Open 774 || Purgatory — Game Over

Wooper · Post Post #850 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:58 am

In post 848, Team STRQ wrote:like I don't get why you would do this as town dude

I see your reads and tbh I have doubts, I feel like I vibe with you on Ame

right back atcha

Wooper · Post Post #851 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:59 am

ugh the tension

Team STRQ · Post Post #852 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:59 am

:/

-Q

Wooper · Post Post #853 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:59 am

no hammer = strq scum

Wooper · Post Post #854 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:59 am

whatever I tried

Wooper · Post Post #855 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:59 am

go town

Dannflor · Post Post #856 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:04 am

VC 1.FINAL.HELL

Devil or Angel?

[4] Wooper

:

Amrun, popsofctown, Elmo Teh AzN, Team STRQ

<<< JUDGEMENT

[4] Amrun

:

implosion, Looker, Wooper, Ame

[1] Team STRQ

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Something_Smart

[0] Not Voting

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With 9 in limbo, it takes 5 votes to judge.

The Hell Phase I deadline is in

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Has expired.

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Dannflor · Post Post #857 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:07 am

The circle of flame is getting closer now, tighter. You are close enough with each other now to make out the expressions of fear, confidence, and confusion that mask each person's face alternately. The heat is becoming dangerous, and you're relieved to find you can still sweat even in the afterlife. It is time. Time to cast the final votes. You hold a soul's fate in your hands.

The votes start coming in. One name seems prevalent above the rest.

Is this really what you all want?

Wooper shakes his head. He looks around, close enough to stare deeply into your eyes. It’s almost unsettling how calm he is, how absent his voice is of any shakiness. Is he not afraid of Hell? You avert your gaze. The fire behind his eyes is blazing, piercing, arresting. Then, his face softens.

Anyone having second thoughts?

No one withdraws their vote.

Alright, then. Try to damn sinners from now on, eh?

With a rush of directionless wind, the flames burn even brighter, reaching up to glorious twenty foot heights of death. Despite this, a chill settles over the group. A decision has been made.

Ah, fuck this dust.

It starts with his shoes, just as it had with Homura. Dust flies up, encircling him and almost obscuring Wooper from vision. He is departing, but not all at once.

Goodbye.

Before the dust can claim his feet, Wooper steps towards the fire, his back turned to you. A trail of ash follows in his wake. Then, he steps into the wall of flame, leaving his last words to echo across empty air.

I’m disappointed in you all.

Dannflor · Post Post #858 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:08 am

Wooper,

Vanilla Townie

, has been damned to Hell.

Dannflor · Post Post #859 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:08 pm

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Dannflor · Post Post #860 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:12 pm

VC 2.0.HEAVEN

Stairway to Heaven

[8] Not Voting

:

Looker, Elmo TeH AzN, Ame, Team STRQ, Amrun, implosion, popsofctown, Something_Smart

With 8 in limbo, it takes 5 votes to judge.

The Heaven Phase I deadline is in

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(expired on 2020-03-12 20:12:15)

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Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #861 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:36 pm

Whooper I'm sorry.
Now crap. I can't vote any of my reads.
And to anyone knowing I was asleep at deadline. Perks of working nights. I have like 5 pages to read up on.

Amrun · Post Post #862 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:41 pm

VOTE: S_S

S_S had no motivation as scum to try and derail two dueling town wagons. He’s my strongest townread now.

ISO · Post Post #863 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:44 pm

I almost opened the day self-voting for heaven but I would like to take it a little slower than that. Besides, I think the idea of using the first heaven on a question mark and saving me for a later one has merit.

ISO · Post Post #864 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:45 pm

Also, I'm absolutely terrified of having to do the inevitable judgement day by myself, if that happens.

Amrun · Post Post #865 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:45 pm

In post 863, Something_Smart wrote:I almost opened the day self-voting for heaven but I would like to take it a little slower than that. Besides, I think the idea of using the first heaven on a question mark and saving me for a later one has merit.

