Mini Normal 2114: Game Over

[Flavor Leaf]

Like if Insomnia is town, go ahead and lynch me, then lynch Auro in 3p because that’s the outlier

[Looker]

At this point, I don't even care about winning; I just want to kill bob because he's worthless.

[Auro]

If it's not Bob or sausa, bravo to scum for keeping them alive. You did a good job of killing all the good players. We have a self-voting fuzzy, a non-reading rex, and a bob who only posts in grammatically incorrect and misspelled rhetorical questions. Talk about good aim with a sniper rifle.

Looker, that's the point of being scum, keep the best mislynches open. I find "bad town" towards endgame all the time.

I recently played this White Flag game. On the day before LyLo, there was a slot that was purely tunneling me and doing nothing else. The slot *refused* to re-evaluate at all, because they were "100%" on me being scum, and didn't do jack shit apart from calling me scum in a number of ways.

Scum tried to get that slot lynched, so they could set me up for LyLo. I not only had to push against their lynch, I actually offered -my own lynch- over theirs so my scumread could get lynched in LyLo.

Playing to mislynch "bad town" is exactly what scum set you up to do and is exactly what assists them in their wincon.

Besides all this, I think Bob is trying, at the very least. You should try looking at intent, rather than the grammatical construction.

Whatever equity he has is *far* outweighed by Insomnia's scum equity - who's giving his best to create a winning situation for himself. He's absolutely the correct and likely game winning lynch today. If we're wrong about that, sure; we can go Bob tomorrow.

[SausasaurusRex]

VOTE: Insomnia

I am sorry about not posting much. I used to be able to post more, but my school updated their web filter, and now I can’t even read the game for about 9 hours straight.

[insomnia]

me not self-voting clears me

Like if Insomnia is town, go ahead and lynch me, then lynch Auro in 3p because that’s the outlier

remember this though. I honestly could care less if FL died, it's his fault for not town reading me here. ain't no complaints. he lynched a town leader and now lynches obvtown, he's either scum or just really bad slot to solve F3 with.

town will regret waking up to FL in F3 if you don't lynch him tomorrow.

[insomnia]

because you'll remember this day phase with me shouting at him and you're gonna think I was right when maybe I wasn't and he was just throwing.

[Auro]

UNVOTE:
FL, thoughts?

[bob3141]

At this point, I don't even care about winning; I just want to kill bob because he's worthless.

how?

Was it worthless me pushing pine. Are you sayign i wasnt an essential part of that lynch?

at the moment im feeling the last scum is fuzzy based on the end of day vote counts. He keeps making big case of teh two scum lynches but dismisses the ank lynch. Had 3 players in poe for scum on the gjt wagon. but out of insomnia, auro and pine losts. He went after auro first. That is a choice and choices have meaning.

[bob3141]

I'm not quite that comfortable with dismissing him as a complete fucking idiot.

It’s different than this, i feel his head’s just not in the game.

His thought process doesn’t come from scum trying to win the game.

I find it hard to get into games when it starts as lurk fest and ends with tons of replacements. Its hard to start caring about something that other just arnt taking serously.

[Looker]

Then vote Fuzzy. You're a liar. You don't think anyone's scum because

you're

the last scum.

[bob3141]

If you look at any of my scum games you know im not afraid to vote. The only reason i might dealy a vote is if im after a perfect game where i get 100% lynch accuracy. Best so far has been 2 scum lynches to 1 one mislynch. And would have been 3 to 1. If i hadnt got alittle impatient and hammered the guy i though was town. But i was sure scum egix would be hammered quickly the next day. He wasnt it still took 7 days.

Since then ive learnt to be patient and take my time.

[bob3141]

The only game 2 games i had bad ratio. Was one large that i simply couldnt read as my largest town game had been 13. And it was 21 player game.

The other i hammered a player as i was little annoyed about his lurking. The 21 player game may have left me a little intolerant to lurkers. that was 1 to 2. would have had 2 scum lynches that game but flav was hammered before i could join the next day

[bob3141]

When i decide to vote for some i first send a line of questioning and then check if i still feel its right. If a player doesnt realy get back quick. Then it does drag out a bit as i like to hear people out.

[Looker]

You're in secondary school, aren't you

[bob3141]

I’m willing to proxy my vote to FL at this point. I really am present.

VOTE: Invisibility

I feel like Auro is stalling - he’s too confident/easygoing. If I replaced into a slot that was about to be lynched, I’d be either manic or resigned. Instead, he gave an immediate “solve,” then begged for time. That suggests a partner giving him targets. He knows that all he has to do is lay low until the pressure dies down, because Towns are fickle

Bob

So fmpov that means check for Insomnia town and the exact solve of Bob+pine.
Sure, I'll ISO you and give thoughts - but you'll have to wait, 2am for me and I need to sleep. See ya.

Auro, if you have me in any type of solve, you’re scum.

Quick little tip.

I really, really dislike this kind of voter intimidation, and it shakes my read on FL. I’m no longer comfortable blithely following his vote

UNVOTE:

I need to re-evaluate

I'm here, but have been having difficulty finding time. I hadn't realized it had been that long. I'm trying, but if the mods wish to invoke that clause I understand.

