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[popsofctown]

cerraron is probably an adjective that describes everything I do.
I was clearly asking for clarification on the unclear comment you made about it earlier, using a rhetorical question to pretend I asked because I'm self-conscious about my play doesn't seem like a goodfaithy effective way of sorting me

[Wooper]

I'm like really struggling to get a read on Looker and they have cringey associatives with pops who I think is pretty decently likely to flip scum and Ame who my read on is trending downwards

can someone hold my hand thru this or smthn

[Wooper]

sorry if you are she/her looker I've seen people calling you those but there's no pronouns on your profile and I may he accidentally smooshing you with someone else in my head. lmk if you have a preference

[popsofctown]

Best townreads I think is Implo, Elmo, STRQ, I have a fourth I'd put at a similar level of certainty but you seemed very serious about this no more no less thing.
Two scumreads is Wooper and Amrun.
I realized on trying to fulfill this request that I really feel like I could roll a d3 on Amrun vs. S_S vs. Ame
If Wooper is d1 lynchproof that's not something to be happy with and I think I might reread this game or half of it.

[popsofctown]

Wooper I am trying to stay open to flips indicating my initial read is instead of funneling new information into pre-flip association paradigms and if you are town I ask that you please do the same
Goal #1 is to send a scum to hell

[popsofctown]

rb because he called me a girl and Frank because his name is beautiful. PenguinPower because his name is green. You're not better than the rest of us, Penguin.

Think you're probably o.k. Wooper

[Wooper]

I'm very wary of that, this stuff filters through my mind regardless
I'm just seeing a lot of hard Looker townread and I'm like
all the information I've digested about him makes me think he's more likely red than green
lol

[popsofctown]

Elmo, do you enjoy playing town or scum more?

[Looker]

If there would be bias to be had, that's not the direction of bias I'd expect from a played who dislikes my font and lost their last game to me due to getting hardguiltied from one of the setup's excessively plentiful TPR's

So many power roles

Ame, what does looker's scum game look like exactly?

-Summer

I don't think that game counted. AaronFrost claimed scum D1 and fucked us.

Actually it could depend on if we hit scum today. If we hit hit town today then it's less harmful to send scum to heaven; if we hit scum today we DEFINITELY want to send town to heaven, because we won't be hitting a judgment day any time soon and we want as many scum left as possible to send to hell.

I have to relinquish setup spec to my townreads (pops, implosion and Wooper) because I'm shit at it.

rb because he called me a girl and Frank because his name is beautiful. PenguinPower because his name is green. You're not better than the rest of us, Penguin.

Think you're probably o.k. Wooper

That's cute.

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• @Something_Smart: What is TMI?
  
• {Amrun / Elmo Teh Azn} and Team STRQ vs Popsofctown, implosion, and Wooper
  
• @Wooper: I was asking your opinion, but that's okay. I guess you're only okay with reading me?

[popsofctown]

VOTE: implosion

implo seems really townie before this vote onto him

Danni flor do you want to discuss your opinion on the balance of this setup

He never responded to this! Isn't that sad and surprising?

This is a new 4p hydra. I'm familiar with playing with my other 3 heads in OTHER hydrae, but not altogether.

So we're a bit messy as all 4 of us each have playstyles that are a bit different from each other.

I'm kind of waiting for all my heads to start giving out thoughts and reading more critically, but I'm open to answering questions you have. I can speak for myself.

This is my issue and it's nothing personal. I've been with 2 headed hydra before.

I'm low activity I can fix that but I can't promise how well the posts will read as well.

STRQ Does bring a good point up in 93 about town blocs. Amrun is reading town. I really don't like 94 from pops it just feels sorta forced like here's my vote and I don't have much reason because I town read the other

This is another one of those "Elmo posts I should be able to soulread and feel ashamed if I don't" but the third time reading it I feel like the self-spotlighting on her post quality is town indicative.

It's kind of a town indicative thought to occur, because if she's posting more than she naturally would to appease requests, the excess ones beyond the ones she would have normally posted are the ones that are going to be lower quality.
If she is scum and is not one of the sickos who loves being scum, most or all of her posts will be ones she wouldn't have made anyway, it exposes you to post more as scum, so it would still be a burden she would whine about but it'd be a different whine, it wouldn't be a natural expectation that the additional posts have reduced quality.

Comfortable with being lynched for it, but I need PKP (or their replacement) to post at least once before I take this game seriously. Consider it a safeguard against lurkscum.

