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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:02 pm

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In post 598, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 597, popsofctown wrote:
In post 596, Luca Blight wrote: I thought dog was pretty obviously Town, even if I am slightly biased.
Perceiving his iso as better than leantown is definitely implausible to me. I agree with Ame's read here
His anger about the lying and subsequent replace-out was obviously Town imo.
I don't view it that way, but eh I can see you seeing it that way after getting biased by a green PM if you really have one

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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:05 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 589, Ame wrote:Thank you for being honest n_n!!

I'll look over you again with a fair eye.

@eyes yes that's exactly right! One of the biggest driving forces for me as a person is the desire to understand other people. Like
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understand them and the way they experience. I feel like we are all kind of trapped? Each only capable of experiencing an infinitesimal sliver of existence. Not only are we perceptually limited by our species umwelt, but even just from being born one person and not another: the variation in perception and cognition from person to person is seriously astounding. We go about day-to-day under the illusion that what we personally perceive is all there is and that other people more or less perceive and think in the same way, but it's just not true! Our minuscule fields of existence are nothing but shadows on a cave wall. It may be impossible to truly understand another person, but the closer you get it's like getting a glimpse of their unique configuration of shadows and finding out they are made of entirely different stuff from your shadows and it's like the best experience in the world to me.

I'm still town reading / leaning all the Warriors or Light and those with angelic aethers that I mentioned before.

Damn you’re seriously interesting to talk to! I really would love to chat to you about this more in depth!
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:10 pm

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In post 599, Taly wrote:pops, you're going to have to really sell me on who you want to lynch
You agree with me that FuzzyLogic is scummy. I put a good amount of stock in lynching someone who has done very little, with all of what they've done being scummy. Stark contrast to a slot who has done one special thing everyone seems to think is scummy, but is not corroborated by other reasons to believe I'm scum despite pretty voluminous posting. When I've been lynched as scum early like in Team Mafia and Masons and Mafia people have found detail after detail of many different things I was doing scum indicative.

It's very disturbing that FuzzyLogic projected having much more effort and acumen during RVS/low information then caught up with a totally nothingburger post.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:11 pm

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In post 600, popsofctown wrote:
In post 598, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 597, popsofctown wrote:
In post 596, Luca Blight wrote: I thought dog was pretty obviously Town, even if I am slightly biased.
Perceiving his iso as better than leantown is definitely implausible to me. I agree with Ame's read here
His anger about the lying and subsequent replace-out was obviously Town imo.
I don't view it that way, but eh I can see you seeing it that way after getting biased by a green PM if you really have one

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Why would scum replace out over a player deliberately lying and drawing attention to himself? That would be a perfect opportunity to dig into a tunnel. The fact he replaced out over it proves his anger was genuine, which only makes sense from town there.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:13 pm

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What’s with the coloured text, Pops? It’s making it hard to read your posts, especially when it’s a wall of text.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:14 pm

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In post 603, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 600, popsofctown wrote:
In post 598, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 597, popsofctown wrote:
In post 596, Luca Blight wrote: I thought dog was pretty obviously Town, even if I am slightly biased.
Perceiving his iso as better than leantown is definitely implausible to me. I agree with Ame's read here
His anger about the lying and subsequent replace-out was obviously Town imo.
I don't view it that way, but eh I can see you seeing it that way after getting biased by a green PM if you really have one

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Why would scum replace out over a player deliberately lying and drawing attention to himself? That would be a perfect opportunity to dig into a tunnel. The fact he replaced out over it proves his anger was genuine, which only makes sense from town there.

This. This is what I’ve been trying to say.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:14 pm

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Frustration that town not punishing "objectively bad play" of town was making the game difficult to win as scum in a way that was rewarding town for playing badly.
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:17 pm

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On a scale of 0-10 how clearly can you visualize images in your mind's eye? 0 being not at all (aphantasia). 10 being as clearly as you see with your actual eyes.


Ehhh.... I can visualize vivid pictures in my head but they don't last too long. I can follow a vague, audio-less story in my head.

I guess 6. I can lucid dream though, hehe. If that means anything.

