Micro 922: Strawberry Mafia (Game over!)

[Ame]

884

Wrong tag

[Slaxx]

DDL didn’t seem like theater to me it actually seemed genuine

[Ame]

ddl may I see one of your scum games?

Doc should claim as being night killed would be beneficial. I'm VT.

[Ame]

Doc should protect Kanna and Kanna should investigate doc

[Ame]

And we lynch the other. E.g. Clidd claims doc, we lynch ddl

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 2.07

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With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

Kanna

(2): Ame, clidd

DrDolittle

(2): Hectic, Compath

Hectic

(2): DrDolittle, Slaxx

clidd

(1): Kanna

No Lynch

(1): Luca Blight

Not Voting

(0):

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-05 05:30:00).

Mod notes:

• Compath is V/LA.

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[DrDolittle]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81747

[DrDolittle]

Right, so the town response would be something like "Luca's not cleared"

But instead, you went through the theatre of coming to that conclusion over multiple post

idk sorry im not as smart as you think i am.

im not claiming btw

[DrDolittle]

can someone that is not me check balance pls

[Ame]

@Clidd are you here?

[Ame]

idk sorry im not as smart as you think i am.

Your RDJ ava says otherwise (along with reviewing a previous game of yours where you were on top of setup spec)

im not claiming btw

y?

(btw who did you think I was an alt of? amrun?)

[Kanna]

@Ame; I liked these posts from Luca. Looks to me like sorting with good faith vs what I thought was bad faith with me before

Spoiler:

-What is your read on Dark Knight Luca now?

Up in the air. I'm awaiting his responses.

What caused your read on me to be ‘up in the air’?

Your insistence on scum!Ico despite us just having played a town game together. I also feel ur using something of a double standard when it comes to casing me vs your read on Clidd.

I’m not insisting that you’re scum; I’m still in the process of working you out.

It may seem like a double standard to you, but the fact is I’ve seen Clidd do the same things in previous Town games as what you’re scumreading him for here. Others have seen it too. Given this context, do you really believe I’m reading this in a manipulative way? Have you never had such meta reads before yourself?

I hold you and Clidd to different standards, because you’re both very different players.

@Luca why did you feel Compath over Iconeum before. You made multi-post case on Ico and barely anything on Compath.

Also I've been feeling a lack of force behind your pushes this game. Where's the spirit?

I wrongly hard SR Icon in the last game we were in together, so it’s possible I’m wrong even though I think he’s scum. Compath’s play has no redeeming features so I felt more comfortable lynching there, but as I said I’m ok lynching either of them.

You seem to always say my pushes lack force, maybe that’s just my play style? I don’t normally push really hard unless I’m convinced someone is scum.

Traveling atm, will continue when I get back home.

Compath: I really liked these posts + tone

Spoiler:

VOTE: slaxxx
feelin decent about compath rn actually

What changed in between your "serious" vote and here? I don't think I posted any real content in between your "serious" vote and your change of mind.

Clidd feels like he's trying too hard to be honest.

@Clidd - How is your Iconeum read different from the null reads you have on Luca and DDL?

Why did you basically completely ignore slaxx?

Why do you need something to "radically" change your opinion in order to not scumread Ame, despite stating that you only find them to be slightly suspicious?

Why is playing a character town-indicative for Hectic? In my opinion, it'd be scum-indicative because he gets to hide behind the character that he's playing.

What specifically did you find scummy in Kanna/my RQS answers? Did you find the fact that we quickly complied with RQS to be scummy, or something else?

Town the worst - My favorite duckling. Quack!
Kanna - Questioning others and actively generating content. They're participating in interactions that they don't really need to.
Hectic - Still a quality memer, like usual. Despite putting up an act as this Officer "Officer" Officer guy, he feels surprisingly natural.
Iconeum - Gut, and also sort of meta read. Asking questions and actively pressuring Ame. Ame - Doubles down on the "Answer my RQS" thing, and draws unnecessary attention to themselves. DDL - Feels very relaxed and natural, saying things as they come to his mind.
Null Luca Blight - He just hasn't done much yet.
Slaxx - Gut, and I also dislike post 66.
Clidd - He simply feels like he's trying too hard. He calls Ico's interactions with Ame "well-intentioned". Despite this, he still puts Ico as a nullish read. Some of his reads simply don't make much sense. He townreads Hectic for playing a character, and scumreads Kanna and I for something related to Ame's RQS, and doesn't elaborate on it at all. His post 88 also feels like he made it hard to read on purpose.
Scum Datisi - Gets too many pagetops. Leave some for the rest of us!

Ok wait, I just noticed something about clidd's wall. Why wasn't slaxx included?

I forgot about him, did the post quickly.

I highly doubt you "did that post quickly"

The first quote about Ame was very unnecessarily long. You also go through a meta read on Ame. You bother to link the games you were referencing, and even color coded and bolded certain words.

Despite having such a long and detailed scum case on Ame (half of which you could've just deleted and we still would've understood it perfectly fine), you quickly go over Kanna and I in

one sentence

without any real explanation.

