Newbie 1989 (Game over!)

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 2.03

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Lynching

Doobietime

(3): Menalque, Atarashi Hajimari, 72offsuit

72offsuit

(1): Elmo TeH AzN

Not Voting

(3): Doobietime, WizenedWalrus, Iconeum

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-22 16:30:00).

Mod notes:

• Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.
  
• WizenedWalrus standing V/LA weekends.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

The whoever had been replaced 3x in the end. This shows how much attention to that slot. After the first and second replacement I'm really shocked they were filled so quickly. But it just turns into saving the mod time to die a replacement because it's annoying as fuck. To always be replacing someone.

1. Why waste time on a town consensus?

2. Why not what else am I going to do with it?

3. Exactly and you pull a reaction test in less then 24 hrs into it.

4. I'm saying it's trying to get towncred since you are pretty low on a lot of lists dear.

[72offsuit]

so who in the cage fight is scum exactly for you?

Walrus just joined the wagon early.
72 trying to get town cred now?
This wagon came way too quick for my liking honestly. It's almost as if we had a cop. And then you are telling me that scum never join wagons quickly for town credit.

So you have completely disregarded Doobie? You think Doobie is town?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I've disregarded no one with the exception of Menal. This game has just been very weird looking at it from it nk to the claims to just where we stand now.
It's paper tossing

[72offsuit]

The whoever had been replaced 3x in the end. This shows how much attention to that slot. After the first and second replacement I'm really shocked they were filled so quickly. But it just turns into saving the mod time to die a replacement because it's annoying as fuck. To always be replacing someone.

1. Why waste time on a town consensus?

2. Why not what else am I going to do with it?

3. Exactly and you pull a reaction test in less then 24 hrs into it.

4. I'm saying it's trying to get towncred since you are pretty low on a lot of lists dear.

1. You sound like you are hard-claiming scum here.
2. Actually put pressure on the most scummy slot. Which definitely wasn't clidd.
3. And your conclusion/analysis of this is?
4. Probably the only thing that you have said in these posts that makes any sense from a townie's point of view.

[72offsuit]

Im hammering

Vote: doobie

Uhhh.....you fucking what?

72 you better pray that Doobie flips red or you're so getting lynched tomorrow.

Your reaction is genuine and makes no impression of Doobie's alignment as you make no implication as to whether there is a tomorrow or not.

[Iconeum]

I've disregarded no one with the exception of Menal. This game has just been very weird looking at it from it nk to the claims to just where we stand now.
It's paper tossing

You think I might be scum?

The whoever had been replaced 3x in the end. This shows how much attention to that slot. After the first and second replacement I'm really shocked they were filled so quickly. But it just turns into saving the mod time to die a replacement because it's annoying as fuck. To always be replacing someone.

1. Why waste time on a town consensus?

2. Why not what else am I going to do with it?

3. Exactly and you pull a reaction test in less then 24 hrs into it.

4. I'm saying it's trying to get towncred since you are pretty low on a lot of lists dear.

1. You sound like you are hard-claiming scum here.
2. Actually put pressure on the most scummy slot. Which definitely wasn't clidd.
3. And your conclusion/analysis of this is?
4. Probably the only thing that you have said in these posts that makes any sense from a townie's point of view.

How come you have such a strong scumread on the 1 slot who was hell-bent on lynching the scum yesterday before anyone else?

Do you think Elmo bussed THAT hard on day 1 in a newbie?

[72offsuit]

If its not doobie, then its elmo.
Zero town cred for hammering when clidd was also going to hammer.
Furthermore was going to deny us the replacement through threatening with a quickhammer on esqylootz, which would have denied us scums fake dying FoS list.

Hi pot. I'm now a kettle.
Someone explain what just happened? This game went less then 24 hrs and we had a hammer. Lolwut

You give half the thread an opportunity to not reply. And yeah it's a hammer.

This reaction is scummy. I read Elmo as genuinely thinking I had hammered.
Elmo instantly goes into accuse-72-mode for hammering, as if she knows there will be a tomorrow.

[Atarashi Hajimari]

72 I think you're tunneling a bit too hard here.

Doobie is still the smart lynch today. That's going to happen regardless. Let's not get so distracted that she can skate by and get off the chopping block.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

1. You sound like you are hard-claiming scum here.
2. Actually put pressure on the most scummy slot. Which definitely wasn't clidd.
3. And your conclusion/analysis of this is?
4. Probably the only thing that you have said in these posts that makes any sense from a townie's point of view.

