Micro 930: Neon Mafia (Game over!)

[nomnomnom]

Luca you want to see some funny shit?
Start voting Quag and see how many people sheep you
you're going to have a good laff as you realize that everyone magically sheeps you there it's a magic trick

[Luca Blight]

nom's posting since being put at L-1 is super towny and it's basically locked in my prior townread

How is it super townie?

Put yourself in nom's mindset for a minute here

If you're getting pushed to L-1 and you think scum are manipulating the gamestate your priority is getting people to pay attention to that

Which I think is exactly what nom is doing and it's a level of conviction that would be super hard to fake imo

That’s taking the situation out of context, and I don’t think it’s hard to fake from desperate scum.

It makes no sense how resistant Nom was to a Quags lynch when she wasn’t even Tr’ing him that strongly (she said herself Looker is a much stronger TR). She voted Quags twice and both times quickly switched to someone else or unvoted. It makes no sense how she thinks Aldu is 100x scummier than Quags. Most likely this is s/s or a failed white-knighting attempt that she got too deep in to get out of.

She’s jumped on me, Skitter and now Furret with the same apparent ‘conviction’. Her case on me was pure garbage and basically scratching around for any reason to SR me, and her Skitter push didn’t come from a townie mindset for the reasons I explained. Only now that every other avenue has been exhausted has she jumped on Furret with this apparent ‘conviction’.

It’s fake as fuck.

[Luca Blight]

Luca you want to see some funny shit?
Start voting Quag and see how many people sheep you
you're going to have a good laff as you realize that everyone magically sheeps you there it's a magic trick

Can you not see that people aren’t sheeping me?

If they were you’d be dead by now.

[nomnomnom]

yeah everything I do is fake because I dared thinking you were scum at some point of this game hahaha
you're a clown I'd pay to see your face when I flip town

[nomnomnom]

People are absolutely sheeping the hell out of you considering that they said they would

PREFER

a quag lynch yet those same people sheeped you as soon as you voted me
you are absolutely stupid open your eyes, read this game once more and stop confbiasing you are the literal reason this gamestate is even a thing and you're going to lynch a town neighbor who can actually be an IC because you let people get away with shit because of stupid confbias

[nomnomnom]

There is literally absolutely 0 fuck all that justifies Furret's vote on me
read his iso right now and you'll see it too
do I really need to case right now and show you all of this shit or are you just going to ignore everything like an idiot

[Captain the Furret]

PLEEEEASE Case me I gotta see this

[Luca Blight]

Fmpov lynching Furret could also be lynching a possible IC, so that argument won’t wash.

I also think you’re fake for your reaction to the Quags wagon - it doesn’t make sense coming from town when you weren’t TR’ing that strongly.

Your AtE also reads fake to me, and seems to be characteristic of your previous scum games.

[Captain the Furret]

I want to see you put the maximum amount of effort into pushing me noms.
I would love it if you did that

[Captain the Furret]

You can’t lynch me noms
You don’t have the votes

[nomnomnom]

I also think you’re fake for your reaction to the Quags wagon - it doesn’t make sense coming from town when you weren’t TR’ing that strongly.

are you kidding me
do you really think I spend all my time and energy as scum saying I am not sure about Quag's lynch when the whole table seems to think he is and that the only way you can justify me being scum here is if I'm partner with Quags?? Are you stupid?
I've told you before to give me an analysis of why any of this would make sense if I was scum but quags was town and your explanation was "could be whiteknighting" which again is completely fucking stupid considering that all the table was in accord to lynch him and that I gain nothing as scum to do any of this

AND THE FACT

I AM AT L-1 AS A RESULT

SHOULD BE PLENTY OF PROOF ENOUGH

[Luca Blight]

Your last line of argument is invalid - you weren’t to know you’d be put to L-1 when you made your defence of Quags.

Scum often defend lynch bait? Why are you trying to make out this is some impossible thing to happen?

Your subsequent reaction reeked of ‘Ive been caught for the wrong reasons’ which is consistent with this view.

[Luca Blight]

I still think it’s s/s, but if only one of Nom/Quags is scum then I’m more confident on Nom.

[nomnomnom]

It doesn't matter what I say I don't know why I try reasoning with you I am talking to a wall
let me post a case of Furret at least other people might wake up
I'm really mad at you for doing all of this shit, this is so poor townplay

[nomnomnom]

You shall die

PART 1

You’re trying to shoehorn my play into being scummy rather than fairly evaluating it imo. You’re under pressure and are scrambling for something to cling onto.

I agree that townreading people left and right can be a scumtell, but it doesn’t pertain to what I’ve done in this game.

Not voting a scumread I guess could be a thing, but you’re assuming a scummy motive when a townie one exists. You asked why I wasn’t voting you but ignored my answer and assumed a scummy motive - that makes it seem as though the only reason you asked that question was to set-up your hop onto my wagon.

