Mini 2123: Greatest Idea IX - Game Over

[EspressoPatronum]

I'm assuming that's why TL and CSF claimed VT -- it's easy to get away with.

TemporalLich claimed Town Watcher.

He claimed VT as alignment

[EspressoPatronum]

Can I get a summary on claims please? I didn't pay much attention since I was getting back to Chile (we did it by the way!! Got extremely lucky)

I'm compiling them all together + will post a big list combined with Micc's card deck.

Eta tonight or tomorrow.

[Sujimichi]

1. EspressoPatronum
   - Town Rolecop
   • Checked SirCakez Night 1 - Seer
     
   • Checked Pink Ball Night 2 - Roleblocker
2. Kerset
   - Town 1-shot Day Vigilante
   • Shot Cat Scratch Fever Day 3
3. Sujimichi
   - Town Watcher
   • Watched TemporalLich Night 1 - SirCakez visited
     
   • Watched Cat Scratch Fever Night 2 - No one visited.
4. GlowingOvineChimes
   - Town Vigilante
   • Shot BBmolla Night 1
   • Shot Untrod Tripod Night 2
5. Sircakez
   - Town Seer
   • Checked TemporalLich Night 1 with a negative result
     
   • Check EspressoPatronum Night 2 with a negative result
6. Pink Ball
   - Town Roleblocker
   • Blocked Cat Scratch Fever Night 1
     
   • Blocked Untrod Tripod Night 2

[EspressoPatronum]

2) While it's hard for me to now prove my role, I can still be used to validate existing claims. For what it's worth, I made a comment earlier about SirCakez having a reduced chance of being scum. My thought process there is that picking the seer power as WW is terrible, so he's almost certainly not WW.

Why did you not assume he could have been a Mafia Seer? I would think that it would be a beneficial power as that alignment.

I said 'reduced chance of scum' (meaning any evil faction) because I assumed he would not be a WW seer. He very well could be a mafia or SK seer.

For context, here's my original comment before claims:

Not sure why there were no scum kills but if it was due to a protective- good job! Keep it up!

As for my reads today, I think suji and CSF are definitely town, kerset and pb are most likely town so that leaves espresso and sircakez as scum

Thoughts?

What makes you think CSF and Kerset are town?

I have a role-related reason to believe Sircakez has a reduced chance of being scum, so I'm interested to see why you think he's scum. More importantly, what faction?

[Sujimichi]

Thank you.

[GlowingOvineChimes]

That's great. If game hasn't ended Id suggest lynching the baby seal and if THAT doesn't ends the game then at least it becomes nightless allegedly and we let EP target everyone

How does the game become nightless?

There was only one kill last night, claimed by the baby seal.

We could also no lynch today, I roleblock baby seal and let the investigators get more info. I trust EP; he could tell us if someone is lying about their roles.

Then we could have him check me, because honestly a town vig is very beneficial for town

[SirCakez]

No particular reason he's just not sticking out as a townread to me.
That could really be said about everyone who is left except Pink Ball though..

Then why did you choose me and GlowingOvineChimes specifically if "that could really be said about everyone who is left except Pink Ball?"

Because I was thinking in the context of Kerset Espresso and Pink having claimed provable roles
But I've since reconsidered b/c proven roles doesn't mean town here
That's why I'm hoping for Titus input cuz I'm a bit lost on this one

[GlowingOvineChimes]

Could there not have been another unclaimed shot at the same target?

Mafia shooting UT? That would be stupid, but yeah sure they could have

Why would it be stupid for mafia to shoot UT?

[GlowingOvineChimes]

Tbh mafia aligned RB would be absolute bomb this game. Why is PB town again?

[Pink Ball]

Lol

[Pink Ball]

That's the most survivalistic move I have ever seen in this site.

I like it, good job.

[EspressoPatronum]

Tbh mafia aligned RB would be absolute bomb this game. Why is PB town again?

I can't see a world where the right play for mafia!PB is to CC mafia!TL on D2. In such a high kill power game, it seems like scum numbers mean everything here.

[Kerset]

There is still unknown Titus n1 action

[Pink Ball]

Good catch

[EspressoPatronum]

Titus might as well full claim, too. We know she's town, but knowing her alignment card could possibly help us down the line.

[Kerset]

Sircakez is confirmed to be seer and that he visited member of mafia on n1. He wouldn't visit maf as maf and he wouldn't pick seer as ww so he is top town for me.

