Newbie 1988 | Octopus | Over

[Ph0enix]

TSE, I guess you're on translation duty.

Phoenix, I'll try to explain my theory tonight. It makes sense in my head as an aha type moment but I'm not the clearest.

He’s just giving buddy reads.
Whom he thinks are scum buddies.

That part I understand, it's just that his phrasing confuses me, idk.

[CheekyTeeky]

Phi posted only once? Two goons versus PR/goon, one silent one talkative

Considering Phi Kappa silent pull info from

tapioca easy pull
karnage close enough to be sideways
lunar both silen
phoenix precise nervous
tse present similar opposite enough to be forgotten
titus blase but could be hiding more
cheeky further aloof

cheeky tapioca
cheeky karnage
cheeky lunar
cheeky phoenix
cheeky tse
cheeky titus
cheeky phi

titus lunar
titus phi ok combo
titus cheeky soso
titus karnage fed
titus phoenix lasso

lunar karnage / karnage lunar commodores

phoenix tapioca
titus tapioca karnage titus

I'm really confused about how you got here?

[CheekyTeeky]

He’s just giving buddy reads.
Whom he thinks are scum buddies

Yeah but based on what?

At this point I'm only townreading Phoneix and Tap. We need more wagons or something.

[Karnage]

At this point I'm only townreading Phoneix and Tap. We need more wagons or something.

I went back and looked at ph0enix's ISO and I probably judged him too harshly for his reaction to QQ.

What are you seeing from tap that makes him a town read?

[Karnage]

Your posts you made as a greater possibility of it being done by scum then that of Cheeky’s posts.

Elaborate

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Your posts you made as a greater possibility of it being done by scum then that of Cheeky’s posts.

Elaborate

Nothing they did ping me.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.05

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

QuantumQuasar

(2): Ph0enix, CheekyTeeky

Karnage

(2): Titus, TrueSoulEnergy

Phi Kappa Phi

(1): Tapiocaphobe

Ph0enix

(1): QuantumQuasar

LunarRest

(1): Phi Kappa Phi

Tapiocaphobe

(1): Karnage

Not Voting

(1): LunarRest

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-07 22:45:00).

Mod notes:

Phi Kappa Phi is being replaced.[/area]

[Plotinus]

Tapiocaphobe¹ has been prodded and has (expired on 2020-03-02 21:21:00) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

[Tapiocaphobe]

sorry still around, I need to reread

[CheekyTeeky]

Zzzz

[QuantumQuasar]

vote ph0enix

post #51

rule #4 Don't talk about ongoing games - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.

My vote is fhe only correct one because we're not bandwagoning day one

Plus, Lunarrest and Phi can both be afk and considered incapacitated in an estate where we all hold joint shares so in the event no action happens on night one (as it should because we're not waiting for blood to be spilled)

then why replace them?

vote ph0enix and let the two others be afk

[CheekyTeeky]

QQ you want to policy lynch Phoenix?

[Titus]

I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).

[QuantumQuasar]

Voting ph0enix due to a violation of a rule is fact based.

I would still have a clear conscience.

The point is that a reference has been made to an external realm. What happened on post #51 affected the integrity of all participants in that instance and in this present one.

I had a hunch reasoning earlier on tells and I'm not trying to convince anyone of the defensibility on this action as I might be wrong and you are responsible for your own actions, instead of relying on behavioral reads I would be much more comfortable just lynching who is already guilty from a broken rule.

With regard to whoever is afk maybe they gave up and we should bear responsibility as time is running

I'm very sorry I don't know about you but one life. I'm not YOLOing my life and I don't know if I'll live by day two.

I'd rather think of the defensibility of my actions at the gates of heaven on judgement day.

That's why as a disclaimer regarding responsibility, a rule was broken and the consequence is not mine.

What's worse is the persistence of error.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I wanna say QQ is Town from his recent content but I also haven’t played with them before.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Then again re-reading it, it looks like shit.

[CheekyTeeky]

I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).

so you townread everyone else?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).

so you townread everyone else?

How TF did you reach that conclusion?

[CheekyTeeky]

Um QQ someone breaking the rules is Not Alignment Indicative (NAI) therefore you are lynching them because you dislike something they have done rather than thinking they are scum which is pretty much what a policy lynch is.

Like I could policy lynch Titus because her reads are terrible (which is NAI) but I'm actually scumreading Titus because I feel her behaviour is more likely from scum. I think he votes so far are busy work rather than her actually ascertaining a read on players and her confidence in Cheeky/karnage being scum reads fake. Iirc Titus usually takes a while getting into the game so I think she knows people's alignments and is acting awkward scum. Now there's just the question of who is her partner...

QQ you need to do more than be nonsensical and try to actually figure out the intent of what players are doing. Like is rule breaking more likely to come from scum and why? Why would town perpetrate the same behaviour?

[CheekyTeeky]

I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).

so you townread everyone else?

How TF did you reach that conclusion?

Can you please not interfere? Thanks.

[CheekyTeeky]

At this point I'm only townreading Phoneix and Tap. We need more wagons or something.

I went back and looked at ph0enix's ISO and I probably judged him too harshly for his reaction to QQ.

What are you seeing from tap that makes him a town read?

The Tap read is related to my Titus read. I like Tap's reaction to his wagon.

[QuantumQuasar]

We can't have collective responsibility but we can have privateand individual good conscience from our own actions. The incentive to lynch to obtain feedback is a morally false premise fpr divide and conquer tactics.

I mentioned earlier the statue sculpted as law is better for the custody of Phi Kappa Phi and Lunarrest.

Instead of looking for an anchor and bias, I'm not going to speculate and focus what I can do.

I would recommend lynching ph0enix and ending the day early with phi kappa phi and lunarrest inactive before they wake up from their slumber after more than 48 hours so we can get moving instead of beating around the bush.

[Karnage]

QQ reminds me of DocWatson in Newbie 1952. Watson's first handful of posts were copied and pasted from a Hectic newbie game. I forget the why they did this but they were town. QQ's posts, though not the same thing, give me a similar vibe which is why I'm not prepared to make any decision about their alignment yet

[Karnage]

Nothing they did ping me.

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I meant elaborate on why my posts make you think i'm more likely to be scum

[Karnage]

I'll try to explain my theory tonight. It makes sense in my head as an aha type moment but I'm not the clearest.

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