Your recent opportunism also seems at odds with your AtE from the other page. One minute you’re feeling sad because you’re being scumread, the next you’re jumping on me for not automatically voting you after raising my suspicions. It feel off to me.

VOTE: Nom

you feel a bit more unnatural then the normal I played with you.
Later into the game at least you started to obvtown yourself, but atm you just feel very unnatural

Spoiler:

These are the posts I have the most problems with. I’ll see if I can put it into words:

That whole thing seems really out of character tbh

I think that's a nice way to put things I've been feeling
that opening is also really out of character imo, just feels awkward

Something about the wording of the first line feels a bit off to me. The entire post doesn’t really add anything except fuel to the fire.

let's all VOTE: iconeum for an

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D1 lynch!

this is just a personal note but this kind of rvs post/vote is scummy as fuck

I agree with Skitter that Menalque’s opening is NAI, especially taking into account his meta where it kind of makes sense. It’s possible that Nom felt the need to add something or her own to the table rather than purely sheeping, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

idk man people seem to think I'm stupid as fuck when it comes to scumhunting but what I say makes sense for me god damn it :/
hard to make people follow wagons with me when they hardly understand my reasonings and it's irritating

This seems a bit of an overreaction to Skitter’s comment. I’m not sure as Town if you’d take it to heart so much? It didn’t seem like a massive deal.

@skitt @furret what are your opinions on nomx3's scumgame?

do you scumread her

maybe

lmao
this level of non commitment

Why should he be committed on page 7/8 or whatever it is? I think ‘maybe’ is understandable in this context.

my seer senses are tingling
they're telling me that if furret was voting me, menalque would have sheeped
hmhnmhnnnn

Again her tone is preemptively defensive. This could be a move that’s designed to set Menalque up - either he doesn’t vote her because of the trap she’s set, or he does and she can be like ‘hah! I told you!’.

this feels like you're going down a list of things to attack over an actual read tbh

What gives you that impression?

It feels like
ok
so I can attack this post
and this post
and this post
but not this post
but also this post

VOTE: luca

Sheeps on the luca vote

honestly
its probably noms and someone else

Official Vote Count 1.06

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

nomnomnom

(3): Heaven, Luca Blight, Looker

Luca Blight

(2): nomnomnom, Menalque

Quagsire

(1): skitter30

Heaven

(1): Alduskkel

Not Voting

(2): Quagsire, Captain the Furret

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-31 12:15:00).

Mod notes:

• skitter30 standing V/LA Fridays and Saturdays & mental health V/LA.

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hmmmmm
quag and I voted Luca.
Probably Quag? That or scum is off wagon but I'm not sure they're on the nom wagon.

Instantly look to throw under the bus that sheeped on the Luca vote to make you forget he did it because he saw how you reacted to me voting you and thinking you're scum

VOTE: Noms
that should be L-1

instantly puts me, a previous townread

HE ONLY STATED IN THE HOOD

at L-1. I insist on the bolded. He kept this hidden for this very reason.

btw my biggest issue with noms right now is that I feel like she identified me as town when I am playing in a way I feel like its very hard to get a good read on me, because
A. my play kind of sucks
B. I had some issues getting into the game.

it feels very much so like pocketting tbh.

Furret explain to me how I am pocketing you in our hood when you were the one that initiated the conversation there

i never said at all that you were using the hood to pocket me.

btw my biggest issue with noms right now is that I feel like she identified me as town when I am playing in a way I feel like its very hard to get a good read on me, because
A. my play kind of sucks
B. I had some issues getting into the game.

it feels very much so like pocketting tbh.

I didn't mention the word "hood" once in this post.

Accuses me of pocketing and when I ask about it, instantly backtracks out of it
Deflects the conversation with useless conversation considering that the only discussion we had previously was in our hood
Bullshit argument to justify his push if it was every put into question the following days

[Luca Blight]

It doesn't matter what I say I don't know why I try reasoning with you I am talking to a wall
let me post a case of Furret at least other people might wake up
I'm really mad at you for doing all of this shit, this is so poor townplay

So good Town play is giving in every time to AtE and abuse?

I’ve listened to and debated all your reasonings and arguments, and the end result is that I SR you and want you to be lynched.

End of story.

[nomnomnom]

PART 2

hmmmmm
today I learned that neapolitan checks me and noms as "not VTs" because we're in a hood.

i don't think i am comfortable putting a vote on noms when being introduced new information, and knowing me and how I look into setup design way too much, thats gonna take some time to interpret this.
I'm going to vote VOTE: Quagsire for now tho.