[Pink Ball]

Yeah for me it's between Ovine and EP basically

[GlowingOvineChimes]

Titus might as well full claim, too. We know she's town, but knowing her alignment card could possibly help us down the line.

Didn't micc give her full role at the flip?

[Pink Ball]

I'd say the best course of action is no lynching today and asking Ovine to shoot EP; if EP flips town, we lynch her. But I'm a little impatient and I'd rather lynch Ovine today 'cause I think she's the remaining scum. At least PT called CSF out so he got that going for him.

VOTE: GlowingOvineChimes

[GlowingOvineChimes]

I'd say the best course of action is no lynching today and asking Ovine to shoot EP; if EP flips town, we lynch her. But I'm a little impatient and I'd rather lynch Ovine today 'cause I think she's the remaining scum. At least PT called CSF out so he got that going for him.

VOTE: GlowingOvineChimes

Let me shoot EP tonight and you can lynch me tomorrow

[GlowingOvineChimes]

Or better yet, let's lynch EP. Game over

VOTE: Espresso Patronum

[EspressoPatronum]

Titus might as well full claim, too. We know she's town, but knowing her alignment card could possibly help us down the line.

Didn't micc give her full role at the flip?

Unless I'm mistaken, we know that Titus has a town alignment, but we don't know what her card is.

Titus has been killed by a Bloodsucker Night 1. She is a

Town Follower

turned

Town Treestump

.
BBmolla has been killed Night 1. He was a

Survivor Conspiracy Theorist

.
Yshtola Rhul has been killed Night 1. She was a

Town Mason Cop

.

It is now Day 2.

Votecount 2.00

Not Voting (9) -

TemporalLich, Pink Ball, EspressoPatronum, GlowingOvineChimes, Kerset, Sujimichi, Untrod Tripod, SirCakez, Cat Scratch Fever

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-03-26 14:00:00).

[EspressoPatronum]

Summary of Claims

TemporalLich:

Align - unknown mafia
Role - mafia watcher
Discard - WW tracker

Titus

Align - unknown town
Role - town follower
Discard - alien BP lover

Pink Ball/TrueSoulEnergy

Align - VT
Role - unknown roleblocker
Discard - town compulsive BG

EspressoPatronum

Align - town FBI agent
Role - town rolecop
Discard - mafia ninja

GlowingOvineChimes

Align - town retired marine
Role - town vigilante
Discard - VT

BBmolla

Align - unknwon survivor
Role - conspiracy theorist
Discard - tentacled town

Kerset

Align - VT
Role - one-shot dayvig
Discard - SK Alien-immune

Non lmh

Align - wild card (town compulsive hider)
Role - unknown jailkeeper
Discard - VT

Sujimichi

Align - town JOAT
Role - town watcher
Discard - maf goon

Untrod Tripod

Align - unknown WW
Role - alien bloodsucker
Discard - hirsute goon

Yshtola Rhul

Align - town gravedigger
Role - town mason cop
Discard - town cop

SirCakez

Align - town conspiracy theorist
Role - mafia seer
Discard - WW cop

Cat Scratch Fever

Align - unknown WW
Role - alien one-shot mass redirector
Discard - alpha WW

Micc's deck

Town Cards (80)

1.

Vanilla Townie

Nom Imh discard
2.

Vanilla Townie

GOC discard
3.

Vanilla Townie

TSE/PB alignment claim
4.

Vanilla Townie

Kerset alignment claim
5. Vanilla Townie
6. Vanilla Townie
7. Vanilla Townie
8. Vanilla Townie
9. Vanilla Townie
10. Vanilla Townie
11. Vanilla Townie
12. Vanilla Townie
13. Vanilla Townie
14.

Town Cop

Yshtola discard
15. Town Cop
16. Town Seer
17. Town Seer
18.

Town FBI Agent

EP alignment
19. Town FBI Agent
20.

Town Conspiracy Theorist

SirCakez alignment claim
21.

Town Conspiracy Theorist

BB role
22. Town Conspiracy Theorist
23. Town Bloodhound
24. Town Miller
25. Hirsute Townie
26.

Tentacled Townie

BB discard
27. Watchlisted Townie
28. Wrong Place at the Wrong Time Townie
29. Town Lover
30. Town Lover
31. Town Cop Lover
32. Town Seer Lover
33. Town Mason Lover
34. Town Mason
35. Town Mason
36.

Town Mason Cop

Yshtola role
37. Town Mason Seer
38. Town Mason Doctor
39. Town Doctor
40. Town Doctor
41.

Town Compulsive Bodyguard

TSE/PB discard
42.

