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[mavsfan41]

So I just realized the iDannyboy is actually iDanyboy with one “N”. My bad, sorry iDanyboy.

@Morning Tweet: in response to your 259 about this be typical of Dany’s play, I was thinking how that may be the case but still, on the one hand, I want more content of our him and just generally more posting. On the other hand, I just got out of a game with Espressojet who also is an infrequent poster and I don’t have the same thoughts of voting him to push content. So sure, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. (Call it more familiar with Espressojet vs iDanyboy). I don’t particularly think he is scum, but several posts stuck me as weird and I just wish bob3141 had gone after him. I will leave my vote on him till I get better content in lack of a more solid read so far. Till then it stays on him. After that, I’m looking at you Espressojet and more likely BBmola due to his lack of posting content and his sheepish voting tendencies so far. The more content and posting, the better!

[SirCakez]

Prodding BBmolla

[BBmolla]

I’m alive

[Allomancer]

BB, do you still scumread Skellen?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Post 53 is Morning Tweet’s reply to iDannyboy’s post. And I suppose it’s more of a response to the actual vote than the actual post. She brings up a good point in this post about throwing shade but not actually voting in half in/half out. Then comes post 59.

This post is the one that caught me originally. IDannyboy (at least in my view) does get very defensive when Morning Tweet brings up her scum rankings and iDannyboy is listed as scum.

Yeah this is the part that I don't understand, but I also think that we should move on. we're just going in circles at this point

I was wishing bob3141 had looked into iDannyboy more

then thought, aah screw it, I’ll do it rather than being like “crap, missed the opportunity.”

This is kind of weird phrasing. Why do you wish bob had pushed Dany instead, as opposed to thinking bob was scum and was making a scummy push?

[Bambi Jay]

I’m alive

I am also alive. Just taking a backseat at this point.

How's everyone doing by the way?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Just finished my 4th week of working from home and leaving the apartment only ~2-3 times a week so tempers are short atm

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Skellen

, I love the shades! Do you have any scumreads now?

Shall I throw them? Nah, tbh I don't think I have any solid scumreads I am convinced of. I mean gun to my head I would say bbmolla, but that is mostly based on a very subjective gut feeling than reasonable or Dany with his last pop-in when mavs accused him of being defensive. But even then it stands in conflict to Dany's earlier posts which I liked and agreed with, so this doesn't really feel that much better. Atm I feel I am doing better with doing it reverse and look where I don't want to lynch until something gives me major pings.

Remind me who's in your not-lynch-today pile?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I don't like the bob post MT tunnel, I don't feel like MT has changed what he has been saying, so his latest post doesn't make much sense to me.

Are you still scumreading MT?

[BBmolla]

mavsfan41

- Town

iDanyboy

- scum

geraintm

- scum

Espressojet

- scum

BBmolla*

- town

bob3141

- lyncher

TheTrollie

- town

Allomancer

- town

Skellen

- scum

Morning Tweet

- town

Cat Scratch Fever

- town

Bambi Jay

Vigneshwar

- town

Paragon

- town

Bored to Death

Events

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Apparently my last post didn’t count as content so here you go

With girlfriend all day cause haven’t seen her in a week more later

[BBmolla]

BB, do you still scumread Skellen?

I still think what they did was kinda whack ye

[BBmolla]

Can we figure out this bob wagon

[SirCakez]

Prodding Paragon

[Morning Tweet]

bob3141

- lyncher

i laughed

Can we figure out this bob wagon

its town driven

[Morning Tweet]

geraintm

- scum

Bambi Jay

Vigneshwar

- town

im curious abt how you developed a read on this pair

all i know about gerain is that he doesn't enjoy RVS and other day one antics ;(

and idk bambi is mostly just vibing aside from inquiring about trollie's case on skelly

[BBmolla]

I made up those reads to appear like I was giving content

[Morning Tweet]

ah carry on then good sir

[bob3141]

normaly there is atleast one scum on a wagon of four. Some times you have all town wagons but they always stuggle to get big with out atleast one scum to act as a sort of glue.


now i know im town and my wagon has been stuck on 4 for few days. The question is does this mean one in the 4 is likely to be scum or that its simply lacks glue that scum. Now the lack of momentum makes me tink scum are not actively pushing this as wagosn pushed by 2-3 scum tend to actualy grow upto l-1. So at most my gut is sayign there is one scum on my wagon simply due to the dynamics of the wagon.

