Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

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VC 1.2

popsofctown (3):

Ame, Wiisp, Taly

TheFuzzylogic99 (2):

Yshtola Rhul, Taco

Taco (1):

Paragon

Robbnva (1):

Rabid Schnauzer

Rabid Schnauzer (1):

Robbnva

Taly (1):

eyestott

Ame (1):

popsofctown

Not Voting:

TheFuzzylogic99, Aloratom

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-30 07:05:00)

[Yshtola Rhul]

Paragon, do you agree with the notion that Robbnva is a little higher than rand to be town for not forcing content early? Or is he a little higher than rand to be scum because he should have naturally noticed some AI thingies I can't decide eugh

Do you have reason to believe that he would be forcing content earlier as mafia?

[Taly]

Paragon

, since this exercise was ignored previously and I want to see more of your input on a few things:

Wiisp/Taly

- S/S-S/T-T/T

pops/Ame

- S/S-S/T-T/T

If either group contains scum, why?

Wiisp

, do you have any notable reads or thoughts on anybody I mention below?

Y'shtola

, where's your vote going right now? Is it still

Fuzzy

? If so, I'm sorely unconvinced.

:/ Other than this I'm really just waiting for

Rabid/Fuzzy/Taco/Robb

to engage and

eyestott/Ame

to continue their reads/explanations.

[Robbnva]

I really don't know how to get a foot into the game. I haven't seen anything super scummy yet.

[Yshtola Rhul]

Hello Taly!

Is there anywhere in particular my vote should be at? I still require more to be able to judge upon my own merits.

[Paragon]

Thank you for the question, Taly. I guess this is why they call you the best.

I don't have time to read back right now, so I will have to answer based solely on memory. I shall provide a more complete answer at a later time.

Ame has been strange since she replaced in. She has differed from her town meta in certain ways, but also represented behaviour which I'm very used to from her town meta. I will give her time and not list the reasons I am thinking of, as I believe they are suboptimal to state at this current moment.
popsofctown feels a little less solvely and carefree than what I'm used to. Nothing has pinged me as scummy however.
Wiisp had good thoughts recently, and him calling me probably town while I had him as my top scumread would be an unwise play if he was mafia, I think.
Taly is proactive and his solving appears to be in good faith.

Taly/Wiisp > T/T
pops/Ame > S/T or T/T. Unsure right now.

Ame/pops as S/S I don't see unless a

certain thing

happens, then it's a possibility but still unlikely.

[Paragon]

Paragon, do you agree with the notion that Robbnva is a little higher than rand to be town for not forcing content early? Or is he a little higher than rand to be scum because he should have naturally noticed some AI thingies I can't decide eugh

Yes, I do think Robbnva may have felt incentivised as scum to make something up or force some content by this point. I found his " I don't know what's going on. Are there any wagons?" post scummy however. Overall, he is >randtown. I appreciate the question.

Questioning Quota: 1

Why are those scummy though? If I were scum I’d definitely be more aware.

I have no way of verifying this, Robb. I have only seen you as town and you were more present in the game by this stage. Thank you for he question.

Questioning Quota: 3

[Robbnva]

I have no way of verifying this, Robb. I have only seen you as town and you were more present in the game by this stage. Thank you for he question.

scum in general are more aware. Every game I am involved in, it's because somebody has done something that is so blatantly scummy or somebody has lied about me. neither of those things have happened.

plus i have adopted a new philosophy which I have used in a couple games already and will use going forward. I will vote anyone but myself. especially day 1.

[Robbnva]

I have realized I love chaos, I try to create it and then death tunnel somebody who gets sucked in. That is what I was trying to do with rabid. I wanted to see how he would react to my omgus vote. I wanted to see how others reacted to my omgus vote.

When I said I had no idea what's going on, I was also high af which is probably not the time to play mafia, but now today I still don't really see any good pushes. I don't see good reasons. I am also sort of glazing over posts cause I really am not in on the conversations.

so you are correct in that you aren't seeing typical rob. I probably have like 10 games where i get lost. I usually end up replacing out, but I won't here. I will get caught up on my work and try and re-read the game soon.

[Taly]

Hello Taly!

Is there anywhere in particular my vote should be at? I still require more to be able to judge upon my own merits.

OK, then look at this past page between

pops/I

And comment on

Paragon's

230

While you're at it, respond to

eyestott's

post on you, it was a few pages ago.

I have no way of verifying this, Robb. I have only seen you as town and you were more present in the game by this stage. Thank you for he question.

scum in general are more aware. Every game I am involved in, it's because somebody has done something that is so blatantly scummy or somebody has lied about me. neither of those things have happened.

plus i have adopted a new philosophy which I have used in a couple games already and will use going forward. I will vote anyone but myself. especially day 1.

