Gathering you don’t think much of my theory. I’m not too confident on it myself, since I feel I could just be jumping on town who didn’t want to play. Can you case Cheeky for me?In post 396, Titus wrote:players are encouraging pointless spam wall fights and ignoring the townies who say it needs to stop. Just saying.
Cheeky and Karnage are good votes.
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Tbf I didn't read your theory. I'm not sure a lot of people will engage comments in walls of texts. That's my point here. You jumping back and forth would make sense if you were just flat out tired of the yelling. Instead, your vote encourages them to keep fighting ignoring the game as a whole.In post 400, Homura wrote:
Gathering you don’t think much of my theory. I’m not too confident on it myself, since I feel I could just be jumping on town who didn’t want to play. Can you case Cheeky for me?In post 396, Titus wrote:players are encouraging pointless spam wall fights and ignoring the townies who say it needs to stop. Just saying.
Cheeky and Karnage are good votes.
Whatever your theory is, if you can't figure out why I am scumreading Cheeky and Karnage, then there ain't much helping you since it's like 75% of my ISO.
Since Non just unvoted Cheeky, my vote is the tiebreaker so back to Karnage.
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I'm just dropping this here for later use. The one thing I do want to point out as striking me as suspicious - among other things - is the following in conjunction:
Karnage says Phoenix is scum without giving a reason,
Phoenix has been called scum three times. His reactions to QQ and I were OMGUS and votes. He never addressed Karnage calling him scum. His case against me should apply to Karnage as well. A few posts later, Phoenix literally QUOTES the above post and ignores being read as a scum team while asking other players to explain their buddy reads,In post 99, Karnage wrote:I'm leaning town on Titus and TSE atm
tapioca and phoenix would be my guess for scum
everybody else is ???
The hypocrisy of trying to lynch two players for thinking he's scum and at the same time erasing somebody calling you scum as part of a buddy readIn post 110, Ph0enix wrote:Can the people who have provided reads/theories for scumteams and haven't explained the reasoning behind them do so :/
That would be:
Titus wrote: Theory, Karnage Cheeky scumteamTrueSoulEnergy wrote: I don’t think Cheeky is but I do think Karnage could be.
I think that's all. Also, I don't like how Karnage called out TSE in 98 for not providing reasoning behind his theory, but later he posts his townleans without us knowing why he feels this way about the particular people he's leaning town on.Karnage wrote:I'm leaning town on Titus and TSE atmin a post that you made for the purpose of questioning the buddy reads that have been made so faris truly impressive.
Finally, Karnage just randomly rereads Phoenix's iso and decides he's not scum after all, again without reasoning, immediately after Cheeky townreads Phoenix,
What is everyone's thoughts on Karnage + Phoenix as SvS?In post 128, Karnage wrote:
I went back and looked at ph0enix's ISO and I probably judged him too harshly for his reaction to QQ.In post 127, CheekyTeeky wrote:At this point I'm only townreading Phoneix and Tap. We need more wagons or something.
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Ok.
Now normally I’d Go Karnage but LL and Phoenix both share the same Playstyle.
(Main reason for my Phoenix read)
I’ve decided that I’d rather not both of them be here for Day 2.
It could cause unnecessary chaos regardless if TvT.
Take one of my newbies games for example.
Despite me being scum that was lynched Day 1. If I was Town and Luca and Koba were still town the game wouldn’t be favouring town.
Koba and Luca have similar play style.
So when they engaged and started to both scum read each other it created a bad environment that favours mafia.
Thus I don’t want a repeat of this as I got Town this game.
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TSE, are you scum? We literally kicked ass in a game where we didn't indulge this.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Which one? You V.S. Alisae?In post 404, Titus wrote:TSE, are you scum? We literally kicked ass in a game where we didn't indulge this.- Titus
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Which one? You V.S. Alisae?In post 404, Titus wrote:TSE, are you scum? We literally kicked ass in a game where we didn't indulge this.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If I didn't feel Phoenix was obvious town, I would totally think that was a possibility.In post 405, LuckyLuciano wrote:@Titus, what do you think about Karnage + Phoenix as scum?
