AaronFrost's Mini Normal Review, February 2020

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Here is my proposed setup

Mafia Tracker Enabler
Mafia 1-Shot Ninja
Mafia Goon

Town Odd-Night Tracker
Town Even-Night Gunsmith
Town Night 2 Vigilante
Town 2-Shot Roleblocker
VT x 6

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Primary: mastina
Secondary: schadd_

[AaronFrost]

Hi this is my first time designing a setup so go easy on me

[schadd_]

this looks a little bit scumsided but not by a particularly bad margin. i generally wince at ninjas but i don't think it's that bad here since it's very unlikely for it to be a strong false negative - the ninja can't be the last one alive while the tracker works. i would pass the setup as is but would pass it happily with either the gunsmith or the vigilante gated a little bit less (e.g. vig -> odd night or gunsmith -> 2-shot or some such)

[mastina]

I echo schadd's sentiment--I'd say the setup is pretty runnable as-is, but would call it slightly scumsided. Perfect balance would be 50-50 town-scum, and this would be about I'd say ~42.5-57.5 town-scum. (We allow for about 10%, so that's within the acceptable cutoff albeit not by much.)

If you wanted a more perfectly balanced setup, my recommendation would be to either remove the ninja and turn it into a goon, or to lessen the gates on one or two of the town roles. (E.g. Novice Vig, which if it is too strong can be gated to Novice Nonconsecutive Vig, as a role that still is heavily encouraged to shoot N2 and couldn't immediately shoot N4 but would have more shots than just N2).

[AaronFrost]

Yeah I kept going back and forth on how heavily I wanted to gate the vig. Definitely want this to be as balanced as possible and I like Novice Non-Consecutive for the vig.

[AaronFrost]

I thought the ninja was fine here since, like schadd said, if they're the last scum alive, then the tracker can't do anything anyways + it's 1-shot so scum might feel incentive to use it early.

[AaronFrost]

If you guys are happy with that though then I'll start making the Role PMs

[schadd_]

good with novice non consecutive

[mastina]

good with novice non consecutive

Yep.
So, just need the roles and such.

[AaronFrost]

Alright I'll begin working on the Role PMs

[AaronFrost]

Setup

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Mafia Tracker Enabler

-

Mafia 1-Shot Ninja

-

Mafia Goon

-

Town Odd-Night Tracker

-

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

-

Town Novice Non-Consecutive Vigilante

-

Town 2-Shot Roleblocker

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

Vanilla Townie

Welcome Someone, you are a

Vanilla Townie

Abilities

- You have no special abilities besides your voice and vote.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town Odd-Night Tracker

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town Odd-Night Tracker

Abilities

- At night you may target someone and learn who they visited during the night, but not what they did.
- You may only act on odd-numbered nights.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

Abilities

- At night, you may target someone and learn whether they have a gun, or do not have a gun.
- You may only act on even-numbered nights.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town Novice Non-Consecutive Vigilante

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town Novice Non-Consecutive Vigilante

Abilities

- At night you may target one person and attempt to kill them.
- You cannot act on Night 1 and you cannot use your action two nights in a row.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town 2-Shot Roleblocker

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town 2-Shot Roleblocker

Abilities

- At night you may target one player and block them from using any actions.
- You can only use this ability twice.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Mafia Goon

Welcome Someone, you are a

Mafia Goon

Abilities

- Your partners are

Partner A

and

Partner B

. You may talk to them any time HERE.
- Each night you and your partners may send one of you to attempt to kill another player.

Win Condition

- You win when you and your team control 50% of the vote or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia 1-Shot Ninja

Welcome Someone, you are a

Mafia 1-Shot Ninja

Abilities

- Your partners are

Partner A

and

Partner B

. You may talk to them any time HERE.
- Each night you and your partners may send one of you to attempt to kill another player.
- One time only, you may perform the kill in such a way that you will not be seen by motion detecting roles.

Win Condition

- You win when you and your team control 50% of the vote or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Tracker Enabler

Welcome Someone, you are a

Mafia Tracker Enabler

Abilities

- Your partners are

Partner A

and

Partner B

. You may talk to them any time HERE.
- Each night you and your partners may send one of you to attempt to kill another player.
- If you die at any point, any trackers that exist will have their ability disabled.

Win Condition

- You win when you and your team control 50% of the vote or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[mastina]

One time only, you may perform the kill in such a way that you will not be seen by motion detecting roles.

This would not be the best of wording. I'd recommend changing "motion detecting roles" to the proper term used on the wiki, of 'action investigating roles'. (Trackers, Watchers, Motion Detectors, Followers, and Voyeurs are all action investigation roles.)

Other than that, the role PMs look good, but I'd also like to see you type out the possible results for each role to make sure they're good there, too.

[schadd_]

i wonder if ninja should do anything with detective + psychologist

[AaronFrost]

Made the changes

Setup

-

Mafia Tracker Enabler

-

Mafia 1-Shot Ninja

-

Mafia Goon

-

Town Odd-Night Tracker

-

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

-

Town Novice Non-Consecutive Vigilante

-

Town 2-Shot Roleblocker

-

Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

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Vanilla Townie

Vanilla Townie

Welcome Someone, you are a

Vanilla Townie

Abilities

- You have no special abilities besides your voice and vote.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town Odd-Night Tracker

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town Odd-Night Tracker

Abilities

- At night you may target someone and learn who they visited during the night, but not what they did. You will receive results as "Player visited Other Player," "Player visited no one," or "Action failed, you received no result."
- You may only act on odd-numbered nights.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

Abilities

- At night, you may target someone and learn whether they have a gun, or do not have a gun. You will receive results as "Player has a gun," "Player does not have a gun," or "Action failed, you received no result."
- You may only act on even-numbered nights.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town Novice Non-Consecutive Vigilante

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town Novice Non-Consecutive Vigilante

Abilities

- At night you may target one person and attempt to kill them.
- You cannot act on Night 1 and you cannot use your action two nights in a row.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Town 2-Shot Roleblocker

Welcome Someone, you are a

Town 2-Shot Roleblocker

Abilities

- At night you may target one player and block them from using any actions.
- You can only use this ability twice.

Win Condition

- You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is alive.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment

Mafia Goon

Welcome Someone, you are a

Mafia Goon

Abilities

- Your partners are

Partner A

and

Partner B

. You may talk to them any time HERE.
- Each night you and your partners may send one of you to attempt to kill another player.

Win Condition

- You win when you and your team control 50% of the vote or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia 1-Shot Ninja

Welcome Someone, you are a

Mafia 1-Shot Ninja

Abilities

- Your partners are

Partner A

and

Partner B

. You may talk to them any time HERE.
- Each night you and your partners may send one of you to attempt to kill another player.
- One time only, you may perform the kill in such a way that you will not be seen by action investigating roles.

Win Condition

- You win when you and your team control 50% of the vote or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Tracker Enabler

Welcome Someone, you are a

Mafia Tracker Enabler

Abilities

- Your partners are

Partner A

and

Partner B

. You may talk to them any time HERE.
- Each night you and your partners may send one of you to attempt to kill another player.
- If you die at any point, any trackers that exist will have their ability disabled.

Win Condition

- You win when you and your team control 50% of the vote or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by replying to this message with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[mastina]

That looks good to me.
/pass.

[schadd_]

pass

[AaronFrost]

Cool cool, thanks for reviewing this

[AaronFrost]

This should be entering signups soon yeah?

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it is now.