On a scale of 0-10 how clearly can you hear sounds in your mind's ear?


easily and 8. I can repeat sounds I focus on in my head, and hear them clearly. I read often, and the voices I read through change depending on the person or scene of the story.

I can even play out conversations in my head with different voices and distinguish them. They're not actual voices, but I can imagine.

What are your top 3 favorite Pokemon?


Really hard for me to say... I love Fairy type pokemon, very pure and uplifting feel.

I also like Ghost and Dark type... something is pretty attractive but darkness when you know you're safe.

What's your current favorite song?


Fuck, it's hard to list one.

Castles in the Air - Don McLean

Both Sides Now - Judy Collins
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Fast Talk - Houses
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A World Alone - Lorde
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Goodbye Stranger - Supertramp
make top 5.

I gravitate to 70s Rock and 2010's Alternative... 80s rock and 90s pop are great too. 2000s is nostalgic as I grew up then of course.

If you had the option to be immortal without the ability to turn it off would you choose to be?


Depends, if I were immortal as an adult without the negative effects of aging? Possibly.
If I were immortal and couldn't die ever? Definitely not.

I want to live longer, but I don't know if I have the sanity to experience humanity longer than the frame of time I know it to be.

What is the meaning of life?


Such a nuanced question, it'd take me until midnight to write it all up and it's 10:16 PM
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:18 pm

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wtf is that text
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:24 pm

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In post 606, popsofctown wrote:
Frustration that town not punishing "objectively bad play" of town was making the game difficult to win as scum in a way that was rewarding town for playing badly.
pedit: I have a post restriction
The only way that could be the case is if Rabid was being suspected over the other lying players, which never happened. As scum he would be in an ideal situation where he could death tunnel those players for lying, there would be no cause for such anger, especially when the players in question were coming under pressure.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:26 pm

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Basically only Town get genuinely angry about bad town play - and the swift replace out proves the anger was genuine.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:27 pm

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I've gotten angry about bad town play as scum before.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:33 pm

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Do you townread NDmath by extension?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:33 pm

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In post 611, popsofctown wrote:I've gotten angry about bad town play as scum before.
Angry to the point of replacing out without being under any pressure?
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:34 pm

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In post 610, Luca Blight wrote:Basically only Town get genuinely angry about bad town play - and the swift replace out proves the anger was genuine.
that's not true
weird flex, ok
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:35 pm

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In post 613, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 611, popsofctown wrote:I've gotten angry about bad town play as scum before.
Angry to the point of replacing out without being under any pressure?
I never replace out except if I have a major real life issue or a moderator won't deal with a site rules infraction
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:36 pm

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In post 612, popsofctown wrote:Do you townread NDmath by extension?
That’s not as clear cut, as there’s no reference to why he actually replaced out, but I do have a TL on the slot generally.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:37 pm

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In post 616, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 612, popsofctown wrote:Do you townread NDmath by extension?
That’s not as clear cut, as there’s no reference to why he actually replaced out, but I do have a TL on the slot generally.
oh hey wow it's almost like he was following site rules
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:37 pm

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sry couldn't not
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:39 pm

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I'm hard townreading eyestott so I value his take on this and am giving it a little credence

eyestott has superseded wisp as ulty townread

sorry wiispadisp
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:46 pm

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It reminds me of this game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=73448

Blackvoid ragequit due to a lack of activity, and his successor Toto was considered conftown, because scum never ragequit over such a thing. I think the same applies here and I couldn’t see how Rabid’s ragequit comes from scum, but as I said I’m biased.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm

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In post 615, popsofctown wrote:
In post 613, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 611, popsofctown wrote:I've gotten angry about bad town play as scum before.
Angry to the point of replacing out without being under any pressure?
I never replace out except if I have a major real life issue or a moderator won't deal with a site rules infraction
Why were you angry in the games you mentioned?
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:50 pm

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I was mad in Starry Night when Firebringer and Shiro made a pact never to lynch eachother even though they weren't townreading eachother.

I got mad in Magia Record when everyone in a T-T-T neighborhood fullclaimed as a matter of course even though they had no reason to believe the neighborhood was T-T-T
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:52 pm

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Anger in those situations is a lot more understandable from scum, can you not see that?
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:53 pm

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stop towntoning I want to agree with ame about something
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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