Micro 930: Neon Mafia (Game over!)

[Captain the Furret]

I think it requires investigation from yours truely
Captain the Furret

[Captain the Furret]

I may not have my wooper friend with me, but I will solve this mystery!

[Quagsire]

well i fucked up. i really thought noms was town based off of her play around my wagon.

if you guys want to lynch me then go right ahead, i won't fight it. i think my lynch is probably necessary to help town win this game.

last scum is probably in {chemist, aldus}, both had some bad associations with noms. i can double check though.

[Captain the Furret]

okay let's compare these entrances with each other

okay

skitter town, captain town
aldus probably town? the basis for my scumread on them doesn't hold up anymore since nom flipped scum
quag is in this weird position where the way they and nom approached each other's slots seem like it could be partnery but also nom talked about them way more than anyone (except furret) so idk if that means they can't be partners or not

that leaves looker and gb who I don't have reads on

well i fucked up. i really thought noms was town based off of her play around my wagon.

if you guys want to lynch me then go right ahead, i won't fight it. i think my lynch is probably necessary to help town win this game.

last scum is probably in {chemist, aldus}, both had some bad associations with noms. i can double check though.

[Captain the Furret]

hoooooooonestly like
do I even need to lynch quag
like maybe in F5 yeah if we get that far, but I think the game is as ez as just lynch chemi gg ez pzy lemon squeezy.

[Quagsire]

these posts look bad while doing an iso on aldus

I'm suspicious of people who give townreads left and right because that's generally ultra scummy especially without much rationale behind it, especially in the context of micros where there is a lot more emphasis of finding other townies rather than minis and larges

i'm not following this logic. what's scummy about giving lots of townreads?

I'm on page 11 and nomnomnom looks like lynchbait

Luca, do you think nom thinks she could reasonably win a 1v1 with you, and that that would be preferable to trying to avoid suspicion some other way?

How sure are you that nom is scum? You're very confident in the read considering how early (at least, to me) in the game we are.

what do you think of the fact that nom said she isn't "reasonable"? since you are assuming that a town nom would be reasonable

i don't buy the narrative that nom was "coasting" on the menalque wagon

pedit: uhhhhhh

I'm on page 11 and nomnomnom looks like lynchbait

why are you townreading her?

My impression is that nom has been somewhat emotional/confrontational which has attracted votes but I don't think there's scum motive. Why try to provoke Luca into a 1v1 instead of deflecting? In a Luca vs. nom battle I think Luca is more likely to win and I think nom knows that as scum. As town, if she thinks Luca's scum then it might be an uphill battle but at least she's pursuing scum.

I don't agree with what she's said about Luca, but I can see the reasoning behind it. And like I've said previously, I don't think nom was "coasting" on the menalque wagon because she was engaging with him.

I mean I see what you’re saying but I’m just still not understanding Looker’s thought process as town or nom’s thought process as scum.

[Quagsire]

now from chemist

Nom's posting on pages 7 and 9 felt natural (168, 170, 211, 212 specifically)

I'm tempted to lolhammer but I am actually townreading nom, so

VOTE: Aldus

Let's see if this does anything

nom's posting since being put at L-1 is super towny and it's basically locked in my prior townread

Put yourself in nom's mindset for a minute here

If you're getting pushed to L-1 and you think scum are manipulating the gamestate your priority is getting people to pay attention to that

Which I think is exactly what nom is doing and it's a level of conviction that would be super hard to fake imo

VOTE: Furret

I guess we can give this a shot and see how it unfolds

p-edit: okay that's a gen 1 game song for a gen 2 pokemon

[Captain the Furret]

i am just gonna wait for skitter, replacement for wooper

[Quagsire]

i actually think aldus comes off a little worse than chem based off of his play at the end of the day. chem followed me and noms directly onto furret, which does look bad, but i'm not sure that scum!chem just blatantly follows scum!noms onto you like that + there's a chance he actually believed noms was town (like i did, yes i know hypocritical coming from me but *shrug*).

aldus on the other hand jumped onto me right after the wagon had shifted from me to noms, which looks even worse because based on the gamestate either me or noms were going to be lynched so naturally he wouldn't want his partner lynched. the only thing giving me pause is, why didn't he try harder to save his partner.

either way lynching {chem, aldus} in any order probably just wins us the game. if somehow it's not them then it's probably george.

