Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:57 am

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In post 596, popsofctown wrote:On that note, Alduskkel did something that made me want to
Could you explain what that was?
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:04 am

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VoteCount 1.11


RVS Award for
Cunning Codebreaker
goes to...
In post 10, Egix96 wrote:
In post 9, Auro wrote:You can trust me this time, I swearrr.
Oh really now? :shifty:

But wait, I've just realised something:
Former -> Farmer -> Framer

:eek:
VOTE: Formerfish
Got one of 'em already ;)
Sujimichi [3]
- Klick, Auro, Yshtola Rhul
CheekyTeeky [2]
- Cat Scratch Fever, woodchuck321
Alduskkel [2]
- Miss Lynch, Sujimichi
TrueSoulEnergy [1]
- Chemist1422
Auro [1]
- Egix96
woodchuck [1]
- CheekyTeeky
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- TrueSoulEnergy
Egix [1]
- Alduskkel

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- popsofctown

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:
(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:05 am

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Are you okay, Hectic? You're looking a little excited.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:06 am

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As an extra note, the opening post isn't fully updated on replacements.

Thank you!

Thanks, fixed!
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:07 am

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I kind of would rather not answer because it might be kind of associative.

It's not lock and key, I still might revisit the slot, and I promise to be transparent on everything else that ends up on the scales of justice. I just, don't feel as confident right this second.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:08 am

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:10 am

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In post 604, popsofctown wrote:I kind of would rather not answer because it might be kind of associative.

It's not lock and key, I still might revisit the slot, and I promise to be transparent on everything else that ends up on the scales of justice. I just, don't feel as confident right this second.
Ok. Thank you.

Between Egix96 and Auro, who do you think is most likely Mafia.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:15 am

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So you disagree with my post about your Asterisk case?
Can you explain your scumread on me?
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:16 am

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I would say Auro is more likely to be mafia. But I'm not highly confident. If Hectic told me I needed to vote scum in my next post or I lose the game I would probably pick woodchuck but I've been letting that slot skate on the thinking that starting a nightless off with a lurker lynch isn't great for the dayplay.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:17 am

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Wait Miss Lynch did you watch Fringe

that show has a schtick about calling someone whose name starts with an "A" a different name every time
I just now made the connection because Asterisk is one of the botched names that was used.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:19 am

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Alabama's name is just hard to remember lol. Aldusskel?
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:20 am

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Pops, this "if I had to vote scum in my next post" thing - have you said this as town before?
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:21 am

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His name is Aten, it's easy to remember because that's the god of the sun and that's his avatar
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:22 am

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In post 607, Auro wrote:So you disagree with my post about your Asterisk case?
Can you explain your scumread on me?
I do disagree with your explanation (though I conceded that Alduskkel later explained his statement on Miss Lynch, I do not find that to be genuine), and I do not see what you mean by "holistically town." I think you are Mafia because of your explanation for a Homura lynch (as I am aware of her alignment) being weak, as previously stated. I do not feel that your disliking my deference for providing "fresh thoughts" comes from a genuine place, especially since it was rationally explained and followed through. I do not like that I had to prompt you for follow-up on Alduskkel despite your active interaction with the thread. I also disagree with your reads on other players.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:24 am

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pls no self meta

I have no idea how many times I've said that as town nor said it as scum

I see other players use the phrase lots, they just say "gun to head" which is equivalent.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:27 am

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Oh my.

>Your being aware of Homura's alignment shouldn't have a bearing on the weakness of the case
>Homura having an ISO of three posts coasting on one singular angle is objectively scummy, and wasn't weak reasoning at that point of time to build a wagon
>A rational explanation for not providing fresh thoughts as town doesn't suffice when it's beneficial for scum to do so
>I forgot about the Abraham case, what's the scum motivation when I can make something up as scum anyway? This is not a possibility you considered?
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:28 am

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11195423, as town, similarly evoking the concept of immediacy that contrasts with the amount of immediacy I actually want. Vaguely remembered this and decided to search "dayvig"

There were also instances of me using the concept as scum. I think it's NAI for me.
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:29 am

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In post 614, popsofctown wrote:pls no self meta
It's easier than me searching it up myself, if you simply quote instances. This would help me understand that such a phrase isn't a scumtell for you, thus helping me form a more accurate read; "self meta is awful" doesn't apply here.

If you don't recall, that's cool!
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:31 am

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In post 615, Auro wrote:Oh my.

>Your being aware of Homura's alignment shouldn't have a bearing on the weakness of the case
>Homura having an ISO of three posts coasting on one singular angle is objectively scummy, and wasn't weak reasoning at that point of time to build a wagon
>A rational explanation for not providing fresh thoughts as town doesn't suffice when it's beneficial for scum to do so
>I forgot about the Abraham case, what's the scum motivation when I can make something up as scum anyway? This is not a possibility you considered?
You asked me why I think you are Mafia, and I provided all of the reasons why I do. I do not expect you to agree with them and, as you said previously, anything can be explained away, Auro.

To push a bit further for understanding, why do you assign "coasting" to Homura considering that she did not return to the game? You have no idea as to the reasons why so there is no rational basis to do so.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:32 am

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@Pops you were explicitly asked that question in your citation, so the context differs from here - where you offered it unprompted to a question of who's more likely mafia

I'll just mark this for a later look if I have the energy to do so
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:33 am

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@Suji: she returned to the thread to make her second and third posts respectively. Those were coast posts. She could've posted something else in #2 and #3 of her ISO.

I find the rep out only weakly scum indicative, exactly because there could be a number of other reasons for doing so.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:35 am

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In post 618, Sujimichi wrote:I do not expect you to agree with them and, as you said previously, anything can be explained away, Auro.
Yes, but not all disagreements boil down to subjective differences in opinion. :P
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:36 am

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In post 609, popsofctown wrote:Wait Miss Lynch did you watch Fringe

that show has a schtick about calling someone whose name starts with an "A" a different name every time
I just now made the connection because Asterisk is one of the botched names that was used.
Not Fringe but there is a relatively popular show (or maybe a couple) that use this gimmick that I was semi-referencing.

Also I play Legends of Runeterra as well.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:36 am

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In post 620, Auro wrote:@Suji: she returned to the thread to make her second and third posts respectively. Those were coast posts. She could've posted something else in #2 and #3 of her ISO.

I find the rep out only weakly scum indicative, exactly because there could be a number of other reasons for doing so.
I do not see anything about her second and third posts that are "coasting." I do see that they were questions with regard to you.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:37 am

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I appreciate the dialogue, Auro. I think that it has reached the end of its productiveness at this point, so I will let others give their thoughts.
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