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Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:02 am

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I don't really like BR's reads.


His scum reads are 2 guys he's already voted, a guy that was wagoned, town savior and their only original scum read is basically a chainsaw of Elsa.
Seems very safe and status quo.

He does say that he thinks insom scumslipped but hadn't voted there wich is kinda :?

and a hefge on djster.

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Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:04 am

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Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 2543, Nero Cain wrote:s this his normal play
Egix? In my experience, yes
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Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:12 am

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In post 2544, insomnia wrote:but then fucking Krazy decided to fucking go "yeah insomnia is trash anyway, doesn't matter he pegged the full team in a PoE of 5 people, i don't even need to read his posts, he's a liability, lynch him" and I had to act like a village idiot again and then I was like well fuck.
Uh Krazy never once called you trash, he said he thought you were scum. Why do you take that as a personal insult and why are you dragging baggage from previous games into this one?
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Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:16 am

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While I like that pisskop is posting now I find it scummy that he'd start his catchup *from the very beginning of the game* shortly after I call him out for being very below average activity and never acknowledged me as though it wasn't obvious he was responding to my push indirectly
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Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:19 am

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The scum numbers are 6-6-1 right?
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Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:21 am

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Would have been better if it was 6-6-6

But anyway having 5 scumreads at this point is still weird this early into game. Especially with 50 people
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Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:23 am

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Wut?
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Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:25 am

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In post 2556, EeveeLution Army wrote:Would have been better if it was 6-6-6

But anyway having 5 scumreads at this point is still weird this early into game. Especially with 50 people
Is it that he has to many or to little scum reads that leaves you as you say feeling his early game was weird?
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Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:26 am

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To many considering its still day 1. Only a handful of people can give long scumlists immediately off little things that pop up.
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Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:29 am

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And you believe that makes him scum?
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Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:35 am

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In post 2559, EeveeLution Army wrote:To many considering its still day 1. Only a handful of people can give long scumlists immediately off little things that pop up.

Do you think black scum reads are stretchy?

As 5 scum reads really inst much since there are 13 non town players for us to find. As i think it could be quite reasonable to have a fair few scum reads although naturaly most of them would be weak scum reads rather near a null read. So do you also find that these reads are too strong for teh day in addition to leavign you feel like his scum reads are too numerous for them to be genuine?
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Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:37 am

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just so everyone knows, Army is commenting on my post that's commenting on Garmer's post.
In post 2551, Nero Cain wrote:I also
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Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:46 am

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I find the notion that a set number of scum reads being weird... weird in itself... how many scum reads is one supposed to have?
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Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:51 am

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Everyone knows you can only have 1 at a time.
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Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:59 am

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Theoretically, exactly one player should have a total of 49 scumreads, so I'd say that's the upper limit :3
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Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:07 am

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In post 2564, RCEnigma wrote:Everyone knows you can only have 1 at a time.
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Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:38 am

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Even with 50 pl most would be 2 at a time. Maybe 3
Since splitting votes between 5 people will only hurt town.
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Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:44 am

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In post 2556, EeveeLution Army wrote:Would have been better if it was 6-6-6

But anyway having 5 scumreads at this point is still weird this early into game. Especially with 50 people
In post 2567, EeveeLution Army wrote:Even with 50 pl most would be 2 at a time. Maybe 3
Since splitting votes between 5 people will only hurt town.
oh

i read 2556 as '[a player] having 5 scumreads at this point is still weird'

but 2567 makes me think you meant

'[the town in general] having 5 scum reads...'

it might have just been my mistake but i read that wrong... I'm assuming this is one of those situations where a few people will be like 'i read it that way too'

which then makes me think it doesn't make any sense because in a 50 player list it seems normal for people to say 'oh player a b c & d are all scummy'


not sure this is NAI but it just seems odd
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Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:51 am

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In post 2555, EeveeLution Army wrote:The scum numbers are 6-6-1 right?
nah the faction ratio's are 37-6-6-1 Wake could of been a real dick and made someone a survivor.
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Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:54 am

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Is that an SK fakeclaim ya got lined up there Garmr?
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Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:01 am

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In post 2567, EeveeLution Army wrote:Even with 50 pl most would be 2 at a time. Maybe 3
Since splitting votes between 5 people will only hurt town.

So what makes you think a player cant have more than 3 scum reads?


as i see it you are saying that more scum reads split wagon. Which i dont agree with as all more scum reads means is that player has larger pool he thinks scum reside in. As i cant see the connection between a player having several scum reads and splitting wagons. It feels like opportunistic thing to say. As if your saying how dare that player be open to more lynches.

Now it would be different thing if he was actively pushing all his scum reads at once as if he is trying to find a wagon that will move instead of him. But him simply having more than 3 scum reads i dont think is ai. I would expect any player to have anywhere between 1 scum read and 8 in this game. All depending how confident they are on in each individual read.

So do you feel like black ranger is trying to push scum reads simply to divert pressure off himself? And that he is simply looking for somethign that will work. As opposed to some just feeling they have found several players they think are scum and pushing the one they feel is most likely
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Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:01 am

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In post 2570, chkflip wrote:Is that an SK fakeclaim ya got lined up there Garmr?
You think I should target him over pisskop?

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Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:02 am

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Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:02 am

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In a 50 player game with 13 scum in it is odd to me to not have a good chunk of scum reads this early. I've played in smaller games with less scum and less pages where a player has 2 or 3 scum reads already or 3 or 4 in a large. So having >4 seems disproportionately off. Also just in general, I think its just v EZ to get gut scum reactions so im kinda shocked that its apparently so hard for ppl to get scumreads.

As for BR, we know the mafia factions are 6 each so BR having 5-6 scum reads matches up with that so I can see how garmr gets "hunting the other faction" from that.
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