Furret is insanely mechtalk oriented and tries to posture from it by voting another popular wagon and as posturing for later since it would be easy to say "see I considered mech I can't be scum otherwise I would have pushed Nom right there for hood reasons". This is posturing considering he gave up on it entirely, so he is bullshitting. He already knows all the implications

time for furret no brain gameplay
brain is turned off
brain 0%
high yeprobablytbhyes

Just wants to coast through a gamestate where Luca is warping the gamestate around me and Quag, easy to justify votes without too much conviction.

ok i'll see what e has to say regarding that then. i'm not great at setup spec. i'm not really sure i townread furret though tbh.

ik im town
noms? haven't thought about it
been mostly designing game all day

Suddenly I am a ??? read to furret. Interesting considering that first I was a big townread of his in his hood (THAT HE DID NOT SHARE IN MAIN THREAD FOR REMINDER), put to L-1 and now he doesn't care? How strange isn't it, it's almost like he's pretending to be lost in this game when he's clearly fucking not and justifying his coasting

as for quag being scum
he just reads
very scum to me.
its rly hard to explain atm, but I just found his vote movements and what he's generally doing to feel very scummy

No explanation to scumread Quag, just is there because sheeping Luca on atrocious confbias

the biggest thing that makes me feel like quag and noms are buddies, its that quag supported Luca and that wagon got to L-1 very quickly, which makes me feel like more scum were on it.

Again throws other people under the wagon for something he can be criticized for as well which is a massive red flag.
Furret was the first in my hood to suggest that Luca was scum to me. He kept all of this shit in our neighborhood to posture like this later on, and on retrospective it's blatantly obvious.

vote me then, because no offense that sounds like a load of bs

it's such a dumb stance for her to take as scum tho
this whole argument is dumb ...

like i don't know how anyone can look at what i've said and done and come out with the conclusion that i'm bussing my partner to set up a mislynch on her yesterday
like i don't even know what to do with that

very simple question skitter
Do you think there’s town motivation behind the action?

vote me then, because no offense that sounds like a load of bs

it's such a dumb stance for her to take as scum tho
this whole argument is dumb ...

like i don't know how anyone can look at what i've said and done and come out with the conclusion that i'm bussing my partner to set up a mislynch on her yesterday
like i don't even know what to do with that

very simple question skitter
Do you think there’s town motivation behind the action?

i'm trying to figure that out and i'm leaning towards no

then its probably just scum

Literally analyzing the mood of skitter before throwing a vote on me.
At this point Furret has not voted me yet and is basically doing the equivalent of "vote there I will sheep you".
This is insanely scummy. There is absolutely no conviction on furret's slot concerning his vote, it's literally all sheeping and convincing others I am a good lynch

before voting me in the first place

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The biggest point in all of this is that furret has hidden his townread of me from the thread
Last point but very important
If Furret is going to deny he hid his townread of me from the thread and only posted it in the hood, I have this as proof:

VOTE: noms

?

im not sure I’m digging this push tbh.
What do you think?

This was not a real vote on me.
Furret thought I was town and tried to trap Menalque into voting me earlier on as a reaction test, and he only did so because he said I was town, otherwise he would have never done this.
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I rest my case. If you can't see that furret is coasting this gamestate through and trying to push a Quag/Me lynch by sheeping Luca, I can't do much for you.
I tried my best because I sure ain't letting furret get away with that much shit, not in a million years.
Die scum.

[nomnomnom]

I am now going to 100% bet that furret is going to shitpost because he already knows that everything I have said here is 100% right and that there's no possible defense from this and that with a lot of idiots here he can actually still manage to get a lynch on me considering that people STILL think me getting emotional at things is scummy which is fucking dumb but whatever I am used to it at this point.

Reconsider right now.

[Luca Blight]

I’m about to sleep anyway, will give your case some attention tomorrow. I’ll unvote for the meantime.

UNVOTE:

[Chemist1422]

Still think this conviction is fake Luca

p-edit: okay then

[nomnomnom]

If I am still somehow lynched because of astronomically dumb reasons PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LYNCH FURRET
If I see that you idiots still manage to not vote there tomorrow if I get lynched and get roped into a Quag lynch because of your confbiasing asses I will be very very mad
Just please for the love of god this game is tiring sometimes

[nomnomnom]

Fight me you furret skunk idiot
you shall die for ever thinking you could get me lynched and laughing at my face like this
the price you got is a massive case on you and the massive tide that are about to turn on you, as well as your lynch on the horizon
Give up.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Furret

I guess we can give this a shot and see how it unfolds

p-edit: okay that's a gen 1 game song for a gen 2 pokemon

[nomnomnom]

Even if you somehow manage to win this it's only a pyrrhic victory because as soon as I flip town everyone will stop getting paranoid over my emotional states and see that everything I said about you was true.
You trapped yourself in a situation that you cannot get out of. It's over for you no matter what happens
pedit: I only know of gen 1 and this song is my childhood soz

[Datisi]

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