Micro 930: Neon Mafia (Game over!)

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 1.06

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

nomnomnom

(3): Heaven, Luca Blight, Looker

Luca Blight

(2): nomnomnom, Menalque

Quagsire

(1): skitter30

Heaven

(1): Alduskkel

Not Voting

(2): Quagsire, Captain the Furret

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-31 12:15:00).

Mod notes:

• skitter30 standing V/LA Fridays and Saturdays & mental health V/LA.

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[Menalque]

Like aside from paranoia about “skitt is rly good as scum so this is within her scumrange” I don’t think there’s anything skitt has done yet that seems like it comes from a scum mindset (*prepsring for horrendous egg on face postgame)

Whereas I just want like, a lot more from furret and don’t see anything e’s done as town yet

[Menalque]

Whats your read on me now furret?

[nomnomnom]

In this kind of gamestate it's easy to justify a vote/lynch on me yet furret is trying to analyze the situation and come to his own conclusion
I think that's pro-town

[nomnomnom]

unless there's massive pocketing games going on
but eh

[Menalque]

Ugh we gave datisi a pagetop, we’ve all lost really, regardless of who wins

[Captain the Furret]

Whats your read on me now furret?

normal

[Menalque]

Furret what pronouns should I be using for you in this game?

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

These are the posts I have the most problems with. I’ll see if I can put it into words:

That whole thing seems really out of character tbh

I think that's a nice way to put things I've been feeling
that opening is also really out of character imo, just feels awkward

Something about the wording of the first line feels a bit off to me. The entire post doesn’t really add anything except fuel to the fire.

let's all VOTE: iconeum for an

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D1 lynch!

this is just a personal note but this kind of rvs post/vote is scummy as fuck

I agree with Skitter that Menalque’s opening is NAI, especially taking into account his meta where it kind of makes sense. It’s possible that Nom felt the need to add something or her own to the table rather than purely sheeping, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

idk man people seem to think I'm stupid as fuck when it comes to scumhunting but what I say makes sense for me god damn it :/
hard to make people follow wagons with me when they hardly understand my reasonings and it's irritating

This seems a bit of an overreaction to Skitter’s comment. I’m not sure as Town if you’d take it to heart so much? It didn’t seem like a massive deal.

@skitt @furret what are your opinions on nomx3's scumgame?

do you scumread her

maybe

lmao
this level of non commitment

Why should he be committed on page 7/8 or whatever it is? I think ‘maybe’ is understandable in this context.

my seer senses are tingling
they're telling me that if furret was voting me, menalque would have sheeped
hmhnmhnnnn

Again her tone is preemptively defensive. This could be a move that’s designed to set Menalque up - either he doesn’t vote her because of the trap she’s set, or he does and she can be like ‘hah! I told you!’.

this feels like you're going down a list of things to attack over an actual read tbh

What gives you that impression?

[skitter30]

i'm sorry i'll try really hard to catch up before i go to sleep but i'm not sure i'll be able to

[Captain the Furret]

tbh im not rly reading ur post that much
at a glance u seem normal tho

pedit: Mena I never gave a fuck and I never will

[Menalque]

In this kind of gamestate it's easy to justify a vote/lynch on me yet furret is trying to analyze the situation and come to his own conclusion
I think that's pro-town

Okay, I’ll think about it

I kind of don’t think scum would want to jump on your wagon too much tho as if you got flipped it would look bad so that gives me somewhat lower faith there

Can shelve it for now

[Captain the Furret]

Spoiler:

These are the posts I have the most problems with. I’ll see if I can put it into words:

That whole thing seems really out of character tbh

I think that's a nice way to put things I've been feeling
that opening is also really out of character imo, just feels awkward

Something about the wording of the first line feels a bit off to me. The entire post doesn’t really add anything except fuel to the fire.

let's all VOTE: iconeum for an

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D1 lynch!

this is just a personal note but this kind of rvs post/vote is scummy as fuck

I agree with Skitter that Menalque’s opening is NAI, especially taking into account his meta where it kind of makes sense. It’s possible that Nom felt the need to add something or her own to the table rather than purely sheeping, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

idk man people seem to think I'm stupid as fuck when it comes to scumhunting but what I say makes sense for me god damn it :/
hard to make people follow wagons with me when they hardly understand my reasonings and it's irritating

This seems a bit of an overreaction to Skitter’s comment. I’m not sure as Town if you’d take it to heart so much? It didn’t seem like a massive deal.

@skitt @furret what are your opinions on nomx3's scumgame?

do you scumread her

maybe

lmao
this level of non commitment

Why should he be committed on page 7/8 or whatever it is? I think ‘maybe’ is understandable in this context.

my seer senses are tingling
they're telling me that if furret was voting me, menalque would have sheeped
hmhnmhnnnn

Again her tone is preemptively defensive. This could be a move that’s designed to set Menalque up - either he doesn’t vote her because of the trap she’s set, or he does and she can be like ‘hah! I told you!’.

this feels like you're going down a list of things to attack over an actual read tbh

What gives you that impression?

It feels like
ok
so I can attack this post
and this post
and this post
but not this post
but also this post

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

You’re trying to shoehorn my play into being scummy rather than fairly evaluating it imo. You’re under pressure and are scrambling for something to cling onto.

