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[Almost50]

Thus should have been mentioned earlier. Penguinpower is our backup moderator.

OK. That figures!

[Titus]

I am tempted to keep Titus around to see how she does VCA involving 50 players lol. However, there needs to be some kind of consensus on some other player if we're gonna get 26 votes on someone.

Titus, why tictac/Black Ranger?

Observation.

The wagons tbh. It's a weak D1 guess to start me moving, knowing I am town.

[Pink Ball]

Bad news: Titus is in a scum slot.
Good news: Titus is cool she can stay longer.
Bad news: Titus is cool and WILL stay longer.
Good news: Titus is a shorter name than TSE's so is easier to vote.

[Elsa Jay]

So our objective is to kill the long names now?

[Almost50]

Makes sense if you have to type the exact whole name for your vote to count, tbh

[tictac]

Titus is a shorter name than TSE's so is easier to vote.

eyy. coolio.
VOTE: Titus

to be clear: loud-foo not gonna exist in 50p game cause it's annoying to mod and mechanically too uninteresting to bother.
Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why

not

claim it as scum.

Chemist read is also a read and not sarcasm (@dave, tho u used the word 'sarcasm' correctly! so concrats.)
Also never claimed i was trying to 'figure him out', so nyah at insomnia.

[EeveeLution Army]

"our" is a strong word

[Titus]

Ok yup tictac is scum. Willing to vote there too.

[Something_Smart]

Even if KM were town and actually thought I was scum ... it would be worthwhile to get that reasoning out there and engage me to reciprocate.

Not everyone thinks this way though, right? Plenty of people will, as town, ignore everything their scumread says and refuse to interact with them. (I have been on the receiving end of this many times.) Some people don't like getting into wall wars, and I don't blame them, because wall wars are stupid. (And honestly, if you DID want people to ignore your argument, getting into a wall war isn't a terrible way).

And actually, I see very few players intentionally try to make the game toxic as scum. I suspect you are thinking of a few high-profile scum players (kuribo, LLD, and RC come to mind), but that's a dirty tactic and liable to backfire if you're not absolutely amazing at spewing bullshit. While that could be what she is doing, it's far from the only possiblity.

[Something_Smart]

Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why not claim it as scum.

Imagine forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus every night.

That kinda sounds amazing, don't you think?

Even better, we might be forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus... who is also scum, and we can lynch her on like D5 or D6 or something. Sounds like a win-win to me.

[Drixx]

Even if KM were town and actually thought I was scum ... it would be worthwhile to get that reasoning out there and engage me to reciprocate.

Not everyone thinks this way though, right? Plenty of people will, as town, ignore everything their scumread says and refuse to interact with them. (I have been on the receiving end of this many times.) Some people don't like getting into wall wars, and I don't blame them, because wall wars are stupid. (And honestly, if you DID want people to ignore your argument, getting into a wall war isn't a terrible way).

And actually, I see very few players intentionally try to make the game toxic as scum. I suspect you are thinking of a few high-profile scum players (kuribo, LLD, and RC come to mind), but that's a dirty tactic and liable to backfire if you're not absolutely amazing at spewing bullshit. While that could be what she is doing, it's far from the only possiblity.

I don't buy it. KM clearly isn't ignoring everything I say. The internal logic of your post is dissonant.

[tictac]

Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why not claim it as scum.

Imagine forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus every night.

That kinda sounds amazing, don't you think?

Even better, we might be forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus... who is also scum, and we can lynch her on like D5 or D6 or something. Sounds like a win-win to me.

see, scum have this esoteric ability, where they are sometimes able to say things that are not always 100% true.
They don't actually have to be roleblocked to say they have been.

[Something_Smart]

And then there's no harm done if we leave her for a few days, right?

[Something_Smart]

KM clearly isn't ignoring everything I say.

Maybe not, but it seems like she's ignoring your attempts to start an actual dialogue, right? That's the kind of thing that's happened to me, where someone scumreads me, I say "let's talk about your reasons X, Y, and Z for thinking I'm scum and why I don't feel they're valid", and they respond with "shut up scum." Frustrating situation, yes, but I've seen it from both alignments. Is that how you would characterize this, and if not, what about it is different?

[Drixx]

KM clearly isn't ignoring everything I say.

Maybe not, but it seems like she's ignoring your attempts to start an actual dialogue, right? That's the kind of thing that's happened to me, where someone scumreads me, I say "let's talk about your reasons X, Y, and Z for thinking I'm scum and why I don't feel they're valid", and they respond with "shut up scum." Frustrating situation, yes, but I've seen it from both alignments. Is that how you would characterize this, and if not, what about it is different?

I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.

[Drixx]

So can you tell me what you're trying to accomplish here S_S? You're engaging with me pretty heavily in an attempt to defend KM here ... but I've managed basically no traction there while one of the other things I pointed out today is a viable wagon. Like ... I would like to understand what you're trying to accomplish here.

[Amrun]

Hectic is town.


If we can actually reverse this wagon on Titus, I’d prefer to because I agree BG is self resolving.

[Something_Smart]

I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.

I don't see any evidence to refute it, either.

[Elsa Jay]

I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.

I don't see any evidence to refute it, either.

"Unicorns exist!"
"Where's the evidence?"
"Same to you, can you prove they DON'T exist?"
"...what?"
"Checkmate."

[Emperor flippyNips]

Nice checkmate

[Something_Smart]

So can you tell me what you're trying to accomplish here S_S? You're engaging with me pretty heavily in an attempt to defend KM here ... but I've managed basically no traction there while one of the other things I pointed out today is a viable wagon. Like ... I would like to understand what you're trying to accomplish here.

- get inside your head so I can understand and hopefully read you better

- understand exactly why you think KM is scum so I can either join your push or try to convince you to weaken your read, depending on whether I agree with your reasoning (and it seems pretty shaky right now).

[Drixx]

I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.

I don't see any evidence to refute it, either.

Sure you do. Other people that KM isn't scum reading have weighed in and said that it's reasonable to ask for brief reasoning.

P-edit: LOL at EJ's reaction.

[Something_Smart]

"Unicorns exist!"
"Where's the evidence?"
"Same to you, can you prove they DON'T exist?"
"...what?"
"Checkmate."

Exactly. Drixx is the first person. He responded to me saying KM might be town by pointing out that I didn't have any evidence for it.

[Titus]

@Amrun, Thoughts on Black Ranger and tictac?

I hope that this game goes exactly like Wake's Rolemadness did day 1 (minus the gunsmith). Got wagoned D1, got like 6 straight guilties.

[Emperor flippyNips]

@mod— my vote is suppose to be on hectic