Newbie 1989 (Game over!)

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 1.17

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

Jormengand

(3): Atarashi Hajimari, WizenedWalrus, 72offsuit

clidd

(1): Elmo TeH AzN

Not Voting

(5): clidd, Menalque, Jormengand, Iconeum, Doobietime

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-15 01:30:00).

Mod notes:

• Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.
  
• WizenedWalrus standing V/LA weekends.
  
• Doobietime V/LA this weekend.
  
• Elmo TeH AzN V/LA until Tuesday/Wednesday.
  
• Menalque V/LA until Sunday.

[72offsuit]

Maybe I want the game to move at a reasonable pace and am just tired of replacements? Its a bit much to have one spot be replaced 3x. Hate to tell you this.

I guess it's reasonable to feel a level of frustration at that. This is the first time I've played in a game with replacements. It's.... different.

So you've played before? Is this an alternate account?

[72offsuit]

Player by player:

Jormengand: Absolutely positively the worst.
Doobietime: Seems to be trying to cover bases in a very unusual way, and the thing where she FoSed a counterclaim, got an entire explanation of why that's a bad idea and then went... "Yeah okay sure I can't convince you", I dunno, that seems potentially suspicious.
Clidd: No real read so town on balance of probabilities, probably. If mafia, doing a good job of pretending not to be.
72: In general, I don't like people going "Aha, I have reasons but I'm not gonna tell you!" like in #565, but I know that's in a lot of people's townrange. There's nothing really suspicious about him, but nothing massively exonerating either.
Atarashi: Some decent analysis that makes me want to lean town, but I'm not sure. While I'm not happy that they've been spending a decent amount of time pointing at people who are now me, I'm not certain I can blame them, so I probably lean town on them.
WizenedWalrus: Hasn't had a great deal of chance to post but has been scumhunting a decent bit. Maybe a little eager to jump on people given a chance? Probably town but I'm not certain.
Elmo: A lot of her early reasoning seems to make more sense in context, but I don't totally appreciate someone trying to kill me before I even get a chance to speak.
Menalque: I know that there

exist

town players who make gambits like that, but unfortunately, I don't know Menalque enough to know if he would do that as town but I suspect the answer is "No". Unless he's known for making that kind of gambit?
Iconeum: Conversely, I don't think it would make the CC as mafia. Reads as town to me. I can sorta see the arguments against, but I don't really.

OK. So i can see you have a few town leans in there, but not really any specific scumleans.
In the

hypothetical situation

of you having the hammer right at this moment, who would you lynch?

[Datisi]

Nudging Menalque.

[Iconeum]

I'm still thinking about the scum Ico theory, sorry to disappoint, but I'm less stuck on it now and feel as though my vote wasn't representative of my feelings overall. Not sure why scum me would have stood their ground so long if it was going to blow up in my face.

because you didn't believe it would blow up in your face is the answer to this

[Iconeum]

VOTE: doobie

[Menalque]

Stop voting for town icon

[Menalque]

Elmo doobie Icon town

[Menalque]

Who else

[Menalque]

Icon thinks atar is town so he can get a pass but should be reconsidered if lylo is reached

[Menalque]

So all scum in (72, walrus, clidd, jormen)

[Menalque]

Doubt that 72 and walrus are scum together

[Iconeum]

Stop voting for town icon

exactly

everyone who's voting me needs to stop

[Menalque]

No one is voting for you?

[Iconeum]

i was making a joke about how you worded that

[Iconeum]

i'll respect your opinion on doobie for now

UNVOTE:

[Menalque]

Oh right lol

[Menalque]

What do you think of walrus and clidd?

[Iconeum]

So all scum in (72, walrus, clidd, jormen)

from these 4, i townread walrus

i don't know about clidd

72 is in the middle, i scumread him previously but his last couple pages read very well

Jormen would be where I vote then

[Iconeum]

i think this is clidd town meta?

[Iconeum]

and yeah my doobie case stands:

you claim mason and I counterclaim you: doobie townreads you for the fake claim and scumreads me on the counterclaim

i don't like it

[Menalque]

I will try to catch up properly later today, if not then it’ll be tomorrow

Jormen would be okay potentially

I think I prefer 72 or maybe clidd

I feel like clidd has been very obviously town in his other games and he’s not here which is making me want to lynch him

[Menalque]

and yeah my doobie case stands:

you claim mason and I counterclaim you: doobie townreads you for the fake claim and scumreads me on the counterclaim

i don't like it

I think you dislike it because (1) it’s very out there and (2) it’s aimed at you and that’s affecting your judgement

I don’t think scum think they’re getting a lynch on either of us and I don’t think a new new player tries that

[Menalque]

i think this is clidd town meta?

He seems very passive here in a way that I don’t think he generally is from meta

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I won't lie I've paid little attention to this game.
Doobie isn't this your first mafia game?