1. You know I get this a lot. And I think you should look into the mirror more.

2 So your good with someone holding their vote for no reason then? And not wanting to vote on anyone? Sorry chief. That's not my style. We play different styles.

3. Another gambit of this thread. The fact that you have to tunnel me now reminds me of old scum metas.

4. Have you ever replaced into a slot that just gets lynched before? I've done it quite a few times.


A. This game makes me rethink everything on a daily basis. I don't get why you are still alive after the night with a claim. It doesn't add up at all.

Any game where even as a fake hammer mess then 24 hrs in would get this reaction. I was waiting for the gg flip.

[72offsuit]

I've disregarded no one with the exception of Menal. This game has just been very weird looking at it from it nk to the claims to just where we stand now.
It's paper tossing

You think I might be scum?

The whoever had been replaced 3x in the end. This shows how much attention to that slot. After the first and second replacement I'm really shocked they were filled so quickly. But it just turns into saving the mod time to die a replacement because it's annoying as fuck. To always be replacing someone.

1. Why waste time on a town consensus?

2. Why not what else am I going to do with it?

3. Exactly and you pull a reaction test in less then 24 hrs into it.

4. I'm saying it's trying to get towncred since you are pretty low on a lot of lists dear.

1. You sound like you are hard-claiming scum here.
2. Actually put pressure on the most scummy slot. Which definitely wasn't clidd.
3. And your conclusion/analysis of this is?
4. Probably the only thing that you have said in these posts that makes any sense from a townie's point of view.

How come you have such a strong scumread on the 1 slot who was hell-bent on lynching the scum yesterday before anyone else?

Do you think Elmo bussed THAT hard on day 1 in a newbie?

Seriously? -_- I had a scumread on Elmo yesterday and more scummy posts today.
Elmo's reaction to the fake-hammer sucks
Elmo was the last actual vote on the wagon and besides, newbies love to bus.
Elmo is newbie so the clidd kill makes sense given the play is (-)EV

Doobie is also newbie so Clidd kill also makes sense given the play is (-)EV
Hasn't done anything super scummy, but doesnt seem pro-town.

Walrus was early on the wagon, and of the 3 seems the least likely to have killed a non-clear.

I don;t think it matters really which of 2 we lynch, unless walrus has played it very well.

[72offsuit]

1. You sound like you are hard-claiming scum here.
2. Actually put pressure on the most scummy slot. Which definitely wasn't clidd.
3. And your conclusion/analysis of this is?
4. Probably the only thing that you have said in these posts that makes any sense from a townie's point of view.

1. You know I get this a lot. And I think you should look into the mirror more.

2 So your good with someone holding their vote for no reason then? And not wanting to vote on anyone? Sorry chief. That's not my style. We play different styles.

3. Another gambit of this thread. The fact that you have to tunnel me now reminds me of old scum metas.

4. Have you ever replaced into a slot that just gets lynched before? I've done it quite a few times.


1. LOL, what does this even mean?
2. Putting words in my mouth, lol. Show me where I said "holding your vote for no reason is good"
3. You're one of 2 slots that are most probably scum. And you have been scummy as today.

Contradiction. You weren;t waiting on a GG flip. You started accusing me of being scum for quick-hammering.
Your statement does not compute.

[72offsuit]

Hm, the quote box for Elmo disappeared in above post.

[72offsuit]

72 I think you're tunneling a bit too hard here.

Doobie is still the smart lynch today. That's going to happen regardless. Let's not get so distracted that she can skate by and get off the chopping block.

Whatever. I'm still playing the game. I still want to see if i picked right out of these 2.

[72offsuit]

72 I think you're tunneling a bit too hard here.

Doobie is still the smart lynch today. That's going to happen regardless. Let's not get so distracted that she can skate by and get off the chopping block.

I know. That's why my vote is still on doobie.

[Iconeum]

72 i simply disagree that Elmo's reaction to the fake hammer was scummy

[Iconeum]

intent to vote btw

claim your role, doobie, if you don't wanna be mislynched

[Elmo TeH AzN]

The fact that I'm called a noobie honestly hurts.

[Iconeum]

@Doobie can you answer this as well please?