I agree that townreading people left and right can be a scumtell, but it doesn’t pertain to what I’ve done in this game.

Not voting a scumread I guess could be a thing, but you’re assuming a scummy motive when a townie one exists. You asked why I wasn’t voting you but ignored my answer and assumed a scummy motive - that makes it seem as though the only reason you asked that question was to set-up your hop onto my wagon.

Your recent opportunism also seems at odds with your AtE from the other page. One minute you’re feeling sad because you’re being scumread, the next you’re jumping on me for not automatically voting you after raising my suspicions. It feel off to me.

VOTE: Nom

you feel a bit more unnatural then the normal I played with you.
Later into the game at least you started to obvtown yourself, but atm you just feel very unnatural

You mean the game you death-tunneled me in?

[Menalque]

i'm sorry i'll try really hard to catch up before i go to sleep but i'm not sure i'll be able to

Chill skitt, you have time, no pressure look after yourself first

[Captain the Furret]

Spoiler:

You’re trying to shoehorn my play into being scummy rather than fairly evaluating it imo. You’re under pressure and are scrambling for something to cling onto.

I agree that townreading people left and right can be a scumtell, but it doesn’t pertain to what I’ve done in this game.

Not voting a scumread I guess could be a thing, but you’re assuming a scummy motive when a townie one exists. You asked why I wasn’t voting you but ignored my answer and assumed a scummy motive - that makes it seem as though the only reason you asked that question was to set-up your hop onto my wagon.

Your recent opportunism also seems at odds with your AtE from the other page. One minute you’re feeling sad because you’re being scumread, the next you’re jumping on me for not automatically voting you after raising my suspicions. It feel off to me.

VOTE: Nom

you feel a bit more unnatural then the normal I played with you.
Later into the game at least you started to obvtown yourself, but atm you just feel very unnatural

You mean the game you death-tunneled me in?

uh huh.

[Captain the Furret]

VOTE: luca

[Menalque]

Luca why no speaky conmigo when you’re replying to posts after my calling you scum?

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

These are the posts I have the most problems with. I’ll see if I can put it into words:

That whole thing seems really out of character tbh

I think that's a nice way to put things I've been feeling
that opening is also really out of character imo, just feels awkward

Something about the wording of the first line feels a bit off to me. The entire post doesn’t really add anything except fuel to the fire.

let's all VOTE: iconeum for an

iconic

D1 lynch!

this is just a personal note but this kind of rvs post/vote is scummy as fuck

I agree with Skitter that Menalque’s opening is NAI, especially taking into account his meta where it kind of makes sense. It’s possible that Nom felt the need to add something or her own to the table rather than purely sheeping, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

idk man people seem to think I'm stupid as fuck when it comes to scumhunting but what I say makes sense for me god damn it :/
hard to make people follow wagons with me when they hardly understand my reasonings and it's irritating

This seems a bit of an overreaction to Skitter’s comment. I’m not sure as Town if you’d take it to heart so much? It didn’t seem like a massive deal.

@skitt @furret what are your opinions on nomx3's scumgame?

do you scumread her

maybe

lmao
this level of non commitment

Why should he be committed on page 7/8 or whatever it is? I think ‘maybe’ is understandable in this context.

my seer senses are tingling
they're telling me that if furret was voting me, menalque would have sheeped
hmhnmhnnnn

Again her tone is preemptively defensive. This could be a move that’s designed to set Menalque up - either he doesn’t vote her because of the trap she’s set, or he does and she can be like ‘hah! I told you!’.

this feels like you're going down a list of things to attack over an actual read tbh

What gives you that impression?

It feels like
ok
so I can attack this post
and this post
and this post
but not this post
but also this post

I attacked the posts that I didn’t like, correct.

[Luca Blight]

Luca why no speaky conmigo when you’re replying to posts after my calling you scum?

Just skimming through.

I’m puzzled as to how you read Nom as more Town from that interaction tbh.

[Menalque]

Luca why no speaky conmigo when you’re replying to posts after my calling you scum?

Just skimming through.

I’m puzzled as to how you read Nom as more Town from that interaction tbh.

Nom felt more like ~*wrong*~ about me and she feels solvey now

Whereas I do think you felt very opportunistic in hopping on her there.

I mean a lot of people were calling her scum or scummy so it could be that you just saw the same but it felt weird man

[Menalque]

Also I think you’re very capable of obvtowning when town and you haven’t yet

[Menalque]

You’re openwolfing. Town!Nom would not want to 1v1 someone over this lol

When I say Town!Nom in that sense I kind of mean any reasonable player (which I believe you are).

No reasonable town player would want to 1v1 me based on your reasoning.

Didn’t like these either really

[Menalque]

Like I don’t think anyone is liable to be open wolfing there so it’s like more confidence than I think you have the right to express in nom!scum

The second one is like idk, just seems weird. Like putting the focus on bad reasoning as the thing that makes nomx3 scummy when I think bad reasoning is just as likely to come from town as scum (or almost)

[Luca Blight]

I actually didn’t hop on her though? Which is ironically a stick she’s using to attack me. I pointed out things I didn’t like and was waiting to get a read on everyone before committing to a vote.

Why is it hard to believe that I could genuinely see her as scummy, as opposed to being opportunistic scum?