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[Nero Cain]

if you are wanting to replace out stop posting if you want to stay stay and try and fail to lynch me.

[Nero Cain]

Since when is there more then 1 Mafia Team?

is this a fake town slip?

[Nero Cain]

if u r staying here's a q. What was the point in claiming in your first post?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

So this is the post that stood out to me after a skim

Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.
Also, do you all honestly think I’m still toxic?

Hey, TSE. Here you imply role information, then do fuck all with it. If you know for a fact, either you have specific info on a single player, or you have some broader "there are x scum in players abc" type knowledge, or you're scum and hinting that you're being bussed like Nero suggests. If you don't, you're completely full of shit.

If you have role info that means town can make a better lynch, then hinting at it rather than outing it means you're already playing badly in an anti town way.

If you're hinting bus, you're scum.

If you're just making it up to try to redirect attention away from you to your Wagoners, then you're being kinda toxic already.

So ten pages in, I'm already left thinking you're either scum, playing really badly, or toxic.

Your Nero vote is pretty bad -even if he's slightly misreading one post, he's showing scumhunting motive. It reads omgus at best, which is not inherently scummy but is a thing I've seen you do that contributes to your perceived toxicity.

So let's turn the volume down. If your "I know there's scum" thing is just your usual overconfidence, then admit that now, and I at least will let it slide. Then tell me something you've noticed about a player NOT on your wagon, and not relating to something they've said about you. Can be anything game relevant. I feel like if you direct your energy at scumhunting on your own wagon, it will continue to come across as defensive and omgussy and look toxic or scummy, making the wagon a self fulfilling prophecy. If you want to help town, look elsewhere, except if you genuinely DO have helpful role info.

This just seems like a massive misrep it's obvious tse means atleast 1 scum on the wagon.

VOTE: The fonz

It's not misrep, he literally said he knew for a fact there were scum on the wagon. Now, obviously he didn't, which i had as the most likely scenario; he was massively overconfident, which is normal for TSE. You are correct that the post wasn't intended to sort TSE; it was intended to reach on to TSE, in a non confrontational manner, to try to get him to stop doing non alignment indicative flailing and OMGUS, and persuade him to play in a manner more conducive to me getting a read on him.

This makes no sense to me. Your vote was a reach but not to sort him or test a reaction but to correct TSE behaviour so he acts more in line with your will so you can eventually read him???? Voting him will calm him down how?

Erm, you're lying. I never voted TSE, so the rest of that house of cards collapses based on that. I was reaching out to him, not attacking him.

I think I made it pretty clear that I was just saying my wagon wasn’t pure town.
DONT TAKE IT AS ANYTHING ELSE.

The fact that Nero never even said his take on how many scum he thinks are on MY wagon.
He’s Flailing.

-I’ll put this for each message I post. (Who ever replaces me MUST scum read Nero!)

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Nero probably won’t even say rather he thinks my wagon was pure town or not.

-I’ll put this for each message I post. (Who ever replaces me MUST scum read Nero!)

[AaronFrost]

Do you think what TSE described in 364 is truthful? Namely that he didn't realize there were votes on him before he claimed?

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Honestly, yes. He claimed loud bodyguard in his very first post of the game so it's entirely possible he had just checked the thread and didn't realize he was being wagoned.

PEDIT: TSE if you're actually replacing out then please stop posting. If you're not, then stop pretending that you are.

[The Fonz]

I just didn't see enough content to justify those reads.

Please point out the reads you're referring to.

he's talking about

scum team 1

insomnia
TrueSoulEnergy
profii
Egix96

scum team 2

Garmr

scum on someones team

SausasaurusRex
Black Ranger

Since when is there more then 1 Mafia Team?

-I’ll put this for each message I post. (Who ever replaces me MUST scum read Nero!)

Since it was announced in the sign up thread and the opening posts.

Please, either commit to staying in your next post, or commit to repping out and don't make a next post.

[davesaz]

The wheels from NC and KM. The one's me and NC are debating.

What's the meaning of wheel here?

I see some huge differences between NC's and KM's lists, and there are also differences in their play.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Since when is there more then 1 Mafia Team?

is this a fake town slip?

