Newbie 1988 | Octopus | Over

[ceejayvinoya]

Hey CJV. Does it make more sense for you to locktown read Titus, or for Titus to locktown read you?

I don't get this. Both are possible and both could make equal sense.

[Titus]

Wooper is at L minus 1

[Titus]

Homura, you're the tiebreaker.

[Wooper]

........ lol
i'm starting to doubt my townreads
it's mena + one of {cjv, homura}.
i don't individually scumread either of them but the way they've handled this 1v1 has been hilariously wolfy

lowkey waiting for homura to pop in and lolhammer me

[Wooper]

originally crush's vote struck me as ez distancing but the more he's doubled down the less i think he's aligned with menalque.
ll's entire approach to this argument has been obvtown.
titus should probably still be town here but her reads are like blatantly unabashedly incorrect and if ~evidence~ comes to light that she might be scum, pls reintroduce her to the poe.
cjv i don't want to say too much on. you should be able to clear him d3. if not, mena/cjv is the scumteam
homura has been avoiding making a decision on me vs. menalque and instead is just quizzing other slots on other unrelated stuff

[Wooper]

i kinda hate holding back but i can't really give my full solve

menalque is scum. he's handled our exchange in insanely bad faith and he's appealing to people's like ?? ability as mafia players ?? to "sEeEe the LiGhT" and vote me rather than actually trying to read me through my gameplay. his scumread on me comes from absolutely nowhere and his entire argument is baseless flailing. this isn't hard, and i don't see how the town in {titus,cjv} isn't seeing this.

this makes me think the partner has either tactically found a way to slide onto the wagon or they're waiting in the wings to drive the final nail into my coffin

[LuckyLuciano]

Don't you think if CJV is red it's more likely they are scum with Titus than Mena?

[LuckyLuciano]

Wooper, what did you mean when you said you weren't getting lynched this DP?

[Wooper]

i don't really think a world where menalque is town makes sense here tbh
if mena/wooper is t/t then a cjv/titus team probably wins the game unless y'all are comfortable with me risking throwing the last TPR under the bus

[Wooper]

Wooper, what did you mean when you said you weren't getting lynched this DP?

exactly what i've been saying the whole time tbh.
i am very obvtown.
my predecessor was obvtown.
i am only being pushed by scum.
if this dp comes down to a 1v1 between me/mena, i refuse to lose it.

[LuckyLuciano]

Let's just mass claim. I don't see a world where mafia doesn't already know the TPR hint. As unlikely as it may be, I do see a world where you get lynched, I get night killed, and a CJV + Titus scumteam mislynches Tracker Crush next DP, because everyone who is in-on-it, so to say would be dead or mafia.

[LuckyLuciano]

I'll start, I'm VT.

[LuckyLuciano]

UNVOTE: Unvote.I want to temporarily take players out of hammer range while we mass claim. There's no real reason to not do this before ending the day.

[LuckyLuciano]

UNVOTE: Mena

[Titus]

Let's just mass claim. I don't see a world where mafia doesn't already know the TPR hint. As unlikely as it may be, I do see a world where you get lynched, I get night killed, and a CJV + Titus scumteam mislynches Tracker Crush next DP, because everyone who is in-on-it, so to say would be dead or mafia.

We aren't massclaiming. Stop fishing.

[Wooper]

yeah we're not massclaiming

[Titus]

Wooper, what did you mean when you said you weren't getting lynched this DP?

exactly what i've been saying the whole time tbh.
i am very obvtown.
my predecessor was obvtown.
i am only being pushed by scum.
if this dp comes down to a 1v1 between me/mena, i refuse to lose it.

You just said you don't think I'm scum. My two biggest townreads are on you. So just who is scum?

[Wooper]

i actually changed my mind
if cjv can prove to LL that he's town this game is veeery easy

pedit: i was talking about when i made that comment titus

[Wooper]

sadly i think there's 1-2 town on me in you/cjv now

[LuckyLuciano]

Let's just mass claim. I don't see a world where mafia doesn't already know the TPR hint. As unlikely as it may be, I do see a world where you get lynched, I get night killed, and a CJV + Titus scumteam mislynches Tracker Crush next DP, because everyone who is in-on-it, so to say would be dead or mafia.

We aren't massclaiming. Stop fishing.

I'm not fishing. If you truly think Wooper is mafia, then you would know that Wooper knows the TPR situation. That would mean mafia as a whole knows. Therefore, you are only denying the town information. Either you think Wooper is mafia and we may as well mass claim, or you don't, and you're pushing his lynch in bad faith.

Wooper, what did you mean when you said you weren't getting lynched this DP?

exactly what i've been saying the whole time tbh.
i am very obvtown.
my predecessor was obvtown.
i am only being pushed by scum.
if this dp comes down to a 1v1 between me/mena, i refuse to lose it.

You just said you don't think I'm scum. My two biggest townreads are on you. So just who is scum?

This is a false dichotomy. He can think you are town without thinking your reads are correct. In fact, he's specifically stated your reads are incorrect.

[Wooper]

[Wooper]

sigh
i have one really valuable info bomb to drop but it makes my tpr read really obvious

[LuckyLuciano]

CJV is the friendly neighbor and Titus is his NP1 visit target.

[Wooper]

sigh
yeah

[LuckyLuciano]

We have plenty of time in the DP. If Homura is acting in good faith, then even if he thinks Wooper is scum he will wait for everyone to post in case there is a counterclaim.