" because I actually kinda agree with it.
104 - I find it a little bit odd that Klick seemed openly indifferent towards the Teeky wagon although TSE, whom Klick was voting at the time, was on there. I feel as though Klick would be more opposed to the wagon in that case.

Auro

144 - I don't get what's -worthy about that.
277 - "I want to alt-hunt Rhul." - I presume this is because you believe it will help you read her? Otherwise I'm not seeing the point.

TSE

145 -> 146 - My immediate feeling was that this was scummy (sort of like an "argh damn I shouldn't have said that" response) but upon thinking about it a bit more carefully... is it really a scum's immediate thought to say "yes that's exactly what I'm doing" when they see someone accusing them of doing something scummy? I also kinda feel like the same kind of logic applies to 151.
185 - You seem to be failing to realise that saying someone is a VT narrows down the possibilities of who could be mason. It's hunting them by PoE.

[Auro]

144: Was joke? Fake sadness?
277: Curiosity?

Hmm Egix did you roll scum *again*?

[Yshtola Rhul]

We should consider consolidating on wagons more.

Here, allow me to assist.

VOTE: Homura

[Chemist1422]

Egix, who do you scumread?

Auro, are you buddying me?

pedit: can I get in on this support group

No because I'm the capricious Duchess and I don't personally scumread your towntone.

CheekyTeeky is out too because I only scumread her towntactics.

Chemist1422 is invited to submit an application.

fun fact recently I’ve been getting scumread for having towny entrances

[Hectic]

Homura has requested replacement.

[Hectic]

Sujimichi replaces Homura!

[Sujimichi]

Hey everyone! I will be catching up shortly, but please let me know if you think there is anything important for me to review.

[Yshtola Rhul]

Hey everyone! I will be catching up shortly, but please let me know if you think there is anything important for me to review.

Hello! My name is Y'shtola Rhul, and you may ask if you require assistance or a second opinion.

Please mind the speedbumps.

[Sujimichi]

Hey everyone! I will be catching up shortly, but please let me know if you think there is anything important for me to review.

Hello! My name is Y'shtola Rhul, and you may ask if you require assistance or a second opinion.

Please mind the speedbumps.

Thank you. Could you please give me your opinion on Auro, Klick, and Alduskkel so far. I believe you have commented briefly on Auro, so if you prefer I would appreciate your opinions on just Klick and Alduskkel.

[Sujimichi]

Y'shtola
Her questioning of things feels genuine and I empathise with her reading people based on feels, as is shown in 380.

Would you please point out what questioning of Yshtola Rhul's you find to be genuine?

[Klick]

I'm not particularly interested in pursuing any of Yshtola/TSE/Auro/Cheeky today.

VOTE: Homura

What did you think of Cheeky's read on you?

It reads genuine to me and she's probably town for it. I'm aware I'm slowrolling a little with my thoughts in this game, and that's by choice. My approach to this game is (pretty transparently) going to be giving broad strokes of my townreads and focused pushes. So what she's picking up on is valid, but not a scumtell.

[Sujimichi]

Klick, I was going to ask you this in a little bit, but since you have quoted the post I was going to reference I will do so now. Could you explain why, at the point of 181, you were not interested in pursuing Yshtola Rhul, TrueSoulEnergy, Auro, or CheekyTeeky? Particularly, I am curious as to Yshtola Rhul and Auro.

[Auro]

Before questions, I'd like to hear your opinions on reading the game first.

[Sujimichi]

Apologies, but I feel as though that may impact the answers to my questions so I would like to defer answering at this moment. I will provide that popsofctown is a fairly confident town read due to in-game reasons that I will share following my questions.

[Klick]

Finally, I think it's pretty scummy that of the players in the game right now, the only two you can really list as possibly scummy are Homura and me. Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.

Up until this post the only scumread you've expressed is Alduskkel.



PEdit: Hello!
I'm not interested in those four today for a combination of reading them as town and liking how they're influencing the gamestate.
I got pretty strong town vibes off of Yshtola's Post 92 and like where she's going with things in general. With Auro I don't really have anything specific off the top of my head, but I feel like he's pushing this game in the right direction. If he keeps doing what he's doing I feel like it will benefit town in the long run, even if he winds up having a scum Role PM.

[Sujimichi]

Thank you.

