Newbie 1988 | Octopus | Over

[Ph0enix]

Pagetop.

[Ph0enix]

Also hi, Cheeky.

Hiya! What game did we play in? I have an old person's memory.

This one.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.02

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

LunarRest

(2): Phi Kappa Phi, TrueSoulEnergy

Phi Kappa Phi

(2): Tapiocaphobe, Titus

Titus

(1): CheekyTeeky

Tapiocaphobe

(1): Ph0enix

Not Voting

(3): LunarRest, QuantumQuasar, APetRock

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-07 22:45:00).

Mod notes:

APetRock is being replaced for not confirming in time. If they confirm before I find a replacement they can stay. QuantumQuasar has (expired on 2020-02-28 17:30:19) to confirm before I start looking for a replacement.[/area]

[Titus]

Never had tapioca before. Is it any good?

VOTE: Phi

Gut.

Strong enough gut ping for you to move off the rvs wagon prior to reaction from Tapi. Hmm.

Yup. Gut it usually a weak indicator but weak indicator is better than a random vote.

[Titus]

Hello everyone. 2 votes on me already!

Dang your more popular then me this game...

I only hope a mafioso would end up more popular than I am.

“Mafioso”?

Hmm.
There is Mafia Goon and a Mafia PR or Mafia Goon.

You said Mafioso which means two things.

Your Town who made a sorta Town slip like this.
Or
Your mafia who unintentionally revealed the setup to be 2 Mafia Goons.

This is artificial.

[Titus]

Okay, I read what I had missed.

Titus changing her vote is NAI.
LunarRest using the word "mafioso" in that one post is NAI as well.

@Titus: What's your opinion on the reaction some people have to your change of vote?

I'm ok tentatively placing you as town based on the top post.

The discussion around me and my vote change is awkward and stilted. A few slots say the same thing and get nowhere but NAI, essentially repeating what came before.

What's absent is more telling. Everyone wants to know why my gut was strong enough, yet no one looked at Phi's behavior. It's not enough to make a strong case out of, but it's still interesting. Phil comes across artificial and fake in the opening sequence.

Mod: I voted Phi not Phoenix.

Fixed, thank you --P

[Ph0enix]

Phil comes across artificial and fake in the opening sequence.

I mean, given that your statement is based on 2 random filler RVS posts with no substance to them, as one could expect from very early posts, of course, isn't it a little far-fetched to say that?

[Titus]

Phil comes across artificial and fake in the opening sequence.

I mean, given that your statement is based on 2 random filler RVS posts with no substance to them, as one could expect from very early posts, of course, isn't it a little far-fetched to say that?

No. It's farfetched to lock him as scum based off of that. To feel the ignorance of the wagon and discussion of food is an artificial distraction is not. Scum love to distract. It's a good place to start none the less. Plus, the sooner we escape RVS the better.

[Tapiocaphobe]

TSE is v townie, not liking lunar's posts

Why?

the way TSE approached my post screamed townie to me + I was already disliking that mafioso post when they pushed it
lunar's mafioso post and how they approached the idea of s/s; i think after their last two posts they're pretty solidly null for me though, maybe a little itsy bitsy townie
these are very early reads so they'll probably change but this is where my head is at

Okay, I read what I had missed.

Titus changing her vote is NAI.
LunarRest using the word "mafioso" in that one post is NAI as well.

@Titus: What's your opinion on the reaction some people have to your change of vote?

I'm ok tentatively placing you as town based on the top post.

The discussion around me and my vote change is awkward and stilted. A few slots say the same thing and get nowhere but NAI, essentially repeating what came before.

What's absent is more telling. Everyone wants to know why my gut was strong enough, yet no one looked at Phi's behavior. It's not enough to make a strong case out of, but it's still interesting. Phil comes across artificial and fake in the opening sequence.

Mod: I voted Phi not Phoenix.

Fixed, thank you --P

what were people saying that's the same besides 'it's null'?
only cheeky mentioned the gut ping thing
I would like phi to come and speak, which is why I'm still voting for them, but I think most people would rather focus on the actual content that's been generated
like, I see wym with that phi post, but it's one rvs post, it's not exactly a lot to look

at

yeah, there were better ways for her to leave the wagon if she wanted to avoid suspicion on me

I like this.

VOTE: Titus

this is a weird basis to vote titus on

Phil comes across artificial and fake in the opening sequence.

I mean, given that your statement is based on 2 random filler RVS posts with no substance to them, as one could expect from very early posts, of course, isn't it a little far-fetched to say that?

No. It's farfetched to lock him as scum based off of that. To feel the ignorance of the wagon and discussion of food is an artificial distraction is not. Scum love to distract. It's a good place to start none the less. Plus, the sooner we escape RVS the better.

liking this post

[Ph0enix]

No. It's farfetched to lock him as scum based off of that. To feel the ignorance of the wagon and discussion of food is an artificial distraction is not. Scum love to distract. It's a good place to start none the less. Plus, the sooner we escape RVS the better.