I just feel this is nothing more than a shut people up lynch which rewards LL for making the game less readable.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Getting the mislynch you wantIn post 410, LuckyLuciano wrote:How am I rewarded for making the game less readable?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Do you scum read LL Titus?In post 411, Titus wrote:
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No. I townread both him and Phoenix. I am not rewarding bad town play unless given no other option.In post 412, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Do you scum read LL Titus?In post 411, Titus wrote:
Getting the mislynch you wantIn post 410, LuckyLuciano wrote:How am I rewarded for making the game less readable?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yep that´s my bad, sorry. Messed up my notes somehow you´re off the list.In post 393, Homura wrote:
Run that through me again. I wasn't present during LunarRest interactions. Have you mistaken me for their slot?In post 315, Crush wrote: I don't mafia lean your slot because of meta arguments, I just don't like meta arguments. Especially not in a newbie game because I, and probably more people, have never played with players in said meta read. I can't evaluate meta based arguments because I have no indication of their meta, so for me meta arguments contribute null to the game. The main reason I lean mafia on your slot are the posts made by LunarRest regarding the Titus vote switch after RVS, it seemed like she was reaching for the sky. I dislike the entire theatre around that vote switch.
At the time: Karnage null, TSE mafia, phoenix null.In post 395, Homura wrote:In post 316, Crush wrote:Also about the first part of #291 , I don't think most of my reads are null since I do lean (if only slightly) on most players. If you would interpret that as me null reading everyone that's fine, but don't expect me to develop all in reads D1 like LL does. I would also like to remind you that my vote on Cheeky made that wagon the leading one, I could also have voted for the equally big TSE and LL wagons.Spoiler:
Saw these as nullreads. You did elaborate on some of them, but I find it strange that you scumlean me over them from your explanations. Especially considering it amounted to "I don't like meta arguments" and something I wasn't even present for.
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@Phoenix can you explain again why you prefer to abstain from EOD wagons again? I didn´t really get that part.
Also are Karnage and Cheeky replacing out? Dont remember them posting very much if at all for the last days.
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Non doesn’t post that much content.In post 416, Crush wrote:@Phoenix can you explain again why you prefer to abstain from EOD wagons again? I didn´t really get that part.
Also are Karnage and Cheeky replacing out? Dont remember them posting very much if at all for the last days.
@Non Imh, can you be a bit more elaborate about what you noticed this game so far?
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I hope his mean meta is more than a 1 word analysis of a 17 page game, otherwise its going to be fun evaluating him.In post 417, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Non doesn’t post that much content.In post 416, Crush wrote:@Phoenix can you explain again why you prefer to abstain from EOD wagons again? I didn´t really get that part.
Also are Karnage and Cheeky replacing out? Dont remember them posting very much if at all for the last days.
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"Smh, the general hostile attitude Cheeky has taken towards me feels fake."
But isn't that... Cheeky's attitude in general, kinda? (no offense, Cheeky)
@LL: Let's not pretend your SR of me and that of Karnage are the same thing. You outright said I'm scum, providing reasoning 100 posts later. Karnage was SRing me because he didn't know if my reaction to QQ was genuine. First, he was nowhere near as confident in his SR as you are. Second, he didn't vote me. Third, he had way less information in general to make that assumption than you did. Also, why bring that up only now in the first place?
@TSE: Are you voting me because there are more votes on me and there's a higher chance of me getting lynched today, or because you TR LL more than you do me?
"can you explain again why you prefer to abstain from EOD wagons again? I didn´t really get that part."
Quote the post you are referring to, please.
"I hope his mean meta is more than a 1 word analysis of a 17 page game, otherwise its going to be fun evaluating him."
Boy do I have some bad news for you
"It's in the quote."
I don't see the problem there.
"Opportunistic would be if Luciano jumped on you for little cause just to scumread you"
That's what he did, lmao.
"Because throughout your interaction with Luciano, you haven't once attempted a push back. You've only defended yourself the entire time. You obviously scumread him, so why aren't you pushing him? Why did you back off when he did even though you're scumreading him?"
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VOTE: CheekyShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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My thoughts are you spent too many words to say Cheeky was aggressive early so he's town.In post 421, LuckyLuciano wrote:@Titus, in 216 you asked me to expand upon my townread on Cheeky. In 221 I took the time to ISO every post Cheeky had made up to that point. You never talked about this post. What are your thoughts?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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