Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[TrueSoulEnergy]

see that's a level of thinking I'm incapable of at 7:30 AM

I was just thinking "suji was the counterwagon to cheeky so suji is town and klick/auro has a scum"

OK YEAH

I CALLED IT AND IM LAUGHING

POPS, SUJI and CHEMIST ARE OPEN WOLFING AND USING THEIR LAST HOPE AND DEFENDING EACH OTHER!

[popsofctown]

If I'm supposed to assume Auro is town and his reads are probably good, then I'd sheep his Sujimichi case.
If I'm supposed to assume Auro is town and misreading me means this is an offgame for him and I should believe in myself, I think there's some good reasons to scumread A Fever You Can't Sweat Out
If I'm supposed to get really scared of mislynching in MyLo I think I push Chemist because he's kind of been a nothing sandwich like he is in most of his games but circumstantial evidences from lots of slots seeming to have town equity + Chemist never getting pushed makes the chances he is scum rather high

The first of those perspectives makes the most sense. If Auro is town I'm having just as bad a game as he is, worse because I'm tunnelier, if he's scum I have the best chance of changing hearts and minds after a missed or abstained vig tomorrow if he had more ownership over a today's lynch.

How does the game change perspective if for some reason you are allowed a vig shot and Chemist flips town?

It doesn't change an awful lot, I think it's, like, TMI to not show interest in his lynch, but on the other hand nightless tends to incentivize scum to push for mislynches proactively, I agree with that concept. It kind of averages out to a watch. If you say that makes Chemist a low information list that's not the best lynch for today I don't think I disagree.

[popsofctown]

*wash not watch sorry for softing my watcher role i'll try to hide it next game

[Auro]

misreading me means this is an offgame for him

I know you hate self meta and I feel like I've asked this before, but how should I recognize you're town here? Your CSF flashwagon attempt was gross, your pushes on me were all weak and you kept pushing the "Auro could be scum leading a town circus" angle, you kept defending one of my strongest scumreads with weak reasoning.

There were large parts of ML's posts I disagreed with heavily and even though ML entered the day with that attack on me, I read her town from some towntells she dropped.

Are you out of your scumrange, Pops?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.

More and More reason why Auro is Town.

The proof just keeps on coming.

@Mafia (3 out of Chemist, Pops, Suji, ML)
Maybe if you all defend each other you could have a chance.
LOL no, your all fucked.
I just want a laugh.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

We win once Auro/CSF/Klick

All acknowledge each other as Town.

And vote Suji with me.

Remember this @Klick and @CSF

[TrueSoulEnergy]

*wash not watch sorry for softing my watcher role i'll try to hide it next game

You know there’s no PR in this so what was the point in doing that?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@ML: I'm not saying that one scum is likely on the wagon is fallacious, but implying that you hunt in the wagon while not lynching outside is.

More and More reason why Auro is Town.

The proof just keeps on coming.

@Mafia (3 out of Chemist, Pops, Suji, ML)
Maybe if you all defend each other you could have a chance.
LOL no, your all fucked.
I just want a laugh.

So Chemist, Suji and Pops are the Team.
Good to know.
We need some Villian Names.

What’s you thinking Swift Deity?

[Miss Lane]

Auro, in BoP 1, how much of Michael Scott was you?

Also, do you think I'm a competent mafia player?

Yes, and I don't know. I think your logic is wonky at many places.
I can absolutely fake this energy as scum.

Yes, most of BoP was you?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Fun Fact.
I can single handily
Win games.

If there was a game where one players Mayor and they were the only player that can vote and I was that role.
It wouldn’t be a game.
It’d be a TSE Win.

[Auro]

Yup, IIRC.

[Miss Lane]

I agree that most energy can be faked by a competent enough player. The problem I'm trying to overcome is whether or not you'd have the motivation to fake it.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

When you return, Chemist why did you vote me here?

last post I saw before Rhul got shot was them pushing you

[Auro]

I remember having asked my buddy to start protesting when you said you'd guess us as the team, unfortunately she went offline at that moment

[Auro]

The problem I'm trying to overcome is whether or not you'd have the motivation to fake it.

To win?
Although now I hate playing scum so I dunno if I'd be as enthusiastic, but whatever.

[Chemist1422]

Fun Fact.
I can single handily
Win games.

If there was a game where one players Mayor and they were the only player that can vote and I was that role.
It wouldn’t be a game.
It’d be a TSE Win.

do you ever shut up

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I agree that most energy can be faked by a competent enough player. The problem I'm trying to overcome is whether or not you'd have the motivation to fake it.

All you have to do is believe in the SUPERSQUAD.
If you believe in it your answers simple.

The Villans are Suji, Pops and Chemist.

All you have to do Blood Wiplasher is Vote with us and get rid of these filthy Villains.

[Miss Lane]

You're ok with Suji, pops, or Chemist today, Auro?

