Newbie 1989 (Game over!)

Datisi · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:15 am

Newbie 1989

Moderator:

Datisi

|

Backup Moderator:

Ausuka

Player List:

Jormengand
Lotus Aura, EqsyLootz*
BP
EVO, Doobietime
clidd
*
72offsuit
* mythus
Atarashi Hajimari
adamdf97
WizenedWalrus
** stormey815
Elmo TeH AzN (SE)
Karnage (SE)
GuiltyLion, Menalque
Iconeum (SE)*

*denotes prod

Alive:

Spoiler: (2/9)

Dead:

Spoiler: (7/9)

Events:

Spoiler: Pregame

Spoiler: Day 1

Spoiler: Day 2

Spoiler: Day 3

Spoiler: Day 4

Spoiler: VC settings

Datisi · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:19 am

Rules

Shamelessly stolen

Inspired by Plotinus's ruleset.

important bit

Day 1: up to 10 days, Day 2+ up to 7 days, Night: 48 hours.
Majority lynches.
36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement.
Bah posts allowed. (limit: 1, free of game related content)
Don’t be a dick.

Follow all site rules.
Mod colour
– My mod colour is
teal
. You can use it if you want, just don't attempt to impersonate me.
Behaviour
- Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself lynched if you try it.
Don't talk about ongoing games
- You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
Provable randomness
- is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
Cryptography
- is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
Confirmation
- You have about 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
Days
- Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may or may not be granted if there are replacements, or if the circumstances call for it (for example, if the site was experiencing issues).
Activity
- You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
Vacation/Limited Access
- If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
V/LA
in bold in the thread like this: [
b]
@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
[
/b]. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 60 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
Prodging
- A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
Quoting
- You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
Voting
- Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Datisi or
Vote: Datisi
. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
v]Datisi[
/v] to vote and [
uv]Datisi[
/uv] to unvote.
Lynching
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no lynch, the day will end without a lynch. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no lynch.
Twilight
- Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
Night
- Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
Action submissions
- You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
Reminders
- If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
Notes PT
- Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
Play to win
- this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

Datisi · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:24 am

Setup Information

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's

Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that PLAYER NAME is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a

Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a

Mafia Goon

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a

Mafia Goon

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Datisi · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:26 am

Introduction and Tips

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in Plotinus' original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers

L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo

LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

Datisi · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:24 am

All role PMs have been sent out (in the order of the signup list so timestamps mean nothing)! We will start in (expired on 2020-03-04 18:24:19) or when [8/9] people have confirmed, whichever happens sooner.

The above clock and any others used throughout this game will be accurate from the time you loaded the page.

Datisi · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:36 am

I currently have only 5 out of 9 confirmations.

Doobietime, 72offsuit, and Atarashi Hajimari replace EVO, mythus, adamdf97, and these new players have (expired on 2020-03-06 18:35:07) to confirm their role before getting replaced. I am also looking for a replacement for stromey815.

We will begin once I get 2 more confirmations.

Datisi · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:31 pm

With 7 out of 9 confirmations, the sun rises. It is now Day 1.

Official Vote Count 1.00With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

Everybody

(0): Nobody

Not Voting

(9): Lotus Aura, Doobietime, clidd, 72offsuit, Atarashi Hajimari, stormey815, Elmo TeH AzN, GuiltyLion, Iconeum

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-15 01:30:00).

Mod notes:

72offsuit has another (expired on 2020-03-06 18:35:07) to confirm before I look for a replacement.
Looking for a replacement for stormey815.
Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.

Atarashi Hajimari · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:19 pm

VOTE: clidd hello there

Doobietime · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:30 pm

Hey! Didn't want to be first poster :') this is my very first mafia game of any format- so apologies in advance. I accidentally found myself here after a crazy game was started in the forums of a different game I play.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:41 pm

hello Doobietime, welcome! You should get an avatar for your profile when you have a minute, it'll make it easier to remember your posts

VOTE: Iconeum
did you roll scum this time?

