Mini 2131: Furret's Bizzare Adventure Part 2 (over)

[Pink Ball]

This is so much fun

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: Should I make a game of this

[Datisi]

4

[Pink Ball]

4

Good choice!!

[Datisi]

I am only moderately scared

[Pink Ball]

Ok one couple done, 4 to go.

Let me think how they'll be decided 'cause if someone else comes and say a number they'll know they won't be matched with Datisi so it's a no no

[Pink Ball]

Ok got it!!! All couples are done!

Let the battle of love begin

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, literally the only conclusion i can get out of you doing that shit is: You're not trying to sort me. You're avoiding calling me scum because it's gonna look bad once you force my flip and it's green, but you're avoiding calling me town because otherwise you can't policy me through.

Pedit: i can feel when we actually vibe. I didn't feel it at all this game. And why would town you like, not even try to convince me otherwise? Or try to sort me at least? Instead just keep memeing and ignoring me?

Datisi is making some good arguments tbqh :/

But like the Mena wagon at EoD yesterday was trash, why are you overlooking that?

[Gamma Emerald]

All I cared about on D1 at the beginning was my electoral campaign

If I’m still fairly low energy then it’s because I’m still kind of lowkey pissed that Titus was elected and not me

:/

[Gamma Emerald]

We should randomize couples in the game and make them implicit lovers.

If one of them dies, the other has to die too. If for example we lynch Datisi today and his lover is Mena, Mena gets lynched the next day if the scumteam doesn't kill Mena first. 'Cause if the scumteam doesn't kill Mena, we have to decide between Mena and whoever was killed's lover.

The fun part is that no one will know who their lover is, only me!! Since we are 11 someone has to be left out and it was MY idea so I'll offer to do the hard work and stay out of it.

Ok I'll make the pairings and I'll throw hints so you can find out who your lover is!! If both of you recognize each other as lovers you'll get immunity for the day!!!!

I’ll only play this if the pairings are PUBLIC. I’m not letting you hide some shitty manipulative pairing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also who’s the spare

There’s one right answer imo, anything else you better get ready to tell me why

[Datisi]

But like the Mena wagon at EoD yesterday was trash, why are you overlooking that?

i mean. PP was voting there until the last second, and I was TRing him. Maria was forced to vote there bc CW. and I kinda don't SR either Pine or Ginnie ig?

[gobbledygook]

Time for gobbledygook's super secret scumread!!

Step right up,

Chemist1422

!

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Chemist (along with Menalque, Pinkball, and Alyssa) had a really weird read on MariaR yesterday as you can see below. He also avoided her wagon, preferring to stay on the Alyssa wagon. I think that scum were less likely to push in that end of day situation and were trying to make any lynch not MariaR happen. Losing 800 gold off the bat is particularly neutering for the scum.

I'm liking Maria's posts for no specific reason, or at least not one that I can pinpoint

In addition, when confronted with suspicion on his slot by Ginngie, Chemist responded defensively to Ginngie's post rather than trying to scumhunt.

I'm liking Maria's posts for no specific reason, or at least not one that I can pinpoint

This with combined yesterday of not voting until a CW appeared for Maria wagon.

Makes me sus af to start the day with

This is more likely to be true if her CW was also her partner. Otherwise, why not vote the CW?

The vote counts were highly volitile so I'll try to make it parsable

Vote count 1.9 post 850

MariaR ---------- 5 ( Gobbledygook, Titus, PenguinPower, Datisi, Pink Ball )
Gobbledygook ---- 2 ( MariaR, Gamma Emerald )
Pink Ball ------- 2 ( Bingle, Alyssa the Lamb, )

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Chemist yet to vote, and then the two options at this point are PB and turkey, he then puts his vote on PB. That's first CW to maria train.

He also said he townread Pine and he isn't a player to make wild turnarounds. so in the next 50 pages when that wagon formed, he couldn't switch over without it being sus.

once the PB wagon died, and he was alone on that. Once he saw another player make a good case that wasn't on maria, he latched right on. Mind you he never once talked to lamb the whole game.

No reason to townread your partner and sheep other peoples cases and vote those you have no opinion on.

I said I townread Pine after I said I scumread and voted PB iirc

Finally, we get the Ellitell 2012. Chemist says this, but then actively posts elsewhere on the site. I watched him all day yesterday prioritize other threads on the site over this one.

hi sorry I've had stuff going on

I'm kinda tired and admittedly still have stuff going on but this game deserves more attention than what I've given so far today

Auction stuff noted what else is happening

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Chemist1422

[Alyssa The Lamb]

VOTE: Chemist1422

rawr

[Alyssa The Lamb]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 11

MariaR

---------- 5 ( Gobbledygook, Titus,

PenguinPower

, Datisi, Alyssa the Lamb )
Pine ------------ 3 ( Menalque, Bingle, Pink Ball )
Gobbledygook ---- 2 (

MariaR

, Gamma Emerald )
Pink Ball ------- 2 ( Chemist1422, Ginngie )

VOTE COUNT 1 . 12

MariaR

---------- 4 ( Gobbledygook, Titus,

PenguinPower

, Alyssa the Lamb )
Pine