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[clidd]

Changing the subject, I find myself in a difficult position. I spent 3 hours doing my analysis on Marashu and it would be painful to see it being thrown away.

My reasoning may be strange, but I feel that if Mala claims VT, she is automatically scum, so I would like to press her slot.

[clidd]

What do you think about it, Datisi ?

[clidd]

Marashu and Mala disappearing now don't help much either. I feel like I'm unconsciously playing the devil's advocate.

[clidd]

Hey Word, I would like to hear you on that too.

[word321]

I nul VT, and that would not change a thing about my read on mala. The only other real claim is a game changer in some regards, and would rly move the game. I dnt support a claim without a reason, though. I do like the idea of pressure; but without an imminent lynch, the mason looses its meaning both in Lylo and as a town guide.

[Datisi]

Changing the subject, I find myself in a difficult position. I spent 3 hours doing my analysis on Marashu and it would be painful to see it being thrown away.

My reasoning may be strange, but I feel that if Mala claims VT, she is automatically scum, so I would like to press her slot.

i'm sorry about that. but it's just, i don't thnik those were *good* reasons to clear him.

What do you think about it, Datisi ?

Hm. I'm a bit conflicted, because the more the game goes on the more i'm fine with lynching Mala. but Mara has obviously been scummy and there's a general consensus that you don't let scummy low-posting slots like that live to lylo. however, if Mara is town i really think Mala and I are going to be cross-voting tomorrow so i'm not sure how much the order matters.

i think i'd be in favor of pressing Mala if it weren't for the fact we're running out of time and the world has been crazy the past couple of weeks so it's completely understandable people don't have as much time to play. plus the site lags screwed us over too i think.

[clidd]

@Marashu @Malakittens

--> I need both back to the game.

@Karnage

--> Prod on Marashu.

[word321]

At least Mala has been somewhat consistent on her post times, so we should see her in about 4 hours. And maybe Mara will come in 1~2 hours too.

[Maduisha]

My reasoning may be strange, but I feel that if Mala claims VT, she is automatically scum, so I would like to press her slot.

Why? We're in a mason setup, there are enough Vanilla Townies for it to be true. Also... are we sure we want Malakittens to claim? She could be the other mason and have shot ourselves in the foot by revealing them before lylo. I agree she needs to claim if she's actually going to get lynched (I doubt that'll come, but eh), but not just randomly. I might be biased because I really am only seeing

Marashu

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Malakittens

, but this sounds like a bad idea.

[word321]

clidd, Ive seen u focusing mainly on mala and mara recently while commenting fewer on dats and skitter slots, even if they are also being sr to some degree, even if by PoE. What is ur current read on them and why?

[word321]

I agree with mad, and propose to stop talking about claims entirely.

[clidd]

My reasoning may be strange, but I feel that if Mala claims VT, she is automatically scum, so I would like to press her slot.

Why? We're in a mason setup, there are enough Vanilla Townies for it to be true. Also... are we sure we want Malakittens to claim? She could be the other mason and have shot ourselves in the foot by revealing them before lylo. I agree she needs to claim if she's actually going to get lynched (I doubt that'll come, but eh), but not just randomly. I might be biased because I really am only seeing

Marashu

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Malakittens

, but this sounds like a bad idea.

I agree with mad, and propose to stop talking about claims entirely.

[clidd]

I'm going to take a break, I need to refresh my mind.

[Karnage]

@Karnage --> Prod on Marashu.

Marashu isn't due for a prod until (expired on 2020-04-04 05:20:00) has elapsed.

[Marashu]

Here now, reviewing posts from today.

[word321]

Hey Mara
...I kind of overreacted on 1460 for a misinterpretation of your intent about the number posts. Rereading ur post made me realize u only meant it as an easy to read ISO. So, I apoligize for that. But even then, the rest of to post remains true.

[Marashu]

My reasoning may be strange, but I feel that if Mala claims VT, she is automatically scum, so I would like to press her slot.

I don't like how you handled this, but are you basically saying that Mala had access to another source of information in this game (either from a mason chat or a mafia chat)? But I also don't think you fish for mason this way, because I think scum!clidd presses for the claim and then uses logical agility to present "evidence" on a VT claim after the fact. But I also think scum!clidd would have been combing for breadcrumbs.

@word, you're a replacement, true, but you came in pretty early, and basically had 7 days worth of D1. Also, your slot was null before you subbed in. But you are right in that your post count was not part of my case on you.