[popsofctown]

You repeatedly make these little mentions that would imply you could sympathize with an Auro scumread but then go on to talk about how bad the scumread is and how you think I'm scum for it. Like 4 posts ago you told ML you could be high energy as scum and the circus metaphor was precisely about how you've been high energy and I sense you're the kind of player that could do that as scum.

I am not -actually- a Nancy Drew 39 alt so I'm not going to scream the reasons at you you should be townreading me, I never do that as either alignment. When I roll town I'm usually mystified by the reasons people come up with for townreading me. I don't tend to really view anything as out of my scumrange - even when Klick asked me a similar question, I couldn't help but veer offtopic to how, sometimes maybe sometimes, I could XYZ as scum sometimes.

I don't usually get indignant about getting mislynched either, except the time I was 24 hours-past-gamestart flashwagoned

I don't know what I could give you. When RC scumread me after I'd hyperposted I tried giving him everything but the only thing that worked was a Redirector claim. I don't think it's likely your view will shift. There is a reason the two phases I'm most likely get lynched are Day 1 and enough-joke-votes-in-postgame-discussion-to-lynch

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Fun Fact.
I can single handily
Win games.

If there was a game where one players Mayor and they were the only player that can vote and I was that role.
It wouldn’t be a game.
It’d be a TSE Win.

do you ever shut up

I like how you respond to that.

VoteCount 1.6

RVS Award for

Huh, Fair Enough

goes to...

Ayy, i dont believe in Rv so i am going to vote mafia, since its towny to vote mafia

VOTE: CloudKicker

CheekyTeeky [4]

- Cat Scratch Fever, Auro, Yshtola Rhul, woodchuck321

TrueSoulEnergy [2]

- Alduskkel, Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Alduskkel [1]

- Miss Lynch

Not Voting [3]

- popsofctown, Homura, Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

VoteCount 1.9

RVS Award for

Fair Randomness

goes to...

Vote: Usernamenotincluded

Um, i that's the forum code i learned from another forum, i hope that bolds alright. Points for trying?
Yeah, i don't have a random number generator, so i just punched random buttons in the calculator you can get off the start menu and used the last digit. Since there's 9 people, capricious was both 9 and 0....

Vote: popsofctown

for his biased, shameful, indignant voting system

crap... i realized right after i posted it... Capricious is gonna vote me. But you other 8 got the good end of the stick so you won't vote for me right?
Heh, i'm happy i got my voting right.

CheekyTeeky [3]

- Cat Scratch Fever, Yshtola Rhul, woodchuck321

Homura [2]

- Klick, Auro

TrueSoulEnergy [1]

- Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Alduskkel [1]

- Miss Lynch

Egix [1]

- Alduskkel

Not Voting [2]

- popsofctown, Homura

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

VoteCount 1.10

RVS Award for

Best Randomness

goes to...

The Dart Board gives me a

vote of MeMe

Hey, everyone!

Random Vote: Lemming

.

Hey, everyone!

Random Vote: Lemming

.

fix your randomizer it is broken

The Dart Board gives me a

vote of MeMe

Fix your dart board. It is broken.

Sujimichi [3]

- Klick, Auro, Yshtola Rhul

CheekyTeeky [2]

- Cat Scratch Fever, woodchuck321

Alduskkel [2]

- Miss Lynch, popsofctown

TrueSoulEnergy [1]

- Chemist1422

Auro [1]

- Egix96

woodchuck [1]

- CheekyTeeky

Klick [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Egix [1]

- Alduskkel

Not Voting [1]

- Sujimichi

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-04 17:42:53)

let's talk about these votecounts

Yeah the SUPERSQUAD already did that.

I thought you were reading the game.
Did you forget?

But not this.

[Chemist1422]

Fine you know what I'm not dealing with another TSE tunnel and I have to take myself out of the PoE somehow

I'm the last mason

[Miss Lane]

The problem I'm trying to overcome is whether or not you'd have the motivation to fake it.

To win?
Although now I hate playing scum so I dunno if I'd be as enthusiastic, but whatever.

O agree the motivation to win is helpful, but I think a lot of people find difficulty finding the excitement to push if the win seems certain or almost impossible. It's only when there is relatively tight negotiation between two players and the effort is what will drive you over the line that I expect players to put in the kind of energy I see from you.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

You're ok with Suji, pops, or Chemist today, Auro?

Why wouldn’t he be?
It’s the Villain team.

Do you want to lynch Pops first (even though I know you probably wanna lynch Chemist first)
Because I really wanna lynch Pops first.

[Miss Lane]

Fine you know what I'm not dealing with another TSE tunnel and I have to take myself out of the PoE somehow

I'm the last mason

Fuck.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Fine you know what I'm not dealing with another TSE tunnel and I have to take myself out of the PoE somehow

I'm the last mason

I doubt this.