Newbie 1992 | Game Over

[Menalque]

i don't know what to do about datisi

I really don't like the sudden shift in tone she just had

where he started talking to you or where he reacted to the trq mason thing

the shift in talking to me

[Datisi]

what shift
you mena me getting pissed off that i'm being shitpushed for calling people "friend" and you, with a CLAIMED FUCKING PROFFICIENCY IN READING ME, is going "ah yes trq is town for that"

like what the fuck did you expect me NOT to get angry?

[Menalque]

ok so

1) melaque is town.
2) menalque said he thinks you're town so you're town too

fmpov the last votecount then looks very ~weird~ because wtf are the scum doing

and if this game was ~easy~ then all scum would be in trq/marashu/empty-slot

but this kinda weird gamestate of mostly everyone tring or nullreading (i'm ignoring the sring you and mena have on me bc it makes sense) makes me think that scum is in the more tred half

and both gw and madu are doing sorta "didn't datisi say he's sick?" "i won't use meta, i'll wait until datisi does sth sus" thing
which kinda strikes me as tmi-y, positioning for my green flip

clidd is still a mystery but he also fits the bill of ~more tred players~

can you try to explain why you're TRing me rn dats? bc I really don't feel like I've done anything that's meaningfully townie yet and everything I've done thus far is well within my scum range

it is purely gut/experience, you just feel pure and -not awkward-, like in Autumnal
and the way you're approaching my slot feels genuine

+ if i'm right then i've figured out a factual scum/towntell from you, ask me later

like from the above to the below:

mena
when i flip town
and if you're town this game

i don't
EVER
want to hear you talk shit about being able to read me

because you fucking can't

like
mena
is literally the only thing you have to say to that shitpush "it doesn't come from scum"

mena
when i flip town
and if you're town this game

i don't
EVER
want to hear you talk shit about being able to read me

because you fucking can't

so me potentially misreading you like one game erases all the times I have read you correctly?

lmao
what
completed games
you read me correctly in autumnal and calendar
misread me in 1949 and just don't die

that's 2 to 2
so please

what did you think felt bad faithy about it?

is your name jared and are you 19

becuase maybe you can't fucking read

i don't know what to do about datisi

I really don't like the sudden shift in tone she just had

so my tone before is bad
the shift is bad
what about my shift here is actually bad?

[Datisi]

I NEVER SAID I THINK YOU'RE SCUM I THINK YOU'RE FUCKING BLIND AND CONFBIASING

[Menalque]

what shift
you mena me getting pissed off that i'm being shitpushed for calling people "friend" and you, with a CLAIMED FUCKING PROFFICIENCY IN READING ME, is going "ah yes trq is town for that"

like what the fuck did you expect me NOT to get angry?

yeah basically

like I think trq is pushing you for mad reasons, but I think there's a very good chance that makes trq town

we've talked about this before, and you know very well,or should do, that people making pushes for bad reasons doesn't make them scum especially when they're being as outright unreasonable about it as trq

and I especially doubt that trq makes a play like this as a newbie, as I think the batshit insane push play normally takes some experience and confidence to work up to as scum

[Menalque]

I NEVER SAID I THINK YOU'RE SCUM I THINK YOU'RE FUCKING BLIND AND CONFBIASING

I know you didn't but idk why you think yelling at me is gonna help me read you better if you are town?

[Menalque]

esp given that I've been very clear that I don't agree with trq's push on you

but I can think that without believing that trq is scum for a bad push

[Menalque]

also you trying to future BoP me on my ability to read you feels icky

[Menalque]

because it's v emotionally manipulative and it is kind of working

[skitter30]

as a random aside, i think that it's funny that some of my mannerisms are filtering through to other people

like the ~tildas~
and the word 'icky'

[Menalque]

I think your entire playstyle filtered through to me to an extent

my use of "go on" was very much inspired by "do tell"

[Datisi]

i still don't see thefuck you mean by change in tone
like
agh holy shit
i don't even know what to say
i'm angry
i'm frustrated because i was so happy to play in this game but this had to be the one other game where i'm not able to towntell
and then i'm getting shitpushed for most insane fucking reasons
and by someone who claims to be able to read me but uses shit like postcount

[Datisi]

and it's like "oh the push is so batchit insane it's town"

like yeah?? maybe?? like personally rn i'm maybe 30-40% on trq actually being scum but holy fucking shit

[Menalque]

and by someone who claims to be able to read me but uses shit like postcount

what

I haven't brought up postcount at all?

