Newbie 1988 | Octopus | Over

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.16

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Karnage

(4): TrueSoulEnergy, Titus, LuckyLuciano, Ph0enix

Titus

(2): Karnage, Non lmh

CheekyTeeky

(1): Crush

TrueSoulEnergy

(1): CheekyTeeky

Not Voting

(1): Homura

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-10 12:00:00).

Mod notes:

CheekyTeeky is being replaced.[/area]

[Plotinus]

Wooper replaces CheekyTeeky, please welcome him!

[Wooper]

welcome wooper!

[Wooper]

wait that's ME

[Wooper]

I need to sleep here it's past 11pm. I'll read up tomorrow /o/

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Hello Wooper!

[Wooper]

hi TSE!
could you give me a quick rundown of your reads rn?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

hi TSE!
could you give me a quick rundown of your reads rn?

Sure.
LL - Town
Phe0nix - Claimed Jailkeeper
Non Lmh - Slight Town
Homura - Null Town

Scum within (Titus and Karnage)

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I think one of Titus/Karnage is scum and the other is Town.

[Wooper]

if I had more than 24 hours I'd play this a bit cooler but
in the interest of covering ground quickly
please elaborate?

[Ph0enix]

hi TSE!
could you give me a quick rundown of your reads rn?

Sure.
LL - Town
Phe0nix - Claimed Jailkeeper
Non Lmh - Slight Town
Homura - Null Town

Scum within (Titus and Karnage)

What's the difference between slight town and null town?

[Titus]

I'll catch up tonight. Real life happens.

My reads are still the same.

[Plotinus]

LuckyLuciano² has been prodded and has (expired on 2020-03-10 16:30:37) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

[Non lmh]

never played with titus so idk if the se thing is town indicative
it's just that I found it odd that she hadn't done something she said she'd do

[Titus]

never played with titus so idk if the se thing is town indicative
it's just that I found it odd that she hadn't done something she said she'd do

This is the newbie queue. SEs are experienced players. There are some things that I cannot lie about as an SE. These are site meta, how to play, how to use the site etc.

If I failed to explain something please let me know. Also, I do believe in my skim you felt I was "mean". That's not a function of being an SE. In fact that's not good you feel that way.

[Wooper]

Titus when will you be around? I'm working now but I'll be semi-available for a while. Want to talk through stuff while I catch up?

[Homura]

never played with titus so idk if the se thing is town indicative
it's just that I found it odd that she hadn't done something she said she'd do

Do consider the SE hat more town-indicative, but since then she's changed her tone.

[Homura]

Titus, don't misunderstand what I'm about to say. I want to believe you're town, but I don't like how you shut down my theory and flat-out refused to case Cheeky when I asked you to. Which should be the bare minimum if you want to push a counterwagon in opposition of a wagon you staunchly disliked. You proceeded to call my and LL's push on Phoenix as "poor townplay," then voted for Phoenix's wagon instead of convincing players to vote for your preferred Cheeky wagon.

I admit that I'm a player not quite at the standard I'd like to be, but I'm trying to improve. If you're town, all I ask is that you help me see where you're at.

[Homura]

I know my theory is poorly-constructed. But it's all I've got, because if I'm honest with you, I haven't had a clue how to approach this game. That's why I'm asking you to case your reads, because you're more experienced than the rest of us and feel you'd be really helpful if you wanted to be.

[Wooper]

Never had tapioca before. Is it any good?

Never had tapioca before. Is it any good?

VOTE: Phi

Gut.

Titus wins my vanity rvs townread

[Homura]

If I need to be the lynch I'm ok with that in order to avoid a no lynch

Don't think scum!Karnage says this, but he's mentally left the game either way if his lack of response to requests for reads indicates anything.

Intent to hammer in ~6 hours, or someone else can do so to squeeze as much time out of the deadline as possible.

[Wooper]

Hello everyone. 2 votes on me already!

Actually this one double wins a double vanity double rvs townread

[Titus]

Titus, don't misunderstand what I'm about to say. I want to believe you're town, but I don't like how you shut down my theory and flat-out refused to case Cheeky when I asked you to. Which should be the bare minimum if you want to push a counterwagon in opposition of a wagon you staunchly disliked. You proceeded to call my and LL's push on Phoenix as "poor townplay," then voted for Phoenix's wagon instead of convincing players to vote for your preferred Cheeky wagon.

I admit that I'm a player not quite at the standard I'd like to be, but I'm trying to improve. If you're town, all I ask is that you help me see where you're at.

This is a fair request for an explanation.

First, I don't really do "cases" when there's flat out not enough evidence to case. My Cheeky and Karnage reads were tonal at first. If there was something more to case, I would have. I just don't believe in upselling what isn't there.

I had been trying to convince players to vote Cheeky all day. I changed to Phoenix solely because we needed a lynch at deadline. No lynch is just flat out terrible. A no lynch should not happen in the newbie queue barring conftown claiming and no time to change wagons.

I have been playing long enough to know my reads get better with time and data to support them. Right now, I have three scumreads but only two possible scum (Cheeky, Karnage, TSE).

I want to see what Cheeky's sub does.

[Titus]

I know my theory is poorly-constructed. But it's all I've got, because if I'm honest with you, I haven't had a clue how to approach this game. That's why I'm asking you to case your reads, because you're more experienced than the rest of us and feel you'd be really helpful if you wanted to be.

Do not expect my reads to be better or more accurate because I am an IC. I prefer to keep my hands off D1 and asses what happened and why. Early game is my weakest point.

Day 1 is less about being right but observing the motivations of people imo. To me, if I get the best out of town, we win, even if my reads aren't so hot.

[Wooper]

Never had tapioca before. Is it any good?

VOTE: Phi

Gut.

Strong enough gut ping for you to move off the rvs wagon prior to reaction from Tapi. Hmm.

I can see a newbie mafia trying to cover up another mafia that way. But a SE player likely wouldn't be doing that, right?

I am a big fan of this entrance.

He's come in with the "two votes on me" thing without feeling necessarily obliged to act on it or do anything to alter the situation & this as an analytical post feels sincere and doesn't feel overstated.

Often newbie scum feel a pang of anxiety at being lolwagoned at the start of their first game. Often experienced scum playing in a new environment feel compelled to flex and show their stuff and overdisplay their {analytical, manipulative} prowess

This guy is posting pretty fast and doesn't seem all that phased

It's pretty subconscious but I think it's a reasonable confidence anti-survivalism tell