But i've seen townies do this like ... all the time
I do it all the time, as either alignment
I kinda dont like you calling this a scumslip

If I'm the only one who sees it that way, then I must be wrong about it being a slip, but I still think it's scummy to be breaking the game down into numbers instead of offering reads.

@Mad you say you won't be moving your vote from me but you also want to explore as many possibilities as you can. To me it sounds like you're too determined to lynch me and even if a stronger case presented itself you still would not budge. If you're being stubborn because of how you were talked out of lynching me D1 then I don't think I can stop that, but I think you are tunneling really hard.

I don't want us to be LyLo with Mala if I am lynched but I also don't think Mala is scum, so it's my intent to try and get a better case (probably on word because he's my biggest SR but I want to review a few other interactions first). I plan on having it together tomorrow afternoon at some point.

@clidd it sounded like you had questions - I'll be off for a few hours but should be able to post before bed.

[Malakittens]

That's not what I meant to ask, sorry. Do you think moving out of the joke votes this early is a bad thing?

Ah, no. Sooner we get out of joke votes, the better.

But then, I'm not really a fan of D1 mason flip anyway, so it might just be a personal thing.

What do you mean by this?

I mean that I don't like D1 mason roleclaim. Maybe because I've only seen it revealed later in the past, but I feel like you can get more out of it by revealing it later.

Skitter: I don't think TRQ was joking because of :

skitter was innocent child in that game and mason is the only day 1 confirmed town in this setup and i didn't want maduisha to get bored enough to yolohammer someone slightly later on like in 1987 so i figured i'd say something that might get the game moving a bit.

I don't know if TRQ is telling the truth, but I do think that TRQ is serious. I don't know why any other townie would claim that, and it's stupid (but welcome) for mafia to claim that. Only the other mason (and probably the mafia) would know for sure if TRQ is telling the truth, and roughly as many people would know if TRQ is lying.

Based on the way this game is going, I'm pretty sure most people here aren't completely new to mafia.
So everyone here's had some sort of prior experience with mafia, right?

It's been years since I've played, so I am definitely feeling rusty with scumhunting and trying to read into posts. That said, I'm not sure how I feel about clidd's take on GeneralWu. It kinda felt like "This person was questioning me but then re-read what I wrote and agrees with my point so must be town."

[Malakittens]

Changing the subject, I find myself in a difficult position. I spent 3 hours doing my analysis on Marashu and it would be painful to see it being thrown away.

My reasoning may be strange, but I feel that if Mala claims VT, she is automatically scum, so I would like to press her slot.

No one at this point should be claiming unless being ran up because we still have a mason. We don’t need to actually masonhunt for scum and the more claims we have the easier it is for them to kill the remaining mason during the night.

My reasoning may be strange, but I feel that if Mala claims VT, she is automatically scum, so I would like to press her slot.

Why? We're in a mason setup, there are enough Vanilla Townies for it to be true. Also... are we sure we want Malakittens to claim? She could be the other mason and have shot ourselves in the foot by revealing them before lylo. I agree she needs to claim if she's actually going to get lynched (I doubt that'll come, but eh), but not just randomly. I might be biased because I really am only seeing

Marashu

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Malakittens

, but this sounds like a bad idea.

[Malakittens]

Word and Datisi with using Mala and Mara. This brings me back to the good old days when there was another Mara that used to play. If from now on we could go by Kitty or Kit for the rest of the game so we don’t get messages crossed in trying to differentiate between possible spelling errors of interchanging the two names

I had a bunch of posts quoted, but they got deleted

[Malakittens]

I also don’t like possibly planning the next days up for Lynches until we have a floup. In my opinion that’s more scum motivated and right now until we have a solid scum flip it’s hard to figure out the partner and we are just like pointing fingers. I have never been a big fan of lining up lynches so if we could not do that it would be graaaand

[Malakittens]

So the sequence is:

Marashu flips town D2

> clidd killed N2 >

Menalque flips scum D3

> Maduisha killed N3 >

Lylo [Datisi, Skitter and Word].

Is that it ?

Um what. Also this isn’t going to be right because my slot is green and will flip green because newbies aren’t a bastard game

[clidd]

Yep, Malakittens is scum. Moving to D3.



VOTE: Malakittens L-1.

[Malakittens]

Let’s not and say we did. Why did I get pushed to scum

[Malakittens]

Or are we just going to throw me to L-1 and then disappear