Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

Auro · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 am

In post 1095, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Pops Defence on Suji.
ML’s vote on a Mason with Suji

I think town!Suji is pretty sensible as a player, her attack on Aldehyde was bad. Read the case about "leading questions". Read my response explaining how context explains those questions and his unvoting a few posts later weakens the case. Then read her response saying "agree to disagree" or something like that.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:33 am

In post 1097, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1091, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1088, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1084, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:To me you said.
I scum read (blank) more but I’ll vote Alu with Suji instead.

So I ask you again.
Why did you scum read Alu so much you were willing to vote them?
No. I never said that to you.

Then explain.
And you still don’t respond to the second part.
When I’d expect a player like you to be able to do.
But then Again if your scum I don’t expect you to do it.
LOL.
I'm not going to respond to the second part, because it was answered long before you started seriously coming at me. If you want a response to that part, you're welcome to read my posts. If you'd expect me to not respond as scum, you've got a problem with your
expectations
. I'm responding to you right now out of courtesy, but to be honest I think you hold
no sway in this game
, and that most people see and agree that you have very little clue what you're talking about a majority of the time.

No sweetheart. The Bolded is you.

Miss Lane · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:34 am

In post 768, Chemist1422 wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

This is disgusting timing.

Combined with the Cheeky vote that immediately follows it, I can go w/ Chemist scum right now, and I'd be willing to at least temporarly town block w/ CSF and TSE.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:34 am

In post 1100, Auro wrote:
In post 1095, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Pops Defence on Suji.
ML’s vote on a Mason with Suji
I think town!Suji is pretty sensible as a player, her attack on Aldehyde was bad. Read the case about "leading questions". Read my response explaining how context explains those questions and his unvoting a few posts later weakens the case. Then read her response saying "agree to disagree" or something like that.

Yeah ok.
As I said before I’ll say it again.
Let’s just take the Safe Lynch.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:35 am

In post 1102, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 768, Chemist1422 wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
This is disgusting timing.

Combined with the Cheeky vote that immediately follows it, I can go w/ Chemist scum right now, and I'd be willing to at least temporarly town block w/ CSF and TSE.

It could just be Pops, Suji and Chemist then if you are actually Town here.

Auro · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:40 am

In post 1099, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Why do you think ML is Town here

I'm not completely sure of this, but I don't think ML fakes the things they posted in the past few pages, especially wrt mechanics

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:41 am

In post 1105, Auro wrote:
In post 1099, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Why do you think ML is Town here
I'm not completely sure of this, but I don't think ML fakes the things they posted in the past few pages, especially wrt mechanics

Look at the D&D game they had.

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:41 am

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81273

Klick · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:43 am

@TSE and Auro:

Convince me on CSF? They've given very little content that I've cared about so far. Is it all related to daykill stuff?
I'm willing to accept TSE town. I'm going to have to sit and think for a bit tonight about Auro. If Auro is Town I have a lot of trouble seeing Enter as town.

Auro · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:44 am

Can you quote townslips they faked?

Sujimichi · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:44 am

In post 1100, Auro wrote:
In post 1095, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Pops Defence on Suji.
ML’s vote on a Mason with Suji
I think town!Suji is pretty sensible as a player, her attack on Aldehyde was bad. Read the case about "leading questions". Read my response explaining how context explains those questions and his unvoting a few posts later weakens the case. Then read her response saying "agree to disagree" or something like that.

It was early in the game for me, and I was trying to establish my reads. I did not read you as Town at the time of your comment, so I took in what you said but I did not wish to debate it. You were correct in that trying to form associations was not the best for this type of game as I took associations as Mafia when they ended up being Masons. This is why I said I was mistaken in my process and I needed to re-evaluate (which I still do). This game has moved extremely quickly for me, and I am busy on weekends. Please allow me time to catch up either tomorrow or Monday.

Miss Lane · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:46 am

In post 1108, Klick wrote:
@TSE and Auro:
Convince me on CSF? They've given very little content that I've cared about so far. Is it all related to daykill stuff?
I'm willing to accept TSE town. I'm going to have to sit and think for a bit tonight about Auro. If Auro is Town I have a lot of trouble seeing Enter as town.