Ico: again tone + I could sort of understand the rqs push because I've had a similar experience before

Spoiler:

Hello! Everyone, please answer these very important questions. I've spent thousands of hours researching questions that are guaranteed to distinguish scum from town. If everyone answers, we should know the scum team within the first page!

1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?

VOTE: DrDoLittle

for voting a townie

fun fact: last couple of times (or was it just once? not sure) i saw someone open with this it was scum who wanted to blend in.
Also do you think that voting for a townie is scum indicative?

Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.

do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?

Things are going to be

hectic

with you around.

VOTE: Hectic

VOTE: compath serious vote

Hello! Everyone, please answer these very important questions. I've spent thousands of hours researching questions that are guaranteed to distinguish scum from town. If everyone answers, we should know the scum team within the first page!

1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?

VOTE: DrDoLittle

for voting a townie

this implies that ame is townreading compath for that opening, which is a stretch

at best

fun fact: last couple of times (or was it just once? not sure) i saw someone open with this it was scum who wanted to blend in.
Also do you think that voting for a townie is scum indicative?

I get that a lot! Something about it being LAMIST.

Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.

I like your avatar, please answer my questions! This particular set has never failed to identify scum. Once everyone answers, we should have this game solved in no time

the way ame says 'voting a townie that is playing townie' is scummy, strongly suggests ame is actually strong townreading compath because??

That is neat.

Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.

do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?

Yes

The way ame is dodging around my questions strongly feels like he doesn't wanna be held accountable for this read, which really pings me.

I'm 'intense' because ame is pinging me like crazy

The holding on to RQS, how ame refuses to prove it has caught scum in the past, the refusal to talk about it, the refusing to engage with me upon it (exchange questions, withdrawing once ame realized it would have to actually answer my concerns)

And I have literally caught scum in the past for literally what ame is doing right now. I think it was in teh newbie queue. Would have to look it up if anyone's interested.

[Kanna]

Also sidenote; I looked through clidd's scumgame again wrt to

@Luca, what makes you so sure clidd is town if you've seen him do posts like this as scum?

Clidd typed that post before he even knew he was scum, therefore it didn't come from a scum mindset.

What do you mean? Don’t you have to confirm your role before you play? ???

Read his iso from that game, he typed that post before he was sent his role PM.

and what Luca says here is wrong. He says "

As soon as i confirmed

, i did a brief reading of the events of the beginning until the middle, before the announcement of the mod about both players, and started typing." (because I can't quote locked forums anymore)

Don't know if it's relevant rn but I don't think we should underestimate clidd lol

[Kanna]

I thought about it and I think massclaim might not be good today after all. Not gonna say anything else cause I don't know how but yeah

[Kanna]

I'm slightly leaning Hectic I think

feelsbad

[Kanna]

Also Hectic already claimed...

[Hectic]

trainee "trainee" trainee asking why

I'm slightly leaning Hectic I think

feelsbad

we recommend you do a routine gun inspection of The Force tonight if you believe we're handling illegal firearms

why do you civilianread the Doctor? do you disagree with our case?

[Datisi]

Prodding clidd.

[Luca Blight]

My current lynch preference would be Clidd, but I’m still comfortable with a no-lynch.

[clidd]

My interest has been progressively falling in this game, but I believe that the correct lynch is between: DDL and Luca. Both have been sporadic opinions about me. Kanna seems to have shown a degree of honesty in his interest about reading my last game.

In any case, my vote continues to be directed by Ame's will. I'm also VT.

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[clidd]

@Ame; I liked these posts from Luca. Looks to me like sorting with good faith vs what I thought was bad faith with me before

Spoiler:

-What is your read on Dark Knight Luca now?

Up in the air. I'm awaiting his responses.

What caused your read on me to be ‘up in the air’?

Your insistence on scum!Ico despite us just having played a town game together. I also feel ur using something of a double standard when it comes to casing me vs your read on Clidd.

I’m not insisting that you’re scum; I’m still in the process of working you out.

It may seem like a double standard to you, but the fact is I’ve seen Clidd do the same things in previous Town games as what you’re scumreading him for here. Others have seen it too. Given this context, do you really believe I’m reading this in a manipulative way? Have you never had such meta reads before yourself?

I hold you and Clidd to different standards, because you’re both very different players.

@Luca why did you feel Compath over Iconeum before. You made multi-post case on Ico and barely anything on Compath.

Also I've been feeling a lack of force behind your pushes this game. Where's the spirit?

I wrongly hard SR Icon in the last game we were in together, so it’s possible I’m wrong even though I think he’s scum. Compath’s play has no redeeming features so I felt more comfortable lynching there, but as I said I’m ok lynching either of them.

You seem to always say my pushes lack force, maybe that’s just my play style? I don’t normally push really hard unless I’m convinced someone is scum.

Traveling atm, will continue when I get back home.

Compath: I really liked these posts + tone

Spoiler:

VOTE: slaxxx
feelin decent about compath rn actually

What changed in between your "serious" vote and here? I don't think I posted any real content in between your "serious" vote and your change of mind.

Clidd feels like he's trying too hard to be honest.

@Clidd - How is your Iconeum read different from the null reads you have on Luca and DDL?

