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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:17 am

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In post 491, Quagsire wrote:if true that claim probably does fit from a game design perspective. however i think it does ~slightly~ increase the chance that someone in the hood is scum.
we can't know that until we know more about claims and all
key also implies a protective
my personal belief is that it could go either way so it's not really helpful but I trust furret's view on this considering his modding experience so I'll be waiting for that mechtalk

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you were my top scumread
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:19 am

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So frustrating when you’re phone posting on really slow WiFi and get ninja’d like four times
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:20 am

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furret is alisae right?
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:20 am

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I kinda assumed that yeah
he talked a lot about modding experience in our hood too
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:22 am

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ok i'll see what e has to say regarding that then. i'm not great at setup spec. i'm not really sure i townread furret though tbh.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:23 am

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Nom, do you have any Town meta of yourself scumreading players for those reasons? It’d help me out a bit.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:24 am

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I think I just realised who Quags’ main is.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:25 am

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the discussion in our hood felt townie anyway
pedit: I'm not sure what you're asking
I've definitely been aggro like this as town and I have a few games that shows this
I don't remember reasons for scumreading people in past games in a vacuum though so that'll be hard
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:27 am

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You seem to think not automatically voting a scumread and townreading people easily are massive scumtells, so I thought you might have some memory of scumreading people for those reasons in past games?
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:29 am

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Any similar meta would be useful tho I guess
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:31 am

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it's hard remembering specific reasons for townreading people or scumreading them
a lot of this stuff is situational, a big reason why I felt those were scumtells for you is because of how you are as town
in my head you are like a train that does not stop and will vote people with conviction and what you did weirded me out
I couldn't recall reasons for reading people a certain way unless I reminded myself of the context of the games in question and who the players were
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:31 am

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If you want meta of me being this aggro as town I have clear examples of that, if that's what you want
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:32 am

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Ok let’s see it
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:33 am

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The only times I’m like a train is when I’m convinced someone is scum. Usually I’m pretty laid-back I’d say.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:36 am

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here's an example: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79696
chose this one because it's a short one and you can see how I acted on d1 regarding chennis and Pikachu
I was nightkilled n1 as well
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:40 am

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In post 488, Quagsire wrote:okay but you're not even trying to push me or question my stances. like it's not really a vanity when we still have time for other wagons to form. so if you think i'm scum, then you should be pushing me or trying to start a wagon on me, especially when others have expressed concerns about me.

i wasn't insulting you but okay. my point on your noms vote still stands.
Your suggestions are suggestions. I'm not going to fake some fabricated conviction to get others to vote you. This is a gambling game and I'm gambling.

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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:42 am

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bruh
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:55 am

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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:57 am

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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:17 am

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I’ll start reading soon
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:43 am

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In post 376, Looker wrote:
In post 339, Quagsire wrote:
In post 252, Looker wrote:Payback's a VOTE: nomnomnom

S {Quag | Heaven/Nom | Aldus/Skitter/Menal | Captain/Luca}T
you have me as your strongest scum read yet you vote for noms? explain that for me
No one is scum alone. Besides, with D1's track record, it'd probably stay a vanity wagon.
Multiple other people have expressed some level of suspicion of Quagsire. Why do you think that the wagon wouldn't gain traction? Also, where's your captain townread coming from?

Post 417 raises some good points
In post 449, Luca Blight wrote:Oh, I thought you called me opportunistic. My bad.

I’m not convincing you about anyone rn. Still trying to work you out atm.
What do you mean by "work [nom] out"? I thought you were already sure she was scum.
In post 410, Luca Blight wrote:Haven’t read too much into Ald but he seems fine atm. His approach to my wagon was ok. Town lean.
In post 464, Luca Blight wrote:The more I look at Aldu’s Iso the worse I feel about it.
Explain your progression here
In post 470, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 469, Looker wrote:I find it virtually impossible to believe anything. With the end result, scum could just as easily be Luca and nom.
now THAT is a wild take lol
yeah what the hell is this looker, in what universe does a scumteam 1v1 each other and then one of them claims macho neapolitan?
In post 515, Looker wrote:
In post 488, Quagsire wrote:okay but you're not even trying to push me or question my stances. like it's not really a vanity when we still have time for other wagons to form. so if you think i'm scum, then you should be pushing me or trying to start a wagon on me, especially when others have expressed concerns about me.

i wasn't insulting you but okay. my point on your noms vote still stands.
Your suggestions are suggestions. I'm not going to fake some fabricated conviction to get others to vote you. This is a gambling game and I'm gambling.