I agree with this being a towntelly post but not something super super hard to produce BUT Looker doesn't have a great scumrange IMO sorry to shade you Looker but it's relevant to the game. He struggled to produce anything that looked townesque at all last I played with him.

Looker I scumlean - he seems more disengaged than usual.

I have played with Looker before. He marches to the beat of his own drummer.

That's very sweet of you to try to remember me.

Looker come on man. 4 posts in 4ish pages and you have said. Not much if anything at all... What's going on

Why didin't you notice Phi Kappa Phi?

this is uh, probably a townpost?

Don't waste your time; it's NAI. I do it as either town or scum because I hate lurky players.

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• @Homura:
  You
  diverted onto PKP
  • Also, I've played mafia before, and I know how opportunism works (case in point, your vote); however, I will be stealing "refuge in audacity" as a damning concept from now on, so thank you

VOTE: Elmo Teh Azn Let's destroy Amrun's spirits

One thing I haven't mentioned because it is shamefully weak sauce but I'm gonna say it, Looker didn't care to format any of his posts in his scumgame


I'm on like page 10, I'm stopping for now

[Wooper]

@Wooper: I was asking your opinion, but that's okay. I guess you're only okay with reading me?

I think my read on all of those slots is transparent as fuck and would rather be asked some kind of advancing question on them than be asked for my read again

I'm like mobile bound and quite busy at the moment so my patience is very low

Kinda particularly vexed at being asked for an Amrun read given I've been pretty vocal about preferring to defer it

[Looker]

Oh, so mad, I care so much.

[Something_Smart]

@Something_Smart: What is TMI?

Too much information. In this context it means scum being too confident in a read because they know it is true.

[Amrun]

I was expecting a counteroffensive from Amrun

What does this mean? Why do you think this hasn’t happened? What do you think it means about my alignment? Do you care that I’m voting team strq?

[Amrun]

For I think Ame’s question, my top three townreads are {Elmo, S_S, pops}. Pops is wavering a bit lately but still too 3. My top two scumreads are {wooper, team strq}. I believe this argument is TVS but I’m not sure which side is scum. Initially I thought team strq but now I’m leaning wooper.

I’m uncomfortable that wooper goes after me, and all I do is challenge him to show how my play is scum motivated, and he immediately backs down. That weirds me the fuck out.


Pops... I know you’re voting me, but what if we make your dream wagon real?

VOTE: wooper

[popsofctown]

VOTE: Wooper

[popsofctown]

Doesn't apply to me, sadly.

Fair enough.

S_S, can you explain why you responded to Homura the way you did here?
Isn't it pretty straightforward that both alignments of Homura are going to say greeting tell doesn't apply to her?

[Ame]

I did it! Sorry ya'll I'm a slow reader.

I change my mind on Elmo. Also she has some uncanny similarities to osieorb, but osie likes hydras.

What is QED, rhino,

chicken sexer

, and moonlogic (you explained it here, but I still don't quite get it). There were a couple of other terms I wasn't aware of but I've forgotten.

I'm going to take a break and then post thoughts/responses in a bit.

[Something_Smart]

S_S, can you explain why you responded to Homura the way you did here?
Isn't it pretty straightforward that both alignments of Homura are going to say greeting tell doesn't apply to her?

I interpreted that post as claiming not to be a newbie.

[popsofctown]

Moonlogic is logic with bizarre steps that don't make sense and seem like they would come from someone coming out of anesthesia or something. Should not be confused with shrewdly leveraging logical fallacies that are known to be confusing.

QED are the initials of a latin phrase that I've forgotten, that essentially means, "and so, I have proven this thing". It is traditionally used at the end of mathematical proofs. If a proof has missing steps that need to be written later, you don't write QED, QED constitutes a strong statement about what's above it.

[popsofctown]

That's not what the post says, S_S, did Homura share she wasn't a newbie in the scum PT to prime you to read into it that way?

Are you certain as of this moment that she's a newbie?

[Something_Smart]

I said the tell only applies to newbies, and pointedly asked if she was a newbie. She said the tell doesn't apply to her. I really don't see what's unclear about that.

[implosion]

i am somewhat bored x:

[popsofctown]

Or it might hold for newbies in newbie games specifically.

It was far from clear that the only quality that might make the greeting tell invalid was being a newbie.
Homura could be a newbie and simply feel it doesn't apply to her.
I just looked up her posting history, it is exactly that, she's literally a newbie who hasn't played enough to shake the "Goon" title and has played in Road to Rome which is banned for alts.

[Dannflor]

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