You could vote somewhere or join a wagon, we actually have one based off reads.

We got fucking cookies

p-edit

Yeah, chaos can be... helpful in gamesolving later when a bunch of town have already killed each other.

[Robbnva]

waiting on the vc which should come soon?

[Robbnva]

VOTE: pops

[Aloratom]

Ame, what makes you feel so confident that Pops is scum? Is this meta?

Thank you for asking this. I must admit it was all part of my masterplan to hint at someone else to ask Ame about her popsofctown read.

For those who don't understand what this questioning quota is;

I will now fullclaim:

At the beginning of the game, I started with a quota of questions I could ask other players.
Every time I ask a question, the number goes down by 1.
Every time I answer another player's question, the number goes up by 1.

My quota is currently at 1 since I recently answered a question from Taly. I will be using my questions more wisely. I also encourage people to ask me more questions so that I can replenish my quota.

It's a normal game though?

I was thinking this too. Is there a role in the normal queue that would have a post cap?

[Aloratom]

Warriors of Light (no particular order):

Taly, Paragon, Yshtola, Alo, New Beginnings

Angelic (npo):

eyestott*, Robb, Taco

Demonic (npo):

Rabid Schnauzer, Fuzzy, Wisp

Sin Eaters:

pops

VOTE: pops

*keeping my eyes on eyes

What is New Beginnings?

I think Conspire, whose one post the more I look at, the more I think is an attempt to take something innocuous and read something scummy into it. Without follow-up from them it's difficult to get a decent read, but right now they're in my suspicious group.

[Taly]

Conspire's

not even in the plist and I'm sure is

Paragon's

alt who he accidentally posted under 38 and 39

I don't know how this detail was missed.

How about you comment on what's present in the game right now?

[Aloratom]

Conspire's

not even in the plist and I'm sure is

Paragon's

alt who he accidentally posted under 38 and 39

I don't know how this detail was missed.

How about you comment on what's present in the game right now?

Okay. I've got to go back and read in that context. I missed the makeup somehow. Thanks.

[Paragon]

Taly, could I hear your opinion on Ame/pops interactions and where you think the Ts and Ss should go please?

2

[Paragon]

popsofctown is on L-1.

[Aloratom]

popsofctown is on L-1.

That's not even close to true. Not a good test if that's what you're after.

[Paragon]

Oh, apologies, I'm used to micros.

[Paragon]

popsofctown is on L-3.

[Paragon]

Aloratom, who is your strongest townread and why? Thank you very much.

1

[Taly]

Taly, could I hear your opinion on Ame/pops interactions and where you think the Ts and Ss should go please?

2

I'll have a better idea when

Ame

posts her rationale, but my original impression of her entrance is that this is not quite like what little I know of her to be scum. I think her strongly stated confidence can go either town or scum. I do agree with her read on

pops

but I don't know how she came to her conclusions there, same with this slot. Ultimately, she's a town lean because she hasn't posted any fluff so far, so her stances feel less contrived.

Pops

is someone I want to read a bit at a distance for the moment. Most of her interaction with the thread has been through me, so I'm waiting for her to actually initiate with other people. I don't see a reason to change my vote from the wagon or my read there. I lean scum but my odds with

Pops

can be playstyle, still, her reactions in the game don't feel too natural and I'd figure she would have had more nuanced opinions about the plist so far.

This isn't high confidence but I doubt this is T-T. S-T most likely. S-S is possible if

Ame

is intentionally trying to hard-buss her partner to get credit, but there's little evidence for that yet and this is a train of thought I won't act on until one of them flips scum.

Pops'

vote flip from me to

Ame

was also very quick in my eyes, which is more of something to note for now and inquire about later. I'm more confident in

Ame

town and

Pops

scum, but I'm not ruling out T-T just yet either, or even

Ame

-scum

Pops

-town.

pops-scum/ame-town

is my most confident answer at this moment.

[Aloratom]

Aloratom, who is your strongest townread and why? Thank you very much.

1

Not much more than a Town lean on anyone right now. Wiisp v Robb seems TvT, but that's not original. Neither seems afraid of confrontation. Pops' "reverse survivalism" puts a label on it.

[Aloratom]

Aloratom, who is your strongest townread and why? Thank you very much.

1

Not much more than a Town lean on anyone right now. Wiisp v Robb seems TvT, but that's not original. Neither seems afraid of confrontation. Pops' "reverse survivalism" puts a label on it.

I'll add that I don't have the meta on players that a lot of you do. Players that have experience with others can use meta to spin things different ways, so that makes me wary of assigning Town or mafia labels to those with deep meta reads.