FWIW, I'm thinking the best option is to revote Auro, despite my misgivings about Flavor Leaf. Auro's throwing out all kinds of shit and seeing what sticks. I mean, the post right above is a great example. Auro has hard scumreads on like...a third of the playerlist right now. Does not compute. I get the impulse for "anyone but me," but Town would be exercising some logic or procedure in that pursuit.

VOTE: Auro

Unless Pine was bussing, this is Pine killing off Auro/Invisibility. He decided to proxy sheep me into Invisibility, didn’t like what I said in regards to calling Auro scum, but then voted Auro, so I’m not saying this is out of the possibility, but I think it’s more likely, Pine was adding fuel to this fire instead of bussing.

Keep in mind, Pine had 13 posts.

Why i think its fuzzy. Not long after pine revoted fuzzy revoted. Feels to me like the two were making one last push to avoid pine beign lynched. They all moved away from auro when it was at l-1 but wasnt being hammered. But as soon as pine is threatened with being lycnhed. They both jump back on.

Its like the ank lycnh were fuzzy unvoted claiming he felt she was bit town but jumped back on once the wagon rebuilt. Where did that slight town read go.
Which is somethign i feel town doesnt do

In the last game i finished. I was slightly town reading kerset after pushing him that day. I did didnt join the wagon of a player i slightly town read.


There certainly is the possibility that pine weak revote of auro was a feint. He never gave reason for unvoting auro and the pressure did shift to other players before it settled rightly on pine. But i feel it was act of self preservation. As you and me had already declared for pine. Looker wanted no one but fuzzy. auro would never vote for himself if town.

And rex at that point had said its his vote would be on pine or titus.

So although thee woudl be atmost 4 other votes for auro. Being insomnia, fuzzy , pine and titus. Thye must of being hoping one of the other 5 changed their mind

[bob3141]

oh and in mole game when i voted luv i migth of been bit down at the time lol

[bob3141]

You're in secondary school, aren't you

Your not very observant if guy works 10 hours shifts. He aint going to be in secondary school.

[bob3141]

i work 10 and half hour shifts. So i barley have any time during the week to read and post. So aposts tend to banged out and any analysis on the thread will only be done sunday to tuesday. And sometimes saturday if i feel like it.

[bob3141]

I always find it funny when players think ive not been analysing the thread. When my hole reasoning could actualy form a short essay. but gets edited down to one line.

Players say oh its infomation and not analysis. Well thats because i watching with my cluedo check sheet. While analysising every page and iso at the same time

[insomnia]

Your style is bound to get you scum read. If you are gonna ask questions but say “meh yeet them, fuck following through” and instead use VCA and meta checks then of course you’re gonna get called out on it.

Because your question serve no purpose in sorting anyone’s alignment if later in the game you’re gonna go “Ok so based on VCA and meta...”

You’re most likely to flip scum just based off this tbh but nah FL needs to get lynched

[insomnia]

When 90% of your ISO content isn’t a reason for manufacturing reads then don’t ask yourself why you’re being scum read :shrug:

[bob3141]

i think its a hang over from naturaly being a cluedo player. To much i keep my thoughts to my self and avoid to much info leak. You get the first half but i never actualy say how its connects to later bits. But it is always connected

as im not good explaining the physiology and game theory aspects. But if you ever see lots of questions and circular vca posts. That simply means im thinking aload as im as much asking myself as the players.

[bob3141]

Its why i naturaly always come to the right solve before being spoiled. The only town game i failed was 21 player game and that was due to it being 10 near twice the size of anything i had played before. I still got 3 out of 4 right.

[bob3141]

Only player i was wrong on was flav.

[bob3141]

and its past 24 hours since i sent my preposition towards fuzzy

VOTE: Fuzzy

What keeps ping me about him and thats why ive been mention teh vca. Is that scum migth bus there first partner but are reluctant to lynch the second. As what was said by some in prior game its just smart play. They are happy to pickup cred for the first scum flip but by the time of the second. Ground has narrowed enough that it normaly spells the end of the game.

Fuzzy was on the first but even when pine simply was barley postign. And at worst we had 2 mislynches to go he ended up on auro. When any vote anywhere would of made a big difference. We had an active slot who at worst was scum playing the game vs pine who was barley playing and looked very much liek scum.

The reason i thought he was scum was the narrowness and shallowness of his reads. Only being on few players and never really asking much of them or saying much about them.

And we have teh first scum lynch who was countered by claimed pr. Who many like me said we were not interested in gjt lynch. Thus scum woudl certianly be happy to bus nom if they thought he was going down any way. There not making choice to bus there partner but are being forced by the mood of the game. In cases like that thee is always one scum bussing.

where as the pine lynch was hard to push over the line. and if i for instance hadnt persevered with trying to push that slot even with lack of response. Which always leaves me perplexed. Its certain just liek if flav hadnt joined, we wouldnt of been able to get pine lycnhed