Newbie 1992 | Game Over

[skitter30]

why do you think so
you haven't even given your reasons for voting marashu.

because you're getting out of your way to defend him but don't townread him
but feel like you're actively trying to prevent people from voting him

i'm voting marashu because:
1. inactivity
2. iioa (information instead of analysis)
3. very little follow-through in their posts. like they ask a lot of questions but they dont' seem to go anywhere. one thought doesn't track from one post to the next. there doesn't seem to be any consistent pov that's directing their posts or questions
4. their opening was bad

[skitter30]

I'll post my reasoning this afternoon, but for now VOTE: skitter30. The short of it is, I noticed a trend in some of her posts but I don't have time right now to break it down.

yeah you're going to need to elaborate on that

[skitter30]

mental health vla for a couple of days

[Karnage]

Vote Count 1.15

Marashu (3) ~

skitter30, Menalque, Datisi,

Datisi (1) ~

team rocket queen,

clidd (1) ~

word321,

GeneralWu (1) ~

Maduisha,

skitter30 (1) ~

Marashu,

Not voting (2) ~

GeneralWu, clidd,

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2020-03-27 19:08:54)

V/LA:

• skitter30 - Fridays and Saturdays & mental health vla for a couple of days (beginning 3/23)

[Datisi]

hmm i am also feeling a mindmeld w skitter

[Maduisha]

3. very little follow-through in their posts. like they ask a lot of questions but they dont' seem to go anywhere. one thought doesn't track from one post to the next. there doesn't seem to be any consistent pov that's directing their posts or questions

This one is the most worrying, in my opinion. I know a lot of people disliked his opening, but this is the thing that I dislike the most about Marashu's posts.

[Maduisha]

I'm wondering now about my scum read of GWu... he did jump to protect Marashu, but now I don't know if that's town indicative or scum indicative, since it was so direct. I didn't scum read him for that in particular, but still.

[Menalque]

is word too weird to be scum or just weird enough to be scum

[Menalque]

not as a person, in terms of how they're approaching the game

[Menalque]

maduisha please vote for marashu

[Datisi]

whatcha think of gw?

[Menalque]

we're gonna flip this and see where we go from there I think

[Menalque]

whatcha think of gw?

I think that depends a lot on whether we're right on mara

[Menalque]

@skitt and @dats

if mara!town where are your heads at?

[Menalque]

@skitt take as much time as you need

[Datisi]

is it beneficial to discuss that right now?

[Menalque]

yeah, I think so

[Datisi]

i don't know. i could theoretically see word/wu, but then the chances are i'm going wrong somewhere and there's potential deepwolf in madu/clidd. i'm still reading you as town, so. not sure how much i wanna think about it.

you're still TRing skitt, right?

[Maduisha]

is word too weird to be scum or just weird enough to be scum

I think his posts are pretty towny, except because of his weird obsession with Clidd being an emotional manipulator or something.

maduisha please vote for marashu

Alright.

VOTE: Marashu

I can't believe you're stealing the hammer from me, though. I enjoyed doing D1 hammer on my last game.

[Maduisha]

Clidd said he'd come back with a Marashu analysis, and Marashu said he'd come back with a Skitt analysis, rip those I guess.

[skitter30]

UNVOTE: i don't want hammer yet

[Datisi]

whatcha think of gw?

I think that depends a lot on whether we're right on mara

will you talk about this or no?

[team rocket queen]

the hypothetical situation it would be useful to datisi in would be if he thought i was a mason and thus killed me in the night and then i flipped mason and then he wanted to counterclaim the remaining mason. it's a pretty narrow situation so i doubt he'd have felt the need to make a super strong breadcrumb but him wanting to have something seems pretty likely.

of course, my doubting he'd feel the need to make a super strong breadcrumb came after hours of trying to use fridge magnets and other methods to solve potential 104 character anagrams, so.

idk if you have any completed games but can you point to a time you've ever proposed a theory like this one?

ok apparently not, ignore this question

i have a completed game now, if you're still interested: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=82380

no theories quite like the one this game, but it might serve some purpose nonetheless.

[GeneralWu]

and for the second part, you basically changed your mind within the span of a single post
Earlier in that post I quoted you said "I think he's null" but then before you even finished writing the post, you changed your mind and thought I was scummy?
Or maybe now you're attempting to go like "nope I actually meant something else"?

I explained my thought process already, but I'll do it again.

- I thought you had a towny vibe, TL.
- You had activity issues, but still a TL.
- The activity issues continue, and you make some posts I deem scummy. I decide to take a step back and consider your slot null. I don't call you scummy in that post, but leave FoS on you because I don't like what I've seen, and vote you to pressure you to catch up.
- In light of even more posts I consider scummy, and continued activity issues, I consider the slot to lean scummier than town.

Here you have my thought process laid out for you once again. Feel free to pick it apart and ask me anything you like, but I believe I explained why I found you scummy already. I feel like you're making me repeat myself a lot.

so is it mainly those posts you think are scummy or mainly bc of activity
tbh I have a sl on you because you seem to be using these little reasons to sr me even though activity shouldn't really be used as a basis for scumreading someone.

she throws these votes out of the blue with no explanations given. I checked her ISO and she didn't provide reasons before casting those votes. Also, in some cases she only explains after being told to do so by someone else.
And I still haven't found her reasons for voting marashu.

ok and?
is this scummy of me?
if it is ... because?
if it isn't .. why bring it up?

what do you think
ofc it's scummy to just vote people and not provide reasons

[team rocket queen]

activity shouldn't really be used as a basis for scumreading someone.

why shouldn't it? the only benefit to inactivity as town is it allows you to be inactive as scum in other games and not have it be scumread. thus it's scummy.