Town Watcher

Suji role claim
43. Town Tracker
44. Town Roleblocker
45. Town Jailkeeper
46. Town One-Shot Vigilante
47. Town One-Shot Vigilante
48.

Town One-Shot Dayvig

Kerset role
49. Town One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
50. Town Supersaint
51.

Town Compulsive Hider

- Nom Imh's alignment 2
52. Town Bulletproof Lover
53.

Town Vigilante

GOC role claim
54. Town Weak Fruit Vendor
55. Town Fruit Vendor
56. Town Compulsive Childkiller
57.

Town Jack-of-all-trades

Suji alignment claim
58. Vengeful Townie
59.

Town Retired Marine

GOC alignment claim
60. Ascetic Townie
61.

Town Gravedigger

Yshtola alignment
62. Town Nymphomaniac
63. Town One-Shot Governor
64. Town Innocent Child
65. Town Treestump
66. Town One-Shot Kingmaker
67. Town Weak Jailkeeper
68. Town Vanilla Cop
69. Town Compulsive Visitor
70. Town One-Shot Commuter
71. Town Cop-of-all-Trades
72. Town One-shot Gladiator
73. Town Lynchbait
74. Town Psychiatrist
75. Town Reloader
76. Town Parrot Role
77. Town Motion Detector
78. Town Voyeur
79.

Town Follower

Titus role
80.

Town Rolecop

EP role

Mafia Cards (19)

81.

Mafia Goon

Suji discard
82. Mafia Goon
83. Mafia Goon
84. Mafia Goon
85.

Mafia Seer

SirCakez role claim
86.

Hirsute Goon

UT discard
87. Mafia Lover
88. Mafia Doctor
89. Mafia Watcher
90. Mafia Tracker
91. Mafia Roleblocker
92. Mafia Jailkeeper
93. Mafia Strongman
94.

Mafia Ninja

EP discard
95. Mafia One-Shot Bulletproof
96. Mafia One-Shot Dayvig
97. Mafia Godfather
98. Mafia Cupid
99. Mafia Reflexive Doctor

Werewolf Cards (19)

100. Werewolf
101. Werewolf
102. Werewolf
103. Werewolf
104.

Werewolf Cop

SirCakez discard
105. Werewolf Miller
106. Werewolf Mason
107. Werewolf Doctor
108. Werewolf Watcher
119.

Werewolf Tracker

TL discard
110. Werewolf Roleblocker
111. Werewolf Jailkeeper
112. Werewolf Strongman
113. Werewolf Ninja
114. Werewolf One-Shot Bulletproof
115. Werewolf One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
116.

Alpha Werewolf

CSF discard
117. Werewolf Supersaint
118. Werewolf Compulsive Hider

Alien Cards (9)

119.

Alien Bulletproof Lover

Titus discard
120. Alien One-Shot Unlynchable
121. Alien Prober
122. Alien Vanillaiser
123. Alien Silencer
124. Alien Psychotrooper
125.

Alien One-Shot Mass Redirector

CSF role
126.

Alien Bloodsucker

UT role
127. Alien Sympathiser

Self Aligned Cards (10)

128. Lyncher (target to the left)
129. Lyncher (target to the right)
130.

Survivor

BBmolla alignment
131. Survivor Mason
132. Survivor Compulsive Bodyguard
133. Serial Killer One-Shot Unlynchable
134. Serial Killer Two-Shot Bulletproof
135. Serial Killer Mafia-Immune
136. Serial Killer Werewolf-Immune
137.

Serial Killer Alien-Immune

Kerset discard

Alignment Changing Cards (3)

138. One-Shot Townie
139. Underdog
140.

Wild Card

Nom Imh alignment 1

NOTES:

- Nom Imh's role was one of the 3 JK cards (town/WW/maf), but it is unclear which one.
- TL claimed VT alignment but had an unknown mafia card for alignment
- CSF claimed black goo for alignment but had an unknown WW card for alignment
- UT had an unknown WW card for alignment

[EspressoPatronum]

@PB I think your earlier no-lynch strat is better. If you keep the killing roles RB'd, it'll allow me to investigate the roles to validate role claims. Meanwhile, Cakez will be able to scan for more WWs. Suji's watcher can be a possible failsafe if the the night isn't deathless.

I learned my lesson from our close call with the 3ps in MM2. Better to play it slow than risk the game over being too hasty.

[GlowingOvineChimes]

PB if you think I'm mafia then RB me so that people can check my role and alignment