This is true. I kinda forgot this strat but it makes sense.

ISO · Post Post #866 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:26 pm

i am slightly livid.

ISO · Post Post #867 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:31 pm

How does one be slightly...

Never mind.

ISO · Post Post #868 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:36 pm

@Amrun: I'm not trying to dissuade you from engaging with the game or anything. Your responses just don't do anything to assuage my scumread on you. The responses are certainly logically valid, but they don't really disarm the underlying reasons for my reads, such as the way you're interacting with the thread, the way your reads have been forming and the specific questions you've been choosing to ask relative to those reads, and so on.

@Not-Amrun: if I'm right that Amrun is scum, it is essentially a guarantee of at most 1 scum on the Amrun wagon. This would be Ame or no one. In particular this is making me somewhat re-evaluate my Ame read, but it's still entirely Ame is just the scum off the Wooper wagon and that two were on it.

I really do think the Wooper wagon was atrocious. I really don't know how a town sensibly comes to the decision to go with him here. I should have fought it harder so I'm not really *complaining* per se. But right now It's more than a little tempting to just condemn the whole wagon sans Elmo. It would surprise me if there aren't 2-3 scum on it; if Amrun is town then this goes out the window a bit but right now an Amrun townflip would be tantamount to needing to rethink the whole game for me right now.

ISO · Post Post #869 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:41 pm

The candidates to heaven for me right now would be:

-Elmo. This is sort of the default decision to me because if Elmo is scum then we absolutely need to know it now IMO for wagon analysis, and if not then well, town.
-Me. I am more or less fine with this if people want it.
-uhhhh.... looker??? idk who else i really would want to.

I'm not interested in S_S for reasons previously mentioned. He's the only one off the wagons which is essentially meaningless to his alignment, so a flip on him would actually be useful! So maybe, idk.

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #870 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:43 pm

Let's look at it this way. We choose right for heaven. We mess up tomorrow. We then have up rely on the person in heaven to choose right on a 50% chance if I'm doing math right. This is going to be a very hard day.

ISO · Post Post #871 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:49 pm

In post 848, Team STRQ wrote:Wooper this is what I don't get

You agreed with me on pops all day

Then when we're like consolidating on amrun you're like

"hey let's pick a fight with STRQ"

like I don't get why you would do this as town dude

I see your reads and tbh I have doubts, I feel like I vibe with you on Ame

but wtf is with your play here?

-Q

This is such an awful post to make 4 minutes before deadline when you're claiming to be fighting with another head over whether to hammer Wooper. Like, what the fuck is this actually.

How is this how you treat a slot that you are condemning to death? How do you think that picking a random fight with someone is *SCUM*-indicative when someone is about to die??? How the hell is that scum-indicative??? How do you see someone picking a random fight with someone as they're about to die and say "oh, there's no way town has incentive to do this, but it makes total sense for scum to"???

ISO · Post Post #872 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:51 pm

Another note - I felt like there was so, SO, so much resistance to the Amrun wagon. Like the entire time.

ISO · Post Post #873 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:54 pm

The trick is to just not mess up tomorrow!!!

I actually really feel like this game is at the stage where it is nearly fully solvable.

Elmo is obvtown. Looker is obvtown. People generally seem to trust I'm town.

If those are all correct then like, we're basically almost there. I'm basically happy to just litigate further to be more sold on those two people being in the realm of "never kill these people" and then just moving on to PoE from there. Like, imagine we had 3 innocent children in this situation - we'd have a (i think?) guaranteed winning strategy by heavening someone outside of those 3 and then just helling the other 4 non-ICs one at a time.

ISO · Post Post #874 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:56 pm

I actually kind of feel like I should have gotten something more town-indicative from town-S_S at this point, maybe. I could be totally wrong about that but I feel like I might be nearing a sort of immaterial deadline by which I need to call him scummy if I haven't sorted him as town. I'm not claiming to be good at reading him per se, I just feel like I should have sorted him by now. Hopefully he says something useful in response to this.