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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:43 am

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In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you townread her?
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 1200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you townread her?
No, I don't.
I only have to townread myself. I am not on the wagon, therefore there is guaranteed to be scum on the wagon.
ftr ML has played pretty well and deserves a win if they get it. - pisskop
Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:44 am

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I could also townread Chemist.
ftr ML has played pretty well and deserves a win if they get it. - pisskop
Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:45 am

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In post 1201, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you townread her?
No, I don't.
I only have to townread myself. I am not on the wagon, therefore there is guaranteed to be scum on the wagon.
Do you not understand Blood Wiplasher?

The way you went about it you can only be two things.

Town that Town reads Suji
Mafia
Town being really dumb this game

Choose ONE!
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:46 am

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In post 1202, Miss Lane wrote:I could also townread Chemist.
You could also claim Scum and self vote.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:48 am

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Suji, you keep saying you want to lynch on the wagon, but you never said who you think is scum on the wagon. Also what are you reads on Chemist and ML?
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 1204, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1202, Miss Lane wrote:I could also townread Chemist.
You could also claim Scum and self vote.
I know your thinking about it.
It’s YOUR CHANCE TO SHINE!
GO GET EM BLOOD WIPLASHER!
YOU GO GIRL!
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 1201, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you townread her?
No, I don't.
I only have to townread myself. I am not on the wagon, therefore there is guaranteed to be scum on the wagon.
No the argument was whether there was exactly 1 or more than 1 scum on the wagon. If you think there's only 1 scum on the wagon, then it's easier to lynch off wagon, since the pool is smaller and you yourself are in the pool and can immediately take yourself out.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:53 am

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In post 1206, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1204, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1202, Miss Lane wrote:I could also townread Chemist.
You could also claim Scum and self vote.
I know your thinking about it.
It’s YOUR CHANCE TO SHINE!
GO GET EM BLOOD WIPLASHER!
YOU GO GIRL!
No but it all seriousness.
Why TF did you stop posting?
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:54 am

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In post 1197, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Swift Deity (Auro)
I'm curious, why that nickname? Is this a reference to something? :P
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:55 am

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In post 1207, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1201, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you townread her?
No, I don't.
I only have to townread myself. I am not on the wagon, therefore there is guaranteed to be scum on the wagon.
No the argument was whether there was exactly 1 or more than 1 scum on the wagon. If you think there's only 1 scum on the wagon, then it's easier to lynch off wagon, since the pool is smaller and you yourself are in the pool and can immediately take yourself out.
Funny part is though.
Blood Wiplasher (ML) is showing resistance to this so much.
Yet Swift Deity (Auro) still Town reads them.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:55 am

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In post 1209, Auro wrote:
In post 1197, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Swift Deity (Auro)
I'm curious, why that nickname? Is this a reference to something? :P
IDK I just choose what came to mind when thinking about you so far.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:56 am

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In post 1207, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1201, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you townread her?
No, I don't.
I only have to townread myself. I am not on the wagon, therefore there is guaranteed to be scum on the wagon.
No the argument was whether there was exactly 1 or more than 1 scum on the wagon. If you think there's only 1 scum on the wagon, then it's easier to lynch off wagon, since the pool is smaller and you yourself are in the pool and can immediately take yourself out.
I see what you're saying. I'm entertaining Sujimi's approach right now while I try and ISO her to see if I can validate it, mostly because I enjoy being able to take complicated problems and boil them down to numbers, but I guess this might have been what Auro was saying earlier, in that practically speaking I'd have to town read Sujimi and Chemist in order to truly subscribe to only observing the wagon.

If that's what you were trying to get across Auro, I apologize.
ftr ML has played pretty well and deserves a win if they get it. - pisskop
Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:58 am

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In post 1212, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1207, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1201, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you townread her?
No, I don't.
I only have to townread myself. I am not on the wagon, therefore there is guaranteed to be scum on the wagon.
No the argument was whether there was exactly 1 or more than 1 scum on the wagon. If you think there's only 1 scum on the wagon, then it's easier to lynch off wagon, since the pool is smaller and you yourself are in the pool and can immediately take yourself out.
I see what you're saying. I'm entertaining Sujimi's approach right now while I try and ISO her to see if I can validate it, mostly because I enjoy being able to take complicated problems and boil them down to numbers, but I guess this might have been what Auro was saying earlier, in that practically speaking I'd have to town read Sujimi and Chemist in order to truly subscribe to only observing the wagon.

If that's what you were trying to get across Auro, I apologize.
I mean if you’d read my first post about it.
You might have understood it better.

If you are truly a hero and not a Villian, Blood Wiplasher.
Then prove it.
Show Swift Deity that he’s right about you.
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:58 am

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By better I mean faster.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:02 am

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I like Sujimi's approach and questions so far. She's at the very worst null, the only hesitation I have about her is that certain suspicions from her seem to be directed towards players who are confirmed town at this point.
ftr ML has played pretty well and deserves a win if they get it. - pisskop
Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:06 am

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In post 1201, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1159, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 1157, Auro wrote:@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.
Why is that the case?

If you're going to do any sort of VCA, Sujimi's approach is the only logical one I can see from here.
You'd have to townread Sujimi though to take this approach. Do you
townread her?
No, I don't.

I only have to townread myself. I am not on the wagon, therefore there is guaranteed to be scum on the wagon.
In post 1215, Miss Lane wrote:I like Sujimi's approach and questions so far. She's at the very worst null, the only hesitation I have about her is that certain suspicions from her seem to be directed towards players who are confirmed town at this point.
What’s Null to you exactly?
So your at their very worst then?
Because you said you don’t Town read them but you don’t scum read them but the very worst is Null.

Is there another read I’m forgetting!!!????

Do you Third Party Read them!!??
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:07 am

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I've seen very little I like from Klick. A few posts here and there, but generally speaking one of the most fence-sitty players in the game.

I don't think I'd put him as more likely to be town than Suji.
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Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:14 am

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TSE the more you argue with ML the more I start skimming.
I didn't catch why you're sold on CFS town.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:28 am

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In post 710, Auro wrote:
In post 705, Klick wrote:Talk to me about Suji
I will, in a bit
I'd still like even just a tldr on this as well. There's a lot of talk about Suji from you with little substance.
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:29 am

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In post 1219, Klick wrote:
In post 710, Auro wrote:
In post 705, Klick wrote:Talk to me about Suji
I will, in a bit
I'd still like even just a tldr on this as well. There's a lot of talk about Suji from you with little substance.
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Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:31 am

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In post 1182, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1179, Miss Lane wrote:TSE stop calling me sweetheart.
Ok sweetheart.
Please do not do this again or call anyone by a name they do not wish to be referred by. This is your first and final warning.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:35 am

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Klick, do you scumread me? If so, why
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:43 am

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Not particularly? You made a post earlier that I remember liking and I remember finding that significant considering you'd been sliding under my radar for the rest of the game. You/Chemist are both giving me very little to work with
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:44 am

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Klick, which way do you lean on Chemist?
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Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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