What makes a good town player?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Whether it's egotistical or not depends on the delivery

[Ramcius]

Whether it's egotistical or not depends on the delivery

No, thinking that you're superior is egoistical, no matter how you slice it. Not egoistical would be making some agreement, i. e. we lynch your scumread today and then we lynch mine next day

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Its based on the delivery because you can either convince the main people driving the lynch that they're wrong or hard veto it by being really loud

Its not egotistical if you're giving the opposing side an opportunity to convince you

[the worst]

i think there may be a disconnect in what you guys are talking about

there's a level of ego associated with considering yourself superior for sure. but being *seen* as egotistical is another decision which people need to make when they consider how to conduct themselves.

mafia is a game of socialising/people but far more importantly it's a game of optics

[Ramcius]

Ofc, people think that ego means unbearable asshole. Ego means that person has enough willpower to go against other people, even if there are more of them. And that's really important trait for a good town player

[Alisae]

My problem is I actually get n1’d way too much as of recently I think.
Its really frustrating because I want to play the game

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Congrats alisae :3

I'm proud of you bb

[Alisae]

Ah thanks, I tried to be as spicy as I could

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Spice is all you need

[Ramcius]

My problem is I actually get n1’d way too much as of recently I think.
Its really frustrating because I want to play the game

Easy solve, just teach other players your ways, so scum would kill them instead

[RadiantCowbells]

Whether it's egotistical or not depends on the delivery

No, thinking that you're superior is egoistical, no matter how you slice it. Not egoistical would be making some agreement, i. e. we lynch your scumread today and then we lynch mine next day

Not all players are equal though

Trying to pretend everyone's reads are the same is delusion masquerading as egalitarianism

[Alyssa The Lamb]

i think there may be a disconnect in what you guys are talking about

there's a level of ego associated with considering yourself superior for sure. but being *seen* as egotistical is another decision which people need to make when they consider how to conduct themselves.

mafia is a game of socialising/people but far more importantly it's a game of optics

[Ramcius]

Whether it's egotistical or not depends on the delivery

No, thinking that you're superior is egoistical, no matter how you slice it. Not egoistical would be making some agreement, i. e. we lynch your scumread today and then we lynch mine next day

Not all players are equal though

Trying to pretend everyone's reads are the same is delusion masquerading as egalitarianism

What a blasphemy, all people are made equal

Tbh, that wasn't the point of our discussion at all, but you're right, yet there's a problem - how to explain people that their reads are inferior?

[nomnomnom]

Read accuracy doesn't make a good town player necessarily.
Being a team player and collaborating with other townies makes a good town player imo.

[popsofctown]

Reading accuracy makes you a good vig

[Ranmaru]

Answer

[the worst]

wtf hito won this thread nine years before it was posted argh

[Ranmaru]

Hito MVP.

[RadiantCowbells]

Making your towns win games makes you a good town player and you don't necessarily have to have god tier individual reads and play town carry to do that.

[Ranmaru]

Well, to do that you need to know what skills you need to have to be able to make your town win games. Reads can factor into that. Yet if your reads aren't good, then you need to be able to determine who you think does have good reads, and follow them. (Hopefully you correctly determine they are town as well)

[RadiantCowbells]

There's a lot of different ways to play as town that emphasize different skills. Too many people try to be alpha carry mode for various reasons even if they aren't as abrupt about it as I tend to be. You can literally spend all your time in a game metaing and developing a read on one player and if it's correct and you can communicate that effectively and show yourself town as well town just gained two masons but people are way too intellectually lazy about the reads they claim to be certain on and try to do too much in games.

[skitter30]

i think it's more important to just like look town enough to take yourself out of the lynchpool and to be able to identify other townies and work with them than to like be able to find scum

[Ranmaru]

Then it would be helpful if you listed those different ways for OP, and the different skills you mention. I welcome different manners of playing, and have tried that recently. Yet I feel it all leads back to those core skills. If a player feigns confidence on a read they are lazy on, then they should stop that and be more thoughtful.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

i think it's more important to just like look town enough to take yourself out of the lynchpool and to be able to identify other townies and work with them than to like be able to find scum

This tends to give better results than most other strategies in more games I've found

[skitter30]

that's my general approach, just make myself unlynchable and
then try to figure out who i can work with
and if i happen to find scum too that's a bonus, but not a priority