[Datisi]

yeah not in this game

you used in as a spectator in 1976

[Menalque]

i still don't see thefuck you mean by change in tone

I mean you shifted from interacting with me in a positive if slightly frustrated way to being hyper aggressive and frustrated with me supposedly reading you incorrectly

and okay, that may be your honest emotional reaction in which case I feel really sorry but it could also be you seeing that getting TR via pocketing isn't working and being emotionally manipulative instead

[Maduisha]

it's hard for me to believe that she actually thinks - 'the word friend means he's fake-crumbing mason in the event he thinks i'm a mason and wants to kill me so that he can cc my real mason partner tomorrow'

*after* we established that trq's mason-claim to start the game was obviously fake

like i have trouble believing she thinks that's a real possibility

Wait, that's also true... first she voted Marashu for believing the claim, meaning she was proclaiming it fake with that vote on him, now she's pushing Datisi over fake crumbing the mason claim that everyone

including

herself had in mind as fake... the thought process doesn't click for me.

Well, the whole accusation doesn't click for me because it sounds absurd, but the thought process behind it is actually the head scratcher here.

[Menalque]

idk if this is within your scumrange or not tho tbh

[Datisi]

like i'm trying to determine whether i'm right on my idea that scum is in the more townread players or if trq's bullshit is actually oportunistic scum

but like i feel like i'm not even being listened to

and

agh

[Menalque]

but it's like super super unpleasant for me bc I want to believe it's true and to respect your emotional state but also I'm worried that you're playing me here by saying stuff like "you don't ever get to say you can read me again once I flip" because that's some major guilt trip shit

[Menalque]

like i'm trying to determine whether i'm right on my idea that scum is in the more townread players or if trq's bullshit is actually oportunistic scum

but like i feel like i'm not even being listened to

and

agh

I am listening to you and happy to talk about it, but yelling at me and guilting me doesn't really help me to feel

good

about reading you

[skitter30]

it's hard for me to believe that she actually thinks - 'the word friend means he's fake-crumbing mason in the event he thinks i'm a mason and wants to kill me so that he can cc my real mason partner tomorrow'

*after* we established that trq's mason-claim to start the game was obviously fake

like i have trouble believing she thinks that's a real possibility

Wait, that's also true... first she voted Marashu for believing the claim, meaning she was proclaiming it fake with that vote on him, now she's pushing Datisi over fake crumbing the mason claim that everyone

including

herself had in mind as fake... the thought process doesn't click for me.

Well, the whole accusation doesn't click for me because it sounds absurd, but the thought process behind it is actually the head scratcher here.

yeah exactly
that's why it's hard for me to believe she honestly/truly believes it

[Menalque]

yeah not in this game

you used in as a spectator in 1976

I don't really get what your point is

I should be townreading you here because of post count?

[Datisi]

i still don't see thefuck you mean by change in tone

I mean you shifted from interacting with me in a positive if slightly frustrated way to being hyper aggressive and frustrated with me supposedly reading you incorrectly

and okay, that may be your honest emotional reaction in which case I feel really sorry but it could also be you seeing that getting TR via pocketing isn't working and being emotionally manipulative instead

it's annoying
it's so fucking annoying when someone claims they can read you and then they fucking don't and you know you can't say shit because you feel yourself playing like scum because this game truly didn't fucking click for me and i feel like trq's push is like kicking me when i'm down and i don't even know if it comes from scum bc my money is still on both of you being town and itsS????? annoying?????

[skitter30]

datisi how do u read mena rn ?