[Quagsire]

also looker is probably town

[Alisae]

okay but you're not even trying to push me or question my stances. like it's not really a vanity when we still have time for other wagons to form. so if you think i'm scum, then you should be pushing me or trying to start a wagon on me, especially when others have expressed concerns about me.

i wasn't insulting you but okay. my point on your noms vote still stands.

Your suggestions are suggestions. I'm not going to fake some fabricated conviction to get others to vote you. This is a gambling game and I'm gambling.

VOTE: Luca Blight

what

[Captain the Furret]

okay but you're not even trying to push me or question my stances. like it's not really a vanity when we still have time for other wagons to form. so if you think i'm scum, then you should be pushing me or trying to start a wagon on me, especially when others have expressed concerns about me.

i wasn't insulting you but okay. my point on your noms vote still stands.

Your suggestions are suggestions. I'm not going to fake some fabricated conviction to get others to vote you. This is a gambling game and I'm gambling.

VOTE: Luca Blight

what

[Chemist1422]

TR: Luca Blight
TL: nomnomnom, Captain the Furret, skitter30
Null: Quagsire
SL: Alduskkel,
SR: Chemist1422, Looker

After reading through once, I think this is pretty much where my reads are.
I found myself agreeing a lot with Luca's plays, but I don't find nom particularly scummy.
As for Chemist and Looker, I think Looker is scummy for reasons stated above, and Chemist for his predecessor, Heaven.

VOTE: Chemist1422

A case on Nom might. I'm townreading Nom right now for her reaction to Looker pushing her.

I'm just curious on why you're so adamant it's Nom. I mean, we have one more day left. Do you think she's handled the wagon on her in a scummy way?

@George and Aldusk, can you two pick a wagon to support?
its crunch time.

Will do.

Sorry nom, Chemist joining the Ald wagon really doesn't help.

VOTE: nomnomnom

this is GB's entire progression on nom

I am not whelmed

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: GB

[Captain the Furret]

I have the feeling ima need to bring out the mapping technology

[Chemist1422]

I have the feeling ima need to bring out the mapping technology

hi I'm tired what does this mean

[Captain the Furret]

mena's 96 + george's 16 posts
Quag's 74 posts
Aldusk's 32 posts
Looker's 24 posts

Ye, I could probably go through and do Aldusk's and Lookers.
I might not have the discipline and work ethic to do Mena+George and Quags tho

[Captain the Furret]

I have the feeling ima need to bring out the mapping technology

hi I'm tired what does this mean

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11650482

[Captain the Furret]

+ working together with somebody, townreading them, defending them, buddying them, helping them, allying with them
- working against somebody, scumreading them, attacking them, pushing them, discrediting them
= neutral interactions, usually quoting somebody without either attacking or defending them, sometimes these are just interactions about setup spec or passing mentions of a slot, sometimes this is responding to a case someone made against you without making it clear whether you’re scumreading them in return or townreading them.
== stating explicitly that a person is a null read
? I didn’t understand this reaction. this modifies a previous symbol, so +? means “is this an interaction with a townread?” and -? means “is this an interaction with a scumread?” and +?-? means i have no clue what’s going on in that post.
v votes
u unvotes but only if someone says who they’re unvoting because i’m lazy
☾ ☀ marks boundaries between days. (if the thread isn't locked during the night then i use sun and moon both, otherwise i just pick one)
✝ a gravestone to mark that a slot has died.
r the slot they're talking about was replaced
R the slot I'm ISO mapping was replaced
⌾ marks a slot that has been tree-stumped/innocent child reveal
_ conspicuous absences (a post that mentions almost everybody in the playerlist except one person)
k dayvig (real or fake)

[Chemist1422]

oh okay

[Captain the Furret]

would u like to give it a try?

[Chemist1422]

maybe in a little bit

this probably wouldn't work that well for me because having all the info wouldn't mean I'd be able to put it together

[Captain the Furret]

see, if we have the information, then me and skitter can do the thing where we look into it and solve the mystery

[Chemist1422]

ah

sounds productive maybe I will do that

[Chemist1422]

yeah I'll give it a shot with nom ig