[Yshtola Rhul]

Hey everyone! I will be catching up shortly, but please let me know if you think there is anything important for me to review.

Hello! My name is Y'shtola Rhul, and you may ask if you require assistance or a second opinion.

Please mind the speedbumps.

Thank you. Could you please give me your opinion on Auro, Klick, and Alduskkel so far. I believe you have commented briefly on Auro, so if you prefer I would appreciate your opinions on just Klick and Alduskkel.

Klick's aether is muddled, unsure. If I had to put a name to what I see within him, it would be a lamp that has nearly burnt out. It aligns towards the light from my limited view, but the specifics are quite beyond me as of right now.

Alduskkel burns brighter, like a flame rising on a cold night. He's comfortably an ally to mine eyes.

[Sujimichi]

Thank you. What is it specifically about Alduskkel so far that makes him a town read for you?

[Yshtola Rhul]

Thank you. What is it specifically about Alduskkel so far that makes him a town read for you?

His demeanor and how much effort he has been putting towards multiple slots in the game.

[Klick]

I find myself skimming over most of Egix's posts without being able to commit much critical thinking to them. I've found in the past that that slot is scum >rand for me.

[Klick]

<.<
>.>
Is it bad that I want to scumread you Auro?

If you'll forgive my personal biases... no, not at all.

VOTE: Homura
I think this and Miss Lynch both have decent chances of being scum.

Chemist, your accusation of TSE is unfair, he was pressed for reasoning and *then* said he thought I was VT over scum because of the "slip". I don't see why town shouldn't distinguish between Masons and VTs in their sorting process. I feel like you made up a reason to sit on TSE's wagon.

I’d feel this way too but Let’s just say me and Chemist have “History”

He honestly would just place a vote on me for any reason just for the sack of getting rid of me.

If someone said “PL TSE”
He would join that vote.

Let me guess, you once dunked on him so hard it made him never want to trust you again?

And yet I'm finding your tone more stiff.

*shrug* I think my tone's always like this Anything else that makes you want to scumread me?

Idk, I remember you once saying that people find your tone to be more "frozen" when you're scum. Old news?

I'm townreading a lot of the active posters, primarily.
Homura is coasting on the TSE attack.
Miss Lynch's opening posts are scummy, she "skims" the game and votes Aldusskel without any explanation.

My play might not match your expectations of my townplay, by the way - I'm a lot less serious about this game

What's scummy about that? Solid reasoning for Alk has already been given, I don't like how you're trying to frame "skimming the game" as something scummy to do.

Does using the tiger skin really make it so bad such that

seven pages

is an amount you don't have time to read at normal speed? Afaict the issue here is that people are expecting you to have had no need to just skim it all.

@Pops: Not quoting your post because it would be a pain to trim down on this device, but I'm curious as to how you interpreted my "in a nutshell" comment. What I meant is that I have historically had a high rate of randing scum in Open games.

Like I'm not getting a thing from this.

[Sujimichi]

I find myself skimming over most of Egix's posts without being able to commit much critical thinking to them. I've found in the past that that slot is scum >rand for me.

He indicated that he has a high rate of receiving a scum role in 246.

[Klick]

Pops I don't see a clear read on Auro from you?

I read through pops' catchup like five times trying to understand his progression on Auro, because there was a lot of talk about the read without any clear conclusion. But then I couldn't work out if that meant anything so I decided to just move on and read his other posts.

[Klick]

I think the Alduskel vs. Miss Lynch interaction has an SvT look and I hope soberpops can sort which side when she is done chastising drunkpops's staying up late

This is about where I land in parsing that conversation, though I'd throw Auro in as well and say there was one scum keeping that interaction going. The Miss Lynch meta conversation went on for entirely too long with very little benefit and I feel like one person involved was intentionally keeping it going. On the surface of it, Miss Lynch come off as anti-town for going on about why she doesn't want to explain her reads for way too long - but then that doesn't necessarily mean she's scum there. Auro is antagonistic towards her in a way that seems uncharacteristic and also not very helpful at all. Looking at it, I think Aldus comes off the best of the three: he goes in trying to get info from ML, quickly realises that it's not working, and mostly stops responding/attempts to deescalate.

So I guess I'd peg ML/Auro as the likely SvT, not ML/Aldus.