Now in prior games town wagons tend to be all town when either scum simply doesnt want to be look bad when the town flip happens. With scum in those cases normaly being on the fence on that wagon or pushing someone who doesnt want to vote on it.

Few will actualy actively push against such wagon as all town wagons on town can result on town simply mislynchign the next day as well. Scum only push against a town wagon when they actualy gain something

[Paragon]

In you see that tweet inst talkign to me as though he thinks im scum nor that he even thinks im town. That level of compilation is hard for scum as they tend to end up either side but not the middle.

I think the word you're looking for there is fence-sitting, and it certainly can come from scum! Why can't scum!Morning Tweet be fencesitty on your alignment while you attack her - weighing up others' reactions and the wagon on you before taking a true stance?
Note, I'm not accusing Morning Tweet of this, but I'd like to hear why you're so sure Morning Tweet is town for behaviour that could be perceived as coming from either alignment.

Bob's tone otherwise actually feels like town, but I just don't believe his progression and read on Morning Tweet.

[SirCakez]

Prodding geraintm and Espressojet

[Paragon]

I tried looking for cute cat and bat gifs but they all involved the cats eating the bats :/

[Paragon]

I suppose I'll make a readslist.

For now: VOTE: Bob

Allomancer's changed my mind.

noting this post, wonder if it will be indicative of future voting from paragon.

What do you mean by this?

I like to note when there are people who switch their votes because someone else has persuaded them to do so. I find it can help spot people placing votes that end up being scummy.

By that, I meant I didn't find Allomancer as scummy anymore. Not that he affected my read of the Bob man.

I have just read 5 pages...and ive got nothing. I see no reason to move my vote somewhere, I am happy to watch a few people argue a bit and just get to know people a little bit more.

How would you rank rats, bats, cats, and goats in a tier list of preference?

[bob3141]

In you see that tweet inst talkign to me as though he thinks im scum nor that he even thinks im town. That level of compilation is hard for scum as they tend to end up either side but not the middle.

I think the word you're looking for there is fence-sitting, and it certainly can come from scum! Why can't scum!Morning Tweet be fencesitty on your alignment while you attack her - weighing up others' reactions and the wagon on you before taking a true stance?
Note, I'm not accusing Morning Tweet of this, but I'd like to hear why you're so sure Morning Tweet is town for behaviour that could be perceived as coming from either alignment.

Bob's tone otherwise actually feels like town, but I just don't believe his progression and read on Morning Tweet.

What i said is not the same as fence sitting. There is an aspect of tone to it. A feeling that teh player is actualy trying to come to a conclusion rather than trying to avoid comign down on one side. Any way thast the feelign i got from that post. Sort of an openness

I reevaluate my pushs every few days. And my scum read on him prb stemed from my tendancy to scum read those who starting be more combative rather than comparative to my questions. But looks liek it may of just stemed from miscommunication. prob should of put those last 3 words to my question. Would certainly made it clear i was asking for more elaboration.


Fence sitting tends to be wishy washy. where the player realy is just trying to pr. And tends to feel more like "yes and no" rather than "mmm" . Scum are informed so its naturaly hard for them to come across as actual solving. They can scum read, town read and fence sitt but its hard for them to have real conviction in the middle while appearing open. Either it tends to be weak or they gravitate to talking to the player as though they are town or scum.

And some times they can get teh town wrong and push scum read whiel talking to the person as if they are town and vica versa

[Morning Tweet]

I tried looking for cute cat and bat gifs but they all involved the cats eating the bats :/

this is terrible noooo!!!

[Morning Tweet]

who would you like to lynch instead bob