Newbie 1988 | Octopus | Over

[Titus]

The safer play is for any surviving tprs to claim here but I don't think that's the better play - wld prefer to enter f5 first regardless of how today finishes

Tbh I don't think? if the surviving tpr exists, they should claim yet

pedit: I wasn't softing tpr Titus.

This is why Wooper is scum. His play is about fishing the TPR, not finding scum.

[Wooper]

yeah... shutting down aloof mechtalk by insisting the tpr doesn't claim sure is finishing...

you read the rest of my iso where I've been heavily scumhunting?

[LuckyLuciano]

The safer play is for any surviving tprs to claim here but I don't think that's the better play - wld prefer to enter f5 first regardless of how today finishes

Tbh I don't think? if the surviving tpr exists, they should claim yet

pedit: I wasn't softing tpr Titus.

What if Crush claims TPR? If he does, the game is solved, no?

[Wooper]

Sorry LL. It might be easier for me to explain in d3 but I can't reply to #1127 rn

[Titus]

The safer play is for any surviving tprs to claim here but I don't think that's the better play - wld prefer to enter f5 first regardless of how today finishes

Tbh I don't think? if the surviving tpr exists, they should claim yet

pedit: I wasn't softing tpr Titus.

What if Crush claims TPR? If he does, the game is solved, no?

If Crush claims TPR, either a) he gives a result or b) he gets CCed c) he has no result and he wants to avoid being blocked again. That covers all universes even the false ones I believe. Some may overlap.

[Wooper]

might be better if people re-think having this conversation but w/e
if you do please remember you are all good vanilla townies who have no idea what the setup is and proceed accordingly with vague language

it's very easy to drop slips which prove you're coming from a perspective of knowing more than a vt

I am also p sure we're dealing with scum!Mena and Mena has generally very keen intuition so like

please speak carefully

[LuckyLuciano]

Do you really think the mafia doesn't have someone in it that realized what we were talking about a long time ago?

[Wooper]

hmmm
@cjv
if you can somehow prove to homura that you're town this game gets a lot easier
if mena flips green this is doubly true

[Crush]

Ah I might just be stupid, never mind.

[Wooper]

I have two responses to #1131 and can't really give either rn

[LuckyLuciano]

Fair enough. I wish Homura or CJN would get on so we can move on to day 3.

[Wooper]

This is kinda the part of the game where I get restless too.

[Menalque]

Wooper, if you’re town then why has it felt like you’ve been really uninterested in working with me vs pushing me ever since I repped in?

[Menalque]

Is it unreasonable of me to expect town!you to have a high level of desire to work with me even in a case where you dislike my pushes or think I’m scummy?

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 2.12

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Lynching

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Menalque

(3): Wooper, LuckyLuciano, Crush

Wooper

(1): Titus

LuckyLuciano

(1): Menalque

Not Voting

(2): Homura, ceejayvinoya

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-22 19:00:00).

Mod notes:

ceejayvinoya¹ has been prodded and has (expired on 2020-03-20 10:05:05) to post before I start looking for a replacement[/area]

[LuckyLuciano]

I think I just need to get used to how long games take on mafiascum. I have literally modded a 13 DP game before that finished in just under a month.

[LuckyLuciano]

Menalque, I'm not sure why you want everyone to drop their reads of your slot because you replaced in. The slot's alignment doesn't change when it's pilot is replaced.

[Wooper]

I think I tried like quite hard to work with you overall especially given you rep'd into a poe slot tbqh

I've really felt like you haven't showed as much read development as I have, our reads blatantly jar, you didn't hanlde my slot in good faith, and you're like expecting me to bend over backwards to extract more content from you now that I actively think you're outed scum at L-1?

I'd love to work with you but not when I have to do 90% of the work and it feels like you're conversing with me nearly exclusively to try and make me look bad

[Wooper]

LL is right too tbh buuut

I think Mena is angling at something else - I respect his towngame

Given how generally crappy our dialogues have been this game I think him raising it is more likely appealing to some combination of {my emotion, onlookers' biases}

but I do think he's getting at more than "I've played better than non. Townread me."

[LuckyLuciano]

@Wooper. I'm curious, now that you seem to be TRing Titus, who do you think is Mena's scumbuddy?

[Menalque]

The lack of content from ceejay, Titus, and crush is killing the game because it means there's not any fresh insight coming through, and it's also meaning that in the case that most of this is TvT then scum are able to simply blend into the background with inactive town players.

If you think there's a lack of content from me, you're making a huge mistake.

I am lock clearing ceejay even more than you.

Since I repped in, you haven’t been here to talk as much as I want and I would expect more from you as a strong town voice. Like I very much feel like I’ve been in an uphill battle talking to LL and wooper and it would have been nice to have you at least participating in that

[Titus]

I think I tried like quite hard to work with you overall especially given you rep'd into a poe slot tbqh

I've really felt like you haven't showed as much read development as I have, our reads blatantly jar, you didn't hanlde my slot in good faith, and you're like expecting me to bend over backwards to extract more content from you now that I actively think you're outed scum at L-1?

I'd love to work with you but not when I have to do 90% of the work and it feels like you're conversing with me nearly exclusively to try and make me look bad

Why can't Homura be scum?

[Titus]

The lack of content from ceejay, Titus, and crush is killing the game because it means there's not any fresh insight coming through, and it's also meaning that in the case that most of this is TvT then scum are able to simply blend into the background with inactive town players.

If you think there's a lack of content from me, you're making a huge mistake.

I am lock clearing ceejay even more than you.

Since I repped in, you haven’t been here to talk as much as I want and I would expect more from you as a strong town voice. Like I very much feel like I’ve been in an uphill battle talking to LL and wooper and it would have been nice to have you at least participating in that

I am not on lockdown like a good chunk of the rest of the thread. I also am the errand girl for our household. It leads me to being very busy. I'm doing all I can.

[LuckyLuciano]

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This projection is super low-effort.

1) Non is scum, and there are reasons for it.
2) Menalque posted a lot, therefore I will unvote an re-evaluate.
3) I am going to go through Menalque's iso and review wagons (something that never happened), to better read him.
4) ???
5) Menal convinced me he's town, and there are no reasons for it.

I know you are just going to act like I'm reading your interaction with Menal in bad faith yada yada, but anyone can read you iso and see this transition is true to what you have posted and allowed us to see. You literally have not given a single reason why you believe Menal is town. I mean, honestly, what prompted you to post that Menal convinced you he's town without telling us a single way that he convinced you?

[Titus]

Melanque's conduct is a lot different than nom's and the wagon on him feels built on hysteria than actual evidence. Particularly Wooper's comments about Mel is good at reading between the lines so we should lynch him for that. That's wrong because scum have day chat in newbies now I believe.