Mini Normal 2128: Normal Mafia - Game Over!

[bob3141]

There is no reason for scum to push against my wagon unless they themselves wanted my vote. And if the player they were pushing was on my wagon. They could hardly call me scum at the same time.

They couldnt support my push as that would alienate those one the wagon. Especially if they felt that following would just look bad on them.

Yet at the same time if they got their target lynched. They could always swing back and try and revive the my wagon on that players flip.

[Madoka]

Also Titus I agree that Espresso was defending Dany there...

I'm not going to answer your questions if you're not going to listen to what I say

I feel strange, am I not being concise?

I could very much be misunderstanding. I've been having difficulty parsing your phrasing. I've read 494 a dozen times and still don't understand.

a Dany posts a read lists and asks if anyone wants to engage with it.
b You're not sure if you love or hate that because it's over eager.
...
c You believe people are strongly reading Dany
d Not reading him strongly is something to be suspicious of

I'm not getting how c connects to a and b. Or how d follows from c. I'm not trying to be pedantic or throw shade here, I just genuinely don't understand what you're saying. What I

am

suspicious of, however, is the love/hate bit as it reads unecessarily "mulling" over a line I don't think is telling either way (as MT explained in 457). If there's no way of interpreting if it's coming from town or scum, what was the purpose of commenting on it?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

There is no reason for scum to push against my wagon unless they themselves wanted my vote. And if the player they were pushing was on my wagon. They could hardly call me scum at the same time.

They couldnt support my push as that would alienate those one the wagon. Especially if they felt that following would just look bad on them.

Yet at the same time if they got their target lynched. They could always swing back and try and revive the my wagon on that players flip.

Who are you talking about here?

[Espressojet]

Also Titus I agree that Espresso was defending Dany there...

I'm not going to answer your questions if you're not going to listen to what I say

I feel strange, am I not being concise?

I could very much be misunderstanding. I've been having difficulty parsing your phrasing. I've read 494 a dozen times and still don't understand.

a Dany posts a read lists and asks if anyone wants to engage with it.
b You're not sure if you love or hate that because it's over eager.
...
c You believe people are strongly reading Dany
d Not reading him strongly is something to be suspicious of

I'm not getting how c connects to a and b. Or how d follows from c. I'm not trying to be pedantic or throw shade here, I just genuinely don't understand what you're saying. What I

am

suspicious of, however, is the love/hate bit as it reads unecessarily "mulling" over a line I don't think is telling either way (as MT explained in 457). If there's no way of interpreting if it's coming from town or scum, what was the purpose of commenting on it?

You're right, I should just keep all of my spur of the moment opinions to myself

[Cat Scratch Fever]

In the first post she justifies Skells behavior by saying that this is all a misunderstanding and that Skells posts on me and then on allo

were consistent with one another

I don't really see this part as a contradiction

I think Madoka was arguing that Skellen had a plausibly real thought process on you and allo

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Espresso if there were more time in this day phase, who would you prefer to lynch?

[Madoka]

Cat, Mini 2121 is actually where I'm drawing mavs meta too and one of the reasons I've been town reading him. He's an appeal to the public/solidarity type of player in general. Ex: 408 on BEF, you can see how he's gearing up to unvote similar to how he geared up to vote me here; 466, working through his thoughts similar to 478 here; 579, asking for people to help on his BEF read; 669, stating a strong opinion then completely undermining it.

I'd still like him to address, specifically, where he disagrees with my case however because I think Trollie is full of it at this point, and I don't think one can rationally come to the same conclusion if fairly comparing our arguments.

[Madoka]

Just read these two posts. I think they tell different stories of how she read skell.

Can you spell it out for me?

Yeah sorry actually it's not as in your face as I remembered.

In the first post she justifies Skells behavior by saying that this is all a misunderstanding and that Skells posts on me and then on allo were consistent with one another

in the second one she says she pre-replacing in town-read skell because "Her questioning trolley's Allo read in 121 then voting Allo in 122 indicated that she was playing stream of consciousy and not to make friends."

The second post justifies her slot's towniness by saying that only town would post the inconsistency that she has spent the whole game trying to prove was not actually inconsistent

I can't recall the term for this but you're conflating two different connotations of the word 'inconsistent'. In the first sense, her

mindstate

is consistent/not contradictory. In the second sense, her

posts

are not constructed in a way as to form a consistent

narrative

.

[Madoka]

Equivocation is the term: https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/reso ... ation.html

[Madoka]

Cat, I'll have my thoughts on Bob before the end of the day.

Espresso, are you not going to clarify?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Cat, Mini 2121 is actually where I'm drawing mavs meta too and one of the reasons I've been town reading him. He's an appeal to the public/solidarity type of player in general. Ex: 408 on BEF

granted, this does ring more familiar to his play here.

466, working through his thoughts similar to 478 here;

This was one of the posts that I thought was different from his posts here. He obviously wasn't entirely sure of his scumread on Jake from State Farm, but he still clearly listed the reasons for thinking he is scum and voted. He verbalized his doubts but he wasn't being contrarian for the sake of it, like he was here.

I don't get the impression that mavs really thinks you're scum here tbh.

579, asking for people to help on his BEF read;

idk 579 from this other game reads like a decent scumhunting post with some solid arguments and I don't really see a comparable post here?

[BBmolla]

I think one or both of mav/Titus is scum from the Bob wagon, it stalled at a very strange point

And I could go Madoka if we want to go that way

I genuinely believe Trolley believes his post and don’t have interest lynching there

Gers last post was really Town imo

Espresso also seems pretty genuine to me

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Maybe 352 and 383 are scumhunt-y enough from mavs?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think one or both of mav/Titus is scum from the Bob wagon, it stalled at a very strange point

And I could go Madoka if we want to go that way

I genuinely believe Trolley believes his post and don’t have interest lynching there

Gers last post was really Town imo

Espresso also seems pretty genuine to me

I'd agree on Titus if bob is town. I don't think mavs was on the bob wagon unless you count his rvs vote ig

I'm not really seeing town in Espresso either

[Morning Tweet]

^^^^^^

I also think bob stands a fairish chance at being scum but I feel increasingly alone on that

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I kinda feel like I need more thoughts from bob in order to develop thoughts on bob.

Wrt Titus, I remember thinking if Madoka and Trollie are TvT (which is where I'm at right now), then I'm not sure why scum!Titus would divert attention away from there.

VOTE: Espresso

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Trollie who else besides Madoka are you scumreading?

[BBmolla]

Bob flashwagon? Anyone down?

[Espressojet]

I don't understand why I'm being scumread

UNVOTE:

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Bob

[Bambi Jay]

We're in the last day now. Hmm.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: bob

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I don't understand why I'm being scumread

UNVOTE:

I don't really see you trying to solve

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Bob

[Titus]

Why are we flashwagoning now? We have a perfectly good wagon in Danyboy.

I wish Trollie and Madoka would stop their T v T thing.