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:07 pm

Vote: Doobietime

Welcome have a vote.

So the lion is guilty. Interesting.

Iconeum · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:05 pm

In post 9, GuiltyLion wrote:hello Doobietime, welcome! You should get an avatar for your profile when you have a minute, it'll make it easier to remember your posts

VOTE: Iconeum
did you roll scum this time?

outragious accusations

Iconeum · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:05 pm

In post 8, Doobietime wrote:Hey! Didn't want to be first poster :') this is my very first mafia game of any format- so apologies in advance. I accidentally found myself here after a crazy game was started in the forums of a different game I play.

hiya

if you have any questions, just ask

otherwise, go lynch some scum!

72offsuit · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:21 pm

Greetings Earthlings.

VOTE: Lotus

Anyone with such a peaceful name is surely a sheep in wolf''s clothing.

72offsuit · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:25 pm

In post 8, Doobietime wrote:Hey! Didn't want to be first poster :') this is my very first mafia game of any format- so apologies in advance. I accidentally found myself here after a crazy game was started in the forums of a different game I play.

Welcome doobie

It would be really great if you could find an image to have as an avatar.
It helps with player identification, especially later on when all the posts kind of meld into each other.
Just find a small image size on google, and in your user control panel, upload the image as your avatar.

If you are town, the best thing you can do is be active, but try and post meaningful posts where you are analysing others player's posts and trying to determine the motivation behind them.
Do they sound like mafia with the motive of going for an easy lynch of a helpless townie? Do they sound like they are a townie genuinely trying to poke and prod to solve the game?

If you are scum, I have a nice and comfy appropriately sized noose <3

72offsuit · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:26 pm

In post 8, Doobietime wrote:Hey! Didn't want to be first poster :') this is my very first mafia game of any format- so apologies in advance. I accidentally found myself here after a crazy game was started in the forums of a different game I play.

Why didn't you want to be the first poster?

72offsuit · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:27 pm

In post 9, GuiltyLion wrote:hello Doobietime, welcome! You should get an avatar for your profile when you have a minute, it'll make it easier to remember your posts

VOTE: Iconeum
did you roll scum this time?

'
Wow, fail didnt see this post in my rush to post lol

Lotus Aura · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:15 pm

Ah, I see the spirit of everyone's good friend Juste Poaste is alive and well.

Got a confession right there in his name, so VOTE: GuiltyLion

Lotus Aura · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:21 pm

A bit more seriously is that Doobie straight up admitted this was her first game ever, and that's pretty cool. Dunno 'bout the rest of ya, but I'm not gonna vote for her during D1 unless she does something super scummy at any point. Just so she can actually play the game a bit, y'know?

Atarashi Hajimari · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:26 pm

In post 18, Lotus Aura wrote:A bit more seriously is that Doobie straight up admitted this was her first game ever, and that's pretty cool. Dunno 'bout the rest of ya, but I'm not gonna vote for her during D1 unless she does something super scummy at any point. Just so she can actually play the game a bit, y'know?

Given this statement, what's your opinion of azn?

Atarashi Hajimari · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:29 pm

So far iconeum and Doobie have been the only two to not throw out a rvs vote on their first post.

Iconeum · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:32 pm

In post 17, Lotus Aura wrote:Got a confession right there in his name, so VOTE: GuiltyLion

i wonder what the hit rate on this pun is

probably pretty high

Iconeum · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:37 pm

In post 20, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:So far iconeum and Doobie have been the only two to not throw out a rvs vote on their first post.

and what do you conclude from this?

Iconeum · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:37 pm

In post 18, Lotus Aura wrote:Dunno 'bout the rest of ya, but I'm not gonna vote for her during D1 unless she does something super scummy at any point. Just so she can actually play the game a bit, y'know?

you haven't played this game if you haven't felled that noose closing in around your neck so yeah, i'm probably gonna vote there at some point

Datisi · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:44 pm