Why did you basically completely ignore slaxx?

Why do you need something to "radically" change your opinion in order to not scumread Ame, despite stating that you only find them to be slightly suspicious?

Why is playing a character town-indicative for Hectic? In my opinion, it'd be scum-indicative because he gets to hide behind the character that he's playing.

What specifically did you find scummy in Kanna/my RQS answers? Did you find the fact that we quickly complied with RQS to be scummy, or something else?

Town the worst - My favorite duckling. Quack!
Kanna - Questioning others and actively generating content. They're participating in interactions that they don't really need to.
Hectic - Still a quality memer, like usual. Despite putting up an act as this Officer "Officer" Officer guy, he feels surprisingly natural.
Iconeum - Gut, and also sort of meta read. Asking questions and actively pressuring Ame. Ame - Doubles down on the "Answer my RQS" thing, and draws unnecessary attention to themselves. DDL - Feels very relaxed and natural, saying things as they come to his mind.
Null Luca Blight - He just hasn't done much yet.
Slaxx - Gut, and I also dislike post 66.
Clidd - He simply feels like he's trying too hard. He calls Ico's interactions with Ame "well-intentioned". Despite this, he still puts Ico as a nullish read. Some of his reads simply don't make much sense. He townreads Hectic for playing a character, and scumreads Kanna and I for something related to Ame's RQS, and doesn't elaborate on it at all. His post 88 also feels like he made it hard to read on purpose.
Scum Datisi - Gets too many pagetops. Leave some for the rest of us!

Ok wait, I just noticed something about clidd's wall. Why wasn't slaxx included?

I forgot about him, did the post quickly.

I highly doubt you "did that post quickly"

The first quote about Ame was very unnecessarily long. You also go through a meta read on Ame. You bother to link the games you were referencing, and even color coded and bolded certain words.

Despite having such a long and detailed scum case on Ame (half of which you could've just deleted and we still would've understood it perfectly fine), you quickly go over Kanna and I in

one sentence

without any real explanation.

Ico: again tone + I could sort of understand the rqs push because I've had a similar experience before

Spoiler:

Hello! Everyone, please answer these very important questions. I've spent thousands of hours researching questions that are guaranteed to distinguish scum from town. If everyone answers, we should know the scum team within the first page!

1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?

VOTE: DrDoLittle

for voting a townie

fun fact: last couple of times (or was it just once? not sure) i saw someone open with this it was scum who wanted to blend in.
Also do you think that voting for a townie is scum indicative?

Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.

do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?

Things are going to be

hectic

with you around.

VOTE: Hectic

VOTE: compath serious vote

Hello! Everyone, please answer these very important questions. I've spent thousands of hours researching questions that are guaranteed to distinguish scum from town. If everyone answers, we should know the scum team within the first page!

1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?

VOTE: DrDoLittle

for voting a townie

this implies that ame is townreading compath for that opening, which is a stretch

at best

fun fact: last couple of times (or was it just once? not sure) i saw someone open with this it was scum who wanted to blend in.
Also do you think that voting for a townie is scum indicative?

I get that a lot! Something about it being LAMIST.

Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.

I like your avatar, please answer my questions! This particular set has never failed to identify scum. Once everyone answers, we should have this game solved in no time

the way ame says 'voting a townie that is playing townie' is scummy, strongly suggests ame is actually strong townreading compath because??

That is neat.

Voting a townie isn't scum indicative. Voting a townie that is playing towny is.

do you consider your vote on DDL an rvs vote or are you serious about it?

Yes

The way ame is dodging around my questions strongly feels like he doesn't wanna be held accountable for this read, which really pings me.

I'm 'intense' because ame is pinging me like crazy

The holding on to RQS, how ame refuses to prove it has caught scum in the past, the refusal to talk about it, the refusing to engage with me upon it (exchange questions, withdrawing once ame realized it would have to actually answer my concerns)

And I have literally caught scum in the past for literally what ame is doing right now. I think it was in teh newbie queue. Would have to look it up if anyone's interested.

Ico didn't have a good tone, this kind of approach to Ame's questions was biased, I don't understand how you didn't observe that.

[clidd]

@Clidd are you here?

I am, stop prodding me.

[clidd]

My current lynch preference would be Clidd, but I’m still comfortable with a no-lynch.

First you come as a good Samaritan, commenting on my town-meta, but suddenly your attitude changes when you are refuted in a simple point about my text in the past game. No resistance. What if I told you that you are correct about my text coming from a town mentality ?

[Luca Blight]

It has nothing to do with that.

I think you’re the most likely to be scum based on PoE, your stance towards Icon D1 and your Compath vote to put him L-1 after I said I had an inno on him.

[Luca Blight]

Your recent posts give me more confidence in you being scum, however.

SR’ing two players based on reading you ‘sporadically’ is unnatural given the information available following a D1 scum flip, and is not even true - there has been nothing sporadic about how I’ve read you. I maintained you were Town throughout D1, and have since reconsidered due to significant new information. The fact you’re trying to paint this as a scummy progression seems disingenuous.

VOTE: Clidd