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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:28 pm

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I think HeM is a good choice then. The Hikari NK would make more sense.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:36 pm

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my dudes i got a "Why Scum Is Completely Fucked - a three-part essay by Datisi" that will be dropping to a mafia game near you as soon as The Massclaim is finished
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:38 pm

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will it be too easy?

For Datisi?
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:41 pm

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The reasons for my partner exclusions

Datisi

=/ bugs (obvious reasons)
=/ Hiraki
= scum with hem (hem's treatment of Datisi as if they were already scum)

humaneatingmonkey

=/ Hiraki (their back and forth)
= scum with Datisi (see above)
~Looks like I didn't have bugs here either

HoldenGolden

=/ George

Shiki

=/ Hiraki TMI read on Hiraki
=/ Bugs (regarding George's 291, I had the same thoughts) and followup in .
=/ George (the bottom response to me)

GeorgeBailey

=/ Hiraki (push on Hiraki)
=/ Bugs (felt like they were too connected to be scum at the time)
=/ Shiki (see above)
=/ Holden (see above)

bugspray

=/ Hiraki (Hiraki's town read)
=/ George (see above)
=/ Shiki (see above)
=/ Datisi (see above)

Hiraki

=/ bugs (see above)
=/ George (see above)

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I think Holden or Monkey is the way to go. I had gotten so caught up on a Luca team that I overlooked the fact they were both candidates.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:44 pm

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I'll catch you one of these days Luca, no matter how many games it takes of me scum reading you!
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:55 pm

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I think I know who you are.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:01 pm

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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:06 pm

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you're datisi cause strawberry
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:11 pm

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I had a feeling I knew who Madoka is, and now I know for sure ;)
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:57 pm

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Btw, Madoka, apologies for what I said earlier. The gambit was well thought out and executed. Just wish you came clean with it a bit sooner. :lol:
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:55 am

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Hmm, maybe Neap makes sense in this set up.
Weaker Innocent child as we know Datisi cannot be lying due to bugs flip
Then you have BG and neap who imo are both weaker than the parent roles they are based on (Doctor and Cop)

That would mean though mafia has an additional PR as well so the neap false positive pool only be 2 whom we both would know.

Assuming if Madoka is not lieing, the game is easier to solve. Only four suspects are me/HEM/Luca/Shiki

No lynch night George dies 6v1
Assuming no PR check, one of those suspects goes away. Lynch one: 5v1
Night Madoka dies 4v1
Lynch one of the two suspects left 3v1 if wrong
Night kill on datisi
Only one suspect alive in 2v1

That is assuming tho too that mafia does not have role blocker or any way to hide the last role from neap.

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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:57 am

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We're massclaiming. I can brute force the game from there. Claim please. :]
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:59 am

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Oops forget to include that.

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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:00 am

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Also no lynch is objectively the
worst
possible thing we can do today. So we're not doing that.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:03 am

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If this is truely the set up, then I'm looking forward to see what the last scum role is.

The neighborhood never has the chance to confirm both if BG and Neap both claim (as there is no way 4 PR roles are balanced for a 9p game).

5v1 3 left day 3
4v1 2 left after night 3 george dies
3v1 1 left neap check

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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:04 am

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Wait no I fucked up

4v1 2
Lynch
3v1 1 left
2v1 with 1 left at start of lylo
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:07 am

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In post 739, HoldenGolden wrote:If this is truely the set up, then I'm looking forward to see what the last scum role is.
Hint: it's a Goon.

If all the roleclaims right now are true and shiki and HEM both claim VT, the game is balanced with the last scum being a Goon.

Also don't worry about counting numbers, I already got my essay ready. Just need the last two claims.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:12 am

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You mean I don't have to read and we can just brute force this game? Sign me up.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:26 am

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Oookay. I think we can still brute force this, but in a different way. I'll have to rework the essay.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:29 am

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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:27 am

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A fourth PR role?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but at this point, a PT cop is useless since bugs flipped correct?
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:31 am

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my role pm just says i can know if someone has access to a private thread. so i guess i can still find the last mafia. my guess is Datisi is a neighborizer, and since the neighborhood is supposed to be a secret until the last minute, it makes interesting scenarios. maybe that's why we have a neap as a second investigative role? im not good at setup spec
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:33 am

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since the neighborhood is out there now, i have a 20/20 vision now
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:36 am

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I guess I have to wait for Datisi to explain why they think this is a balanced set up with goon (although that may change now with HEM claim)

PEDIT: Hmm, I ask because on the wiki it says that they have to have access to a PT/outside communications and be able to communicate in it (which by how it was worded there suggests that the PT has to have 2 alive players)

If Datisi is a neighboriser it gets even crazier
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:37 am

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I doubt that though because that means Datisi would not be neighbors with Bugs as the wiki states that neighborizers that start with no neighbors are Normal, not the other way around
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