Honestly same, probably won't be trying super hard this game until at least half the people are gone and I can start doing some actual solving.In post 489, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is my school of thought this game.In post 488, profii wrote:if we are lynching scummy dudes then the game will start to resolve itself over time
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How strong is this tell and do you or Drixx have any examples of this behavior? I'm a little familiar with hood mechanics, but not enough to determine one way or the other.In post 491, The Fonz wrote:
Yeah, I'm willing to lynch on the basis of this. Kirari pings me a bit. I have no idea why anyone town would ever speculate about who is and isn't a mason, or ask others to do so. And there are Nero-Kirari links; Nero reads like a partner who is trying to draw heat away from Hirari without committing to saying he has a town read. But the "neighbor who points out there might be scum in the hood is herself scum" tell is stronger than any day one associative.In post 447, Drixx wrote:So ... in a neighborhood with {redacted} but Black Ranger is in there. He did the whole "Look at how super helpful I am being" entrance combined with the "you know there's totally scum in this neighborhood ... you REALIZE that right?" thing. For as long as I've been on this site, and probably before that, those two behaviors in a neighborhood have been super scum indicative.
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What would you have done in my situation?In post 571, Nero Cain wrote:but then when i pushed u on it you danced around the issue instead of just owning up to "shit at communication" and I'm watch Fonz, insomnia and profii make excuses for you. So if you are town then u r getting white knighted, brro.- TrueSoulEnergy
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Fun Fact.In post 572, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not sure if I should believe that you forgot that this game was MB AND didn't read the op AND missed all the times is was talked about in thread.
Even Chemist can tell you.
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TrueSoulEnergy(11): NorwegianboyEE, Chemist1422, Nero Cain, Dolly Parton, tictac, Jackal711, Kirari Momobami, Pink Ball, Cat Scratch Fever, profii, Elsa Jay
Garmr(3): Black Ranger, bob3141, Yiley
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bob3141(1): SausasaurusRex
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NotAJumbleOfNumbers(1): insomnia
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Not Voting(26): Pine, Not Known 15, Jamelia, Uncrowned, hersho, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, DrDolittle, Hectic, Golden Robster, VaultDweller, Amrun, UltimatePlank, clidd, pisskop, QuantumQuasar, dsjstr, EeveeLution Army, BBMolla, kagesong, ar98mubarik, Something_Smart, Rhinox, eth0s, Non Imh, gobbledygook, Emperor FlippyNips
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not deflectIn post 577, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:What would you have done in my situation?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 573, AaronFrost wrote:
Posting reads lists like that, at least to me, is a good way to make yourself look busy without actually doing anything or participating in discussion, which is scummy. I think it's also unreasonable to have reads on every single player who's posted up until now which is why it looks especially faked in a game of this size.In post 468, Nero Cain wrote:but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.
I agree that lists of all the players are in general scummy, illusion of content type stuff. I can buy Hirari's as just being them wanting to test their early reads against random, though it slightly pings they do it in the thread, and the inclusion of guessing masons is anti town.
Nero it's less the fact that he has seven reads as that they are ALL scumreads. He attempted to call a four person associational, call a fifth person scum but not aligned with the other four, and two people
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So the problem is a lot of my games are so long ago that remembering specifics is hard. There's one game that sticks in my mind where a scum did that, all the town neighborsIn post 576, AaronFrost wrote:
How strong is this tell and do you or Drixx have any examples of this behavior? I'm a little familiar with hood mechanics, but not enough to determine one way or the other.In post 491, The Fonz wrote:
Yeah, I'm willing to lynch on the basis of this. Kirari pings me a bit. I have no idea why anyone town would ever speculate about who is and isn't a mason, or ask others to do so. And there are Nero-Kirari links; Nero reads like a partner who is trying to draw heat away from Hirari without committing to saying he has a town read. But the "neighbor who points out there might be scum in the hood is herself scum" tell is stronger than any day one associative.In post 447, Drixx wrote:So ... in a neighborhood with {redacted} but Black Ranger is in there. He did the whole "Look at how super helpful I am being" entrance combined with the "you know there's totally scum in this neighborhood ... you REALIZE that right?" thing. For as long as I've been on this site, and probably before that, those two behaviors in a neighborhood have been super scum indicative.
x.actually had it in their role pms that the hood contained scumbut explained it so badly that we didn't lynch the scum. I'll look for it.- The Fonz
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So me deflecting a spelling mistake is scum indicative?In post 583, Nero Cain wrote:
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Not point out there is at least 1 scum on my wagon?
Because when you pushed me at it.
I felt you are scum and still feel you are scum that pushed me because your mafia that knows more then just you out of your team was on the wagon.
Here’s my current thought RN.
If your scum. Given the interaction towards me. One of your team mates were also on my wagon.- Nero Cain
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I'm sure im a bit bias since i think alot of thier reads line up with mine. I understand the "they aren't adding to discussion and is scummy" but im just not gung-ho about it. And honestly, Fonz getting so bent out of shape over it seems kinda off when there are shit tons of ppl that are scummier and doing way less. I mean, I can't lie here. Kirari hasn't done much, I understand that. Fonz' whole spiel about me not scum reading her and being frantic about it seems so agenda-driven.In post 573, AaronFrost wrote:
Posting reads lists like that, at least to me, is a good way to make yourself look busy without actually doing anything or participating in discussion, which is scummy. I think it's also unreasonable to have reads on every single player who's posted up until now which is why it looks especially faked in a game of this size.In post 468, Nero Cain wrote:but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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who is my supposed scumbuddy?In post 589, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:If your scum. Given the interaction towards me. One of your team mates were also on my wagon.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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You tell me.In post 591, Nero Cain wrote:
who is my supposed scumbuddy?In post 589, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:If your scum. Given the interaction towards me. One of your team mates were also on my wagon.- TrueSoulEnergy
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see you just keep deflecting and it makes you look just scummy as shit.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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he's voting you. I like him better than you.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Eh, I'm not bent out of shape over it, I think trying to call a four player associative day one is super dumb, but not outside your town range. I just think it's decent scumhunting on the part of those who flagged it up. Your votes are poorly reasoned, but that's also what I see as normal! Nero. The only thing that really pings is the deflecting off of Kirari.In post 590, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm sure im a bit bias since i think alot of thier reads line up with mine. I understand the "they aren't adding to discussion and is scummy" but im just not gung-ho about it. And honestly, Fonz getting so bent out of shape over it seems kinda off when there are shit tons of ppl that are scummier and doing way less. I mean, I can't lie here. Kirari hasn't done much, I understand that. Fonz' whole spiel about me not scum reading her and being frantic about it seems so agenda-driven.In post 573, AaronFrost wrote:
Posting reads lists like that, at least to me, is a good way to make yourself look busy without actually doing anything or participating in discussion, which is scummy. I think it's also unreasonable to have reads on every single player who's posted up until now which is why it looks especially faked in a game of this size.In post 468, Nero Cain wrote:but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.- Nero Cain
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NGL, it's hard for me to see past this.
In post 149, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.
IMO, this is a deflection and it seems v scummy to me.In post 188, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
So your actually saying that’s pure town that was on me?In post 184, Nero Cain wrote:
you'd only know this if u were getting bussed so :/In post 149, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.
I mean, look guy, maybe I'm an ass for calling you toxic and lulz voting you and its possible that set you on edge. But don't you kinda think you've proved that you are toxic?
But if you are town I don't see how you aren't looking at the players defending you b/c that's gonna be a white knight but honestly, at this point, I just kinda want to lynchh you out of spite. And I know that ppl will use it to push on me but thats how I feel. So w/eOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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