What major game did we play together?

I agree TSE is town, but blocking with him means we have to reach an agreement, which means we have to be able to communicate and I don't think that's happened successfully once this game?

CSF is likely town because of Cheeky and Chemist jumping on their wagon so quickly. This is based off the assumption that Chemist is scum, however.

Miss Lane · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:47 am

I have never been anything but SK in a TSE game. Anyone who's played w/ me as Enter will know that I'm outside my scumrange.

Auro · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:48 am

@Klick, whatever content they have is good. Apologies for not going into detail. I've been using my mobile for the last couple days, so detailed cases are harder to make.

Auro · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:50 am

In post 1111, Miss Lane wrote:CSF is likely town because of Cheeky and Chemist jumping on their wagon so quickly

Good point. Pops was also on this wagon and advocating the "CSF was active" theory at the time.

Miss Lane · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:52 am

In post 1114, Auro wrote:
In post 1111, Miss Lane wrote:CSF is likely town because of Cheeky and Chemist jumping on their wagon so quickly
Good point. Pops was also on this wagon and advocating the "CSF was active" theory at the time.

iirc, that was yshtola. pops rebutted the wagon.

It also seems more likely that there would be at least one town advocating a wagon before two scum jump on anyways.

Auro · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:55 am

In post 771, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: Cat scratch fever

I still think Yshtola's theory is probably wrong, but I think this second kill was quite possibly motivated by the win/win of killing Y'shtola or generating a scumflip that distracted the conversation off of CSF.

That interpretation would still give her a remaining kill, and looking at CSF's posting patterns, she is likely to return in 3-4 hours. If we can flashwagon her very, very quickly here, we could lynch her before she can desperation shoot. As soon as she's aware of this level of pressure she's likely to keep more of an eye on the thread.

Miss Lane · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:55 am

In post 1116, Auro wrote:
In post 771, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: Cat scratch fever

I still think Yshtola's theory is probably wrong, but I think this second kill was quite possibly motivated by the win/win of killing Y'shtola or generating a scumflip that distracted the conversation off of CSF.

That interpretation would still give her a remaining kill, and looking at CSF's posting patterns, she is likely to return in 3-4 hours. If we can flashwagon her very, very quickly here, we could lynch her before she can desperation shoot. As soon as she's aware of this level of pressure she's likely to keep more of an eye on the thread.

Oh I must have missed that.

That is p scummy from her.

Miss Lane · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:56 am

Actually that's really garbage.

Especially w/ Cheeky and Chem jumping on.

VOTE: Chemist

Auro · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:57 am

In post 771, popsofctown wrote:If we can flashwagon her very, very quickly here, we could lynch her before she can desperation shoot.

Especially this is really bad. Unless Pops was gambiting?

Auro · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:04 am

In post 1110, Sujimichi wrote:I did not read you as Town at the time of your comment, so I took in what you said but I did not wish to debate it.

I think you'd know this is a bad idea unless you're super confident someone's scum, and even then I'd say it's a bad idea. Saying you scumread someone isn't an excuse to avoid debating points they raise.

Auro · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:04 am

A valid excuse*

Sujimichi · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:16 am

Without regard to the validity of your point, why do you think I would "know this is a bad idea?" Further, why do you "think town!Suji is pretty sensible as a player?" As far as I recollect, we have not played a game together.

Miss Lane · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:20 am

In post 1101, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:No sweetheart. The Bolded is you.

I have more success working with other players in the one game you call me "scum" than you have in the last three games together combined most of which players have strongly agreed you're town in. I'm really not certain you're in any sort of place to make a statement like this.

Auro · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:21 am

In post 1122, Sujimichi wrote:Without regard to the validity of your point, why do you think I would "know this is a bad idea?" Further, why do you "think town!Suji is pretty sensible as a player?" As far as I recollect, we have not played a game together.

I can infer from your posts, I occasionally check out parts of other games, I've seen you being nommed for Rising Star, etc.