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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:59 am

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ok i have like an hour, we'll see how far i get

- @ mena i don't think that scum!heaven would necessarily be able to change his tone just cuz he knows i caught him that way last time; just because you know your scumgame is lacking doesn't mean that you have the capability of changing it just then ()

- @ mena nom i think has a fairly wide scumread; i don't think she's out of it yet ()

- i'm a little surprised at how fast the heaven wagon deflated just basically for me saying that i thought he was townie. quagsire's unvote in particular is pinging me but i don't know why rn ()

- @quagsire () bravado wasn't quite the right word exactly. it was more like he was being cavalier? like he didn't care about a lolhammer, and was even like actively promoting it. i think it's in his scumrange to fake that

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In post 212, nomnomnom wrote:it especially hurts from skit considering I like playing with her and I hate to think that she maybe thinks I'm bad as town
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this feels like ate and like you were trying to get me to back off

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ok i'm giving up on the trying to minimize the size of the wallposts
In post 230, nomnomnom wrote:it's not weak
you just seem to give townreads left and right without any explanation, spend your time specifically make a case on me and you don't even vote me
that gives me a lot of pings
he wasn't giving townreads left and right, he gave like 2.5
why is important that he didn't explain them
and ok i can kinda understand the lack of vote one but the rest of this seems like a cross between a misrep and overreaction
In post 233, nomnomnom wrote:I'm suspicious of people who give townreads left and right because that's generally ultra scummy especially without much rationale behind it, especially in the context of micros where there is a lot more emphasis of finding other townies rather than minis and larges
ok but this didn't like happen; he gave like 2.5 townreads
also i kinda disgree with the premise of your argument here

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In post 238, Luca Blight wrote:You’re openwolfing. Town!Nom would not want to 1v1 someone over this lol
although i'm not actually sure town!nom wouldn't
her rvs mena push was bad
and i dislike her scumread of you here
but i'm not sure forcing a 1v1 is scummy for her

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In post 248, nomnomnom wrote:I don't care if they're light townreads I refuse to believe anyone from this table has a 100% good way to discern skitter's alignment early on d1 and I say this as someone who's been studying how she plays for a while
what kind of read is "she makes sense" anyway, that's not even a read
he didn't espouse a townread on me, he said he thinks my posts make sense, which is not at all the same thing.
you're again doing this weird strawman thing

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i think luka comes off much better than nom here

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In post 252, Looker wrote:S{Quag | Heaven/Nom | Aldus/Skitter/Menal | Captain/Luca}T
wait where did the quag scumread come from?
why are you scumreading heaven, i think the slot is townie for him

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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 274, Menalque wrote:Tentatively:

Quagsire
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why are you townreading quagsire?

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In post 276, Menalque wrote:VOTE: luca
i dont' understand this vote, i thought luca came off signifccantly better than nom there

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In post 282, Menalque wrote:I agree Luca comes across opportunistic this game but also like, not obviously town? Whereas I think Luca as town normally reads very obviously town
i don't really read him as oppurtunistic at all and i also am not sure i agree that he always comes across as obviously town when town

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i literally don't have a read on furret

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and ahhh reading about you guys talking about me :)

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uh i'm actually kinda baffled by mena/furret's luca votes here

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In post 334, Alduskkel wrote:also it doesn't even take that much bravado to put someone at L-1 at this stage so there's that too
well it wasn't the fact that he wanted l-1's it's more the fact that he was provoking a lolhammer/indicated he was fine with that happening

hey how much (recent) mafia experience do you have?

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In post 334, Alduskkel wrote:I'm on page 11 and nomnomnom looks like lynchbait
why are you townreading her?

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