Newbie 1989 (Game over!)

[Menalque]

Idk simultaneously he’s scummy because the last time he shitpushed me this opportunistically he was scum

But I don’t think scum him claims masons with his buddy to get me lynched?

i tend to shitpush as scum, yeah

but this is a straight out CC to you here, nothing shitty about it

No, it’s a shitpush

If you were actually thinking clearly and evaluating, you’d see I’m town

There was no motivation for scum!me to claim masons

particularly not masons

on D1 in my opening salvo of posts

[Menalque]

i literally gave you the option to withdraw and you didn't

you brought this upon yourself

Yes because at that point you’d already outed yourself and I was trying to give you the chance to realise what I was doing and to go with it so you wouldn’t be locked as the NK tonight

[Menalque]

Imagine thinking that this is my scumgame

[Menalque]

What exactly is my plan here icon?

[Menalque]

Trade scum 1 for 1 for a town PR?

[Iconeum]

Imagine thinking that this is my scumgame

imagine fake claiming a power role in a newbie game on day 1 in one of your first posts as town

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Not to be a bitch. But can you not refer to me as a he. Kthx. Trivial but it's really just getting under my skin.

[Menalque]

That’s a pretty shitty deal, especially as you know that scum!me would be counting on myself to carry the game not sacrificing myself D1

[Menalque]

Not to be a bitch. But can you not refer to me as a he. Kthx. Trivial but it's really just getting under my skin.

Ahhh, fuck, sorry. I’m normally better with pronouns. I’ll be more careful

[Menalque]

Imagine thinking that this is my scumgame

imagine fake claiming a power role in a newbie game on day 1 in one of your first posts as town

PRECISELY BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU KNEW ME WELL ENOUGH TO REALISE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD DO AS SCUM

[Iconeum]

What exactly is my plan here icon?

i've really wondered about this

scum!you draws out the real claim, and then does exactly what you are doing now: playing the victim. Making it the power role's fault for not playing along.

town!you fake claims to draw a NK? No. Town!you plans on staying alive and solving/winning this game because you think u can do better for town then simply eating a bullet at night.
And if ur plan was to eat a bullet, you wouldn't claim a PR. You would obv!town like crazy so scum would have to kill you.

[Menalque]

Why did I do it?

(1) I had the idea from pure boi doing it with me in a game that just finished — clidd can confirm

(2) I felt like it, and I don’t need to offer more justification than that

[Iconeum]

PRECISELY BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU KNEW ME WELL ENOUGH TO REALISE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD DO AS SCUM

i would actually argue that I think i know you well enough that you wouldn't do this as town

[Menalque]

“You’d obvtown like crazy”

What like I’m doing now you mean

[Menalque]

PRECISELY BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU KNEW ME WELL ENOUGH TO REALISE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD DO AS SCUM

i would actually argue that I think i know you well enough that you wouldn't do this as town

#town!mena.never.does.that

[Iconeum]

(2) I felt like it, and I don’t need to offer more justification than that

agreed, and i even gave you a window there when i said there was exactly 1 reason that i could see town!menal doing this

feeling like it/shitposting/having fun whatever

and when i called you out and you would have answered this i'd have townread you for it

but you kept insisting and i think it comes from scum more then town

[Iconeum]

“You’d obvtown like crazy”

What like I’m doing now you mean

ah yes obvtowning so hard that you make me wanna lynch you on the spot

[Menalque]

What exactly is my plan here icon?

i've really wondered about this

scum!you draws out the real claim, and then does exactly what you are doing now: playing the victim. Making it the power role's fault for not playing along.

town!you fake claims to draw a NK? No. Town!you plans on staying alive and solving/winning this game because you think u can do better for town then simply eating a bullet at night.
And if ur plan was to eat a bullet, you wouldn't claim a PR. You would obv!town like crazy so scum would have to kill you.

How does me believing the game to be PoE solvable D1 affect this

[Menalque]

(2) I felt like it, and I don’t need to offer more justification than that

agreed, and i even gave you a window there when i said there was exactly 1 reason that i could see town!menal doing this

feeling like it/shitposting/having fun whatever

and when i called you out and you would have answered this i'd have townread you for it

but you kept insisting and i think it comes from scum more then town

Yes, because I was hoping you’d realise what I was doing and go with it so I wouldn’t have to talk to you like this now and out you as the real PR

[Iconeum]

as said before, this is very early in teh day and i don't actually want it to end plus i'm away for the weekend

UNVOTE:

don't take this as me not wanting menal for lynch, but i want to see all players post more and get more reads before ending the day, for which we have PLENTY of time

[Menalque]

Also, scum!me would already know you were the PR by that point? So why would I not just recant and then NK you

[Iconeum]

Yes, because I was hoping you’d realise what I was doing and go with it so I wouldn’t have to talk to you like this now and out you as the real PR

i mean, if you don't wanna out power roles

maybe like

don't fake claim one?

especially in a newbie game where there are more inexperienced players then experienced ones? it was ++likely that someone would counterclaim you anyway

you bring forth argumentation that i should know better and that may be so, but what if *anyone else* with less experience with you was a power role?

[Iconeum]

you think newbies are gonna see what you are doing and play along?

no

you would destroy a newbie power role player for no reason other then shenanigans

[Iconeum]

i really don't know what you were trying to achieve menal

if any of the new players were a power role, they wouldn't know what to do

they'd have to either fish something like 'ehm guys should the actual pr counterclaim if there is one hahahah gettit hmm?'
or full blown counterclaim you resulting in this situation as well

there's not a lot of worlds where you achieve anything good from this

[Iconeum]

if ur actually town then this was out of place and lessons are hopefully learned

and ofcourse there's just a world where this is scum!you going for a big brain play