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Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:20 pm

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In post 2574, Nero Cain wrote:As for BR, we know the mafia factions are 6 each so BR having 5-6 scum reads matches up with that so I can see how garmr gets "hunting the other faction" from that.
This is another thing that concerns me in terms of the logic applied


This assumes that, scum-a!garmr is hunting 6x scum-b! And not busing any of his mates for distancing and also assuming garmr thinks his reads are perfect so that once he has 6 reads he stops reading any more.


IMO my expectation is that among the 12 scum players we will probably have a mix of abilities - some of the scum dudes will be able to actively scum hunt and make themselves appear town so no one scum reads them, or they might be poor scum players and amongst the main wagons that have formed already because they are obvious to the competent town players

So in a world way, using the example garmr has 6 scum reads I dont understand how one gets to the conclusion of "hes hunting the other team" without considering or better yet, giving a reason as to why garmr is hunting the other team, as opposed to say finding the weaker 3 players from scum-a and scum-b
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Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pm

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Proffii are you arguing that garmr is scum or that he is town?
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Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:29 pm

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What the ever-loving fuck is that?

Firstly, this has nothing to do with Garmr's hunting.
Garmr is the one that's accusing BR of hunting the other team.
I'm just saying that I can understand why Garmr is thinking that.

I think your thing about hunting the weak scum from each scum team is :?
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Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:35 pm

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As i cant tell if your trying to defend BR by using garmr example as proxy. In order to push that BR isnt scum lookign for the opposite team. As if you dont want use BR in the example as it woudl like you were directly defending him if you fail to deflect his lynch onto someone else.

Or trying to attack garmr by using his argument for BR being scum against him. With you think that BR is town looking for scum regardless and that you think garmr is actual scum who actualy thinks BR is scum. With him pushing the arguement that BR is simply scum looking for other scum.
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Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:35 pm

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above at proffii
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Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:39 pm

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he's already voting BR though. I feel like he just wanted to comment on the situation without knowing what the situation was.
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Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:41 pm

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I don't have a problem with garmrs reasoning. It's surface level 1 but it's an understandable take and 90% better than a lot of the wagons voters.
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Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 2602, Nero Cain wrote:What the ever-loving fuck is that?

Firstly, this has nothing to do with Garmr's hunting.
Garmr is the one that's accusing BR of hunting the other team.
I'm just saying that I can understand why Garmr is thinking that.

I think your thing about hunting the weak scum from each scum team is :?
I'm just saying I cant understand that- who was doing it is irrelevant- it's the logic I have issue with
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Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:55 pm

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Can we just fucking lynch Black Ranger already?
"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.
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Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:56 pm

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In post 2603, bob3141 wrote:As i cant tell if your trying to defend BR by using garmr example as proxy. In order to push that BR isnt scum lookign for the opposite team. As if you dont want use BR in the example as it woudl like you were directly defending him if you fail to deflect his lynch onto someone else.

Or trying to attack garmr by using his argument for BR being scum against him. With you think that BR is town looking for scum regardless and that you think garmr is actual scum who actualy thinks BR is scum. With him pushing the arguement that BR is simply scum looking for other scum.
sounds like I got the person wrong

I just disagree with the principle of "person is scum hunting approx 6 players therefore they are 1 scum hunting the other scum"

It seems very utopian
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Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:56 pm

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Lynch Ranger plz. Also pretty please don't waste your check on me.
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Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:02 pm

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profii you don't get to talk about anyone's scum hunting since you haven't done any and have no scum reads.

I guess I might be your sole scum read since you sorta leaned scum on me after I called you scum.
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Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:17 pm

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I'm at the bottom of 97.
Scum slip discussion again, my favorite. :roll:
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Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:40 pm

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What makes a good town player?
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Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:48 pm

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In post 2613, Creature wrote:What makes a good town player?
Being spicy
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Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:56 pm

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About 25 pages behind, will try to read some. Has Black Ranger been lynched yet?
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Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:58 pm

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In post 2614, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 2613, Creature wrote:What makes a good town player?
Being spicy
I'd be the best town player on the site at that point, sadly. Still working on that.
AaronFrost wrote:About 25 pages behind, will try to read some. Has Black Ranger been lynched yet?
He's like 1 or 2 away but Aly doesn't want him dead for some reason.
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Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:08 pm

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VOTE: black ranger
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Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:26 pm

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At this point,I can understand having lots of SRs,we're 100 pages in. That said I've always thought town should only really comment on people that have wagons and people they think really ought to. By producing six detailed reads at l-2 and not prioritising between them, this looks like a look-town move not a help town move, and That's the vibe I get from BR in general. I still think this is better than random to flip scum, and I will hammer in an hour when I get up for work (just got up to pee lol).
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Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:44 pm

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VOTE: Black Ranger
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Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:27 pm

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Erm, ok.
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Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:30 pm

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I was town but my role wasn't very important and I thought being leashed was worth less than just getting shit canned out of the game like this

Maybe I can sneak some reads in
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Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:31 pm

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In post 2491, chkflip wrote:Black Ranger is the lynch regardless of this late day shit he's doing. Should've played the fucking game earlier. You are the weakest link, goodbye.
I was the top poster in my hood and the members are still ignoring my questions what the fuck do you want from me you little goblin
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Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:37 pm

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A big problem in this game was my inability to make townreads. I'm naturally suspicious of people and very little moves the needle toward town so working backwards is an uphill battle. Yes, making townreads is strong in a game like this. I knew it and still couldn't do it because using the game thread was inconvenient. I figured out with the reveal of the second hood that part of the purpose of them was to break up the game and make towns more productive by using the hoods.

I was accused by Drixx for "playing" the hood and by "playing" I mean discussing reads and building
consensus on basic shit
. He should honestly just go next.

Kage was probably legitimate in their suspicion/ frustration with me.

Insomnia is a snake with dipshit theories nobody could possibly believe. He does moon logic as town but it's NITPICKY moonlogic that stretches something out that already exists into a stronger case than what he actually has. In this case, this "Drixx + BR scumteam, faking scum vs SK (????????????)" narrative he was building was disgusting and he has never admitted to it being an attempt to mess with the hood or anything that could POSSIBLY make it all right.
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Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:39 pm

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*hissssssssssss*

Flip SK already
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