Fair, I suppose.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why would Titus even vote for Topi if she was mafia with him and then leave the wagon looking as suspicious as she does? A SE mafia wouldn't be doing that.I don't think Titus voting for Phi has to do with trying to get off the Topi wagon. She probably genuinely has a gut feeling that Phi is scum. But then again a SE town wouldn't be doing something which makes him look like a Mafia like this either. Titus isn't a definite mafia but isn't definite town either

I can see where you're coming from. I never assumed that Top/Titus were SvS just that I found it odd that as an SE Titus left the lead wagon before Top even reacted.

It looks like she just had a stronger read elsewhere but often when an RVS wagon grows the people who jump off are the most interesting. In this scenario it's more likely that Top is town and Titus is scum knowing Top's alignment. It's still early but I too am following my gut.

[CheekyTeeky]

this is a weird basis to vote titus on

I think you're going to find a lot of what I do weird, try to see beyond the surface of people's words and look for the intent. Votes can be used as tools for sorting prior to an actual lynch. Although the effectiveness is reduced once you spell it out.

[Plotinus]

Karnage replaces APetRock! Please welcome him!

[Karnage]

gimme a bit and I'll get caught up

[Karnage]

I mean I don't really have any reactions other than 'it's weird titus started my wagon then immediately left it' but i'm getting a nullread from that

I don't like you answering a question for Titus. I don't like how it's weird but its a null read.

yeah, there were better ways for her to leave the wagon if she wanted to avoid suspicion on me

Why should Titus be concerned with avoiding suspicion on YOU?

the way TSE approached my post screamed townie to me + I was already disliking that mafioso post when they pushed it
lunar's mafioso post and how they approached the idea of s/s; i think after their last two posts they're pretty solidly null for me though, maybe a little itsy bitsy townie
these are very early reads so they'll probably change but this is where my head is at

You disliked the "mafioso" post but not enough to move your RVS vote.

what were people saying that's the same besides 'it's null'?
only cheeky mentioned the gut ping thing
I would like phi to come and speak, which is why I'm still voting for them, but I think most people would rather focus on the actual content that's been generated
like, I see wym with that phi post, but it's one rvs post, it's not exactly a lot to look

at

I think you are leaving your vote on Phi as a backdoor to voting with Titus

this is a weird basis to vote titus on

Buddying up to Titus

liking this post

More buddying up to Titus

VOTE: tap

[Ph0enix]

I mean I don't really have any reactions other than 'it's weird titus started my wagon then immediately left it' but i'm getting a nullread from that

I don't like you answering a question for Titus. I don't like how it's weird but its a null read.

this is a weird basis to vote titus on

Buddying up to Titus

liking this post

More buddying up to Titus

VOTE: tap

With the first quote I can see how this can be seen as buddying, it does look like Tapio defending her in a way.

As for the next two, however, I don't think not liking a vote against someone or liking someone's post equals buddying (necessarily).

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I could be wrong but I think Karnage Scum = Ph0enix Town

[TrueSoulEnergy]

They are voting the same person and Ph0’s response to Karnage didn’t feel like scum theatre.

[Karnage]

I could be wrong but I think Karnage Scum = Ph0enix Town

They are voting the same person and Ph0’s response to Karnage didn’t feel like scum theatre.

I'm not following your logic

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I could be wrong but I think Karnage Scum = Ph0enix Town

They are voting the same person and Ph0’s response to Karnage didn’t feel like scum theatre.

I'm not following your logic

What don’t you understand?

[Karnage]

What don’t you understand?

I don't understand why, if you think I'm scum, you haven't moved your vote

[TrueSoulEnergy]

What don’t you understand?

I don't understand why, if you think I'm scum, you haven't moved your vote

When did I say you were scum?

This brings me back to what don’t you understand?

[Titus]

How is this misunderstanding happening with a player who has a join date older than mine unless it is a perspective slip? I'm not sure on this and I kinda want backup.

[Karnage]

When did I say you were scum?

This brings me back to what don’t you understand?

I thought 68 implied you were scum reading me but I guess I was wrong

How is this misunderstanding happening with a player who has a join date older than mine unless it is a perspective slip? I'm not sure on this and I kinda want backup.

This post brought a lot to the table, thanks /s

[TrueSoulEnergy]

When did I say you were scum?

This brings me back to what don’t you understand?

I thought 68 implied you were scum reading me but I guess I was wrong

How is this misunderstanding happening with a player who has a join date older than mine unless it is a perspective slip? I'm not sure on this and I kinda want backup.

This post brought a lot to the table, thanks /s

All Good.
You understand what I was saying now right?