Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[Hectic]

VoteCount 6.3

RVS Award for

The Rule of Three

goes to...

First!

vote Moses

Second!

Vote: dom:inc

Third!

Vote: HairyCarey

Third is always scummy.

unvote, vote, TradaPib

TrueSoulEnergy [1]

- Chemist1422

popsofctown [1]

- TrueSoulEnergy

Not Voting [6]

- popsofctown, Miss Lynch, Cat Scratch Fever, Klick, Auro, Sujimichi

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day will end when the timer hits zero:

(expired on 2020-03-10 10:40:24)

[Auro]

I think Chemist invited.

[Auro]

Unvoted*

[Chemist1422]

What comes to mind first. Go.

CSF/TSE/Suji?

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: TSE

So Hectic doesn’t have to fix his VC

[popsofctown]

Not all heroes wear capes

[Sujimichi]

One thing I was kind of expecting from you unprompted today was a coherent townbloc proposal, even if it's only two or three cards at this point, and I don't remember seeing that type of thought.

I was conversely expecting a scumteam solve.
Proposing Auro/CSF/Klick doesn't seem to make much sense if scum!her believes I won't change my mind and TSE won't.

Six of one half a dozen of the other

Did you happen to miss my commentary on the Mafia team? Because, you saw (and agreed with) my thoughts on Cat Scratch Fever, and if a “scumteam” solve is the same as a “townbloc” proposal, then I am not sure the reason for your comment.

[popsofctown]

Emphasis on unprompted, the first time I see you spell out a full team, it is when Auro asks, "Who are my partners?", which essentially is asking you to name a full team.

It's not a lock-her-up-and-throw-away-the-key item, Auro's points are stronger, but mentioning some of my own thoughts can make me more readable.

[Auro]

Maybe she's signaling you to concentrate more on trying to get into a townbloc instead of necessarily convincing people on cases

[popsofctown]

Auro if you think we're a scumteam you should look for posts that are Sujimichi teaching me to play scum. She has a 100% winrate.

[Sujimichi]

That is reasonable. However, note that his request came shortly after I finished catching up.

[Sujimichi]

That post was directed at popsofctown’s post 1557.

[Auro]

Now you can see why I'm so paranoid about Suji! :p

[Auro]

But still I think it's not nothing that my teammates didn't see enough in my piece to carry the torch the next mile on this, which is a reason to be less confident.

The phrasing here strikes me weirdly, too!

[Auro]

But still I think it's not nothing that my teammates didn't see enough in my piece to carry the torch the next mile on this, which is a reason to be less confident.

The phrasing here strikes me weirdly, too!

Suji, does this look odd to you? If so, can you tell me why?

[popsofctown]

I mean, I'm not certain which players are my teammates, but I don't know any cleaner phrasing for the acknowledgement that so many people declined to agree with my case that several have to be town.

Sujimichi is on you for different reasons so even if I think you're scum the majority of cases where she's town the lack of corroboration on my reasoning itself still holds

Last time I remember someone joining a tunnel but not cosigning any of my reasons it was scum helping me cause a mislynch.

[Auro]

I was hoping you wouldn't intercept that question, Pops
Question still stands, first to Suji.

[Klick]

One thing to point out: how much have you played with CheekyTeeky? Because, like, usually it's beyond absurd to think a player would shoot themselves. But like.. it's CheekyTeeky. She could do anything. I assumed maybe ML has some familiarity with CT that made it seem less impossible.

I've only semi-watched Cheeky play White Flag, and that's it. I wasn't aware she had a meta of making insane plays like that. Thanks for the context.

[Klick]

ML of all slots is like actively dumb to wagon right now? Which makes for a fat grouping of question marks I want to bin as town.

Talk to me about this, both parts

[Sujimichi]

But still I think it's not nothing that my teammates didn't see enough in my piece to carry the torch the next mile on this, which is a reason to be less confident.

The phrasing here strikes me weirdly, too!

Suji, does this look odd to you? If so, can you tell me why?

No. However, I assume you are referring to her use of the word “teammates.”

[Klick]

What comes to mind first. Go.

CSF/TSE/Suji?

What would the theory be behind TSE bussing Suji today (and Suji similarly gearing up for a CFS lynch)?

[Chemist1422]

What comes to mind first. Go.

CSF/TSE/Suji?

What would the theory be behind TSE bussing Suji today (and Suji similarly gearing up for a CFS lynch)?

From what I read neither has the other as their preferred lynch today so in a situation where bussing is not necessary but hard to work around without doing, it's definitely plausible

[Sujimichi]

I have explicitly stated that Cat Scratch Fever is my preferred lynch for today.

[Chemist1422]

Well then it's a good thing the game isn't riding on what I read

[Auro]

From what I read neither has the other as their preferred lynch today

Spoiler: sure

More like they acted like this in their last scum game.

When you say "like this" can you go into specifics if possible?
Do you have a towngame of theirs to compare?

No.
That’s why I’m more confident on Suji flipping Mafia now compared to Blood Wiplasher.
Because I can compare Suji but not Blood Wiplasher.

The only game I was in with Blood Wiplasher they were third party scum.

We win once Auro/CSF/Klick

All acknowledge each other as Town.

And vote Suji with me.

Auto realizes it.
I need to make sure Klick and CSF do too.

As I think PoE wise Suji never flips Town here.

@TSE: I understand your worry about ML and she's my weakest townread; BUT, every scumlynch affords us an extra mislynch because the setup is nightless. If we're 4T vs 3S, a scum lynch brings it to 4T vs 2S - you can lynch a townslot after that and not lose the game. Right now, though, it's important to get a correct scum lynch!

That’s why my votes on Suji.