Because Iconeum's SE status leads me to believe they wouldn't give away their alignment in their first post, but if Ico turns out to be scum, that's exactly what happened. Stupid, because it would be an absolutely horrendous poor play, but still doesn't make what I said incomprehensible.

You scumread me, partially because of this right?

However, you are townreading Menalque:

I'm still reading everybody, including Menalque. It would be stupid not to. But I'm leaning towards him being Town for now,

mostly because of his entrance

So I'm being scumread because of my opening and because 'I gave away my role/allignment in my opening post', and menal gets townread because of his opening.

And what did menal do with his opening?

Hello friends

I

Am
Mason

Am

Mason
Am
Sunshine
Only
Mason

He claimed masons.

So while i'm being scumread by doobie for what menal did, he is getting townread for it.

[Atarashi Hajimari]

I'mma be pretty happy with myself if I called out both scum within the start of D1.

[72offsuit]

I've disregarded no one with the exception of Menal. This game has just been very weird looking at it from it nk to the claims to just where we stand now.
It's paper tossing

It doesnt make sense then, as to why did you not mention doobie at all when asked about the players put in the cage

[Iconeum]

@ 72offsuit

1.

I believe you don't like me at all, regardless of the alignment you are in. Why did you appear to be more open in post 344, considering that only our reads are similar? why are you being more receptive to me when in the other two games you were totally against my considerations?

2.

Why did you never consider the possibility of me being a scum?

3.

Why do you prefer Walrus over Eqsy as a primary option for lynch?

4.

What would your guess be if you had to speculate who the second mason is?

5.

If Menalque happened to be scum in a hypothetical scenario, who do you think would be most likely to be his partner?

6.

Imagine that you are scum in this game, what would be your D1 strategy?

7.

What would be the possible partner if Hajimari were a scum?

8.

Last question: consider that you are PR in this game, but suddenly you noticed that Menalque and Ico claimed mason. You are, of course, not a mason, but you chose not to reveal yourself to the public. You believe that hiding may be beneficial in a way. Considering that your strategy was not to hold the CC today, what would be your course of action tomorrow?

[/b]

1 TBC... And this game so far I read you more as being town.

2. I have a townlean on you. I haven;t ruled you out as being mafia, you could most definitely be scum, I just don't see any scum-indicative behaviour so far.

3. I want to pressure Walrus more. There are still 4 days of D1. He is lurking and the posts he has posted don't give me the impression of a townie scum-hunting.

4. I don;t see how you asking me this and me responding to this is pro-town. If you or anyone else can explain and convince me of the benefit of this question, then I'll answer.

5. In the hypothetical scenario that Menal is mason:

Lotus/esqy - most probable, given post 213, where they say they believe the claim

NOT Ico - I doubt ico would have agreed to this plan and the response from ico was quite emphatic, felt like genuine frustration to mena's claim.
NOT Elmo - due to post 168 where she calls it a bad claim and because mena scumreads her
NOT me - because mena scum-read me

6. D1 strategy is to lynch the townie that I could most effectively paint as being scummy that looks like genuine scumhunting.

7. If Ata is scum, current read would be probably within {Clidd, Elmo, Walrus or Doobie} - middle tiers in reads list

8. I'd probably tentatively guess that its vanilla townie vs vanilla townie claiming masons
Depends on the night kill, depends on what my exact PR role was and what result i got from my night action.
If I had a guilty-ish/mafia-indicative report, I would allow for some scumhunting by town to proceed, see what evolves out of the mason claim situation if nethier claim died, and then out it towards the middle of the day: to allow for scumhunting early on, but to also allow enough time at the end of day for discussion of the report, my claim, and planning for the days ahead.

[/b]

IF doobie is town, ya'll should probably lynch 72 next I think.

This exchange feels like it might have felt to 72off that Clidd was a power role playing on menal and my claims. 72's answer makes me feel this way.

[72offsuit]

I'mma be pretty happy with myself if I called out both scum within the start of D1.

Yep, i correctly voted scum day 1 rather than voting on the wagon on a townie, then pegged both scum early day 2, and then i got lynched straigjt after that, lol.

I felt really vindicated post game. It felt good

[72offsuit]

I'mma be pretty happy with myself if I called out both scum within the start of D1.

Yep, i correctly voted scum day 1 rather than voting on the wagon on a townie, then pegged both scum early day 2, and then i got lynched straigjt after that, lol.

I felt really vindicated post game. It felt good

[72offsuit]

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