How would it even be a Town slip?
Rather there’s a second mafia or not doesn’t mean shit.
Not like I would know if there is if I’m Town, TP or Mafia.
I’d have to read the rules to figure out that shit I suppose.
I don’t even know if there can be multiple mafia teams.

if you are wanting to replace out stop posting if you want to stay stay and try and fail to lynch me.

“Fail to lynch you”
Wouldn’t it make more sense for you to say “contribute and help engage and look outside of Nero”
Why would you want me to continue to engage with you if your Town?

-I’ll put this for each message I post. (Who ever replaces me MUST scum read Nero!)

[The Fonz]

Yeah, I wouldn't count on that, you're getting lynched before he is.

says the guy defending the snork out of scum profii and TSE.

Yeah, your reads are bad and you should feel bad. Unless you are scum ofc.

[AaronFrost]

Here's a game where Hectic was way different D1.

I disapprove equally of hyperposting and hyperghosting.
VOTE: gobble
to generate some discussion

How often have you played with Hectic dave? What discussion do you hope to generate with a gobble vote?

[davesaz]

TSE, please read this thread

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Yeah, I wouldn't count on that, you're getting lynched before he is.

says the guy defending the snork out of scum profii and TSE.

Yeah, your reads are bad and you should feel bad. Unless you are scum ofc.

Vote Nero then.

I’ll stay in this game on one condition.
Someone says the following line.
“We don’t need the Loud BG Alive to win the game”

[TrueSoulEnergy]

TSE, please read this thread

Yeah my bad.
Just don’t want to hurt my slot if it’s a good one.
Y’know?

[davesaz]

Here's a game where Hectic was way different D1.

I disapprove equally of hyperposting and hyperghosting.
VOTE: gobble
to generate some discussion

How often have you played with Hectic dave? What discussion do you hope to generate with a gobble vote?

3-4 of my most recent games, though one of them was hydra and therefore doesn't weigh as much.

Discussion on whether it's ok to post essentially "I'm not going to post". (hint -- it's not)

[Garmr]

I don't know what to think of fonz anymore. I noticed myself looking for reasons to scum read him when I tried to give a reread so my bias seems to tilt that way.

[The Fonz]

Dave, you've played with Nero a fair bit too, right?

[The Fonz]

I don't know what to think of fonz anymore. I noticed myself looking for reasons to scum read him when I tried to give a reread so my bias seems to tilt that way.

Doing this is scummy but admitting to it is perversely town.

[Nero Cain]

He’s Flailing.

I don't think you know what that means.

The fact that Nero never even said his take on how many scum he thinks are on MY wagon.

but its irrelevant pushback.

In 149 you said you

KNEW

that a very specific number of scum were pushing you and I pushed you on that.

Fonz (and insom kinda) is saying that its overconfidence that made you post a post were you accused yourself of getting bussed.

I mean later you go on to say that it was more than just me that was scum on your wagon but yeah.

I was calling insomnia and Garnr scum so 2 IG.

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, your reads are bad and you should feel bad. Unless you are scum ofc.

how do you know the alignments of other players?

if you say you don't then how can u know my reads are bad?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

He’s Flailing.

I don't think you know what that means.

The fact that Nero never even said his take on how many scum he thinks are on MY wagon.

but its irrelevant pushback.

In 149 you said you

KNEW

that a very specific number of scum were pushing you and I pushed you on that.

Fonz (and insom kinda) is saying that its overconfidence that made you post a post were you accused yourself of getting bussed.

I mean later you go on to say that it was more than just me that was scum on your wagon but yeah.

I was calling insomnia and Garnr scum so 2 IG.

So then you don’t think I was wrong on the scum on wagon then?
Yet you still push me.
Over what?
A lack of communication?
Because I didn’t say it properly.
Here’s a thing. Guess what.
My communication is shit.

[Nero Cain]

but then when i pushed u on it you danced around the issue instead of just owning up to "shit at communication" and I'm watch Fonz, insomnia and profii make excuses for you. So if you are town then u r getting white knighted, brro.

[Nero Cain]

I'm not sure if I should believe that you forgot that this game was MB AND didn't read the op AND missed all the times is was talked about in thread.

[AaronFrost]

but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.

Posting reads lists like that, at least to me, is a good way to make yourself look busy without actually doing anything or participating in discussion, which is scummy. I think it's also unreasonable to have reads on every single player who's posted up until now which is why it looks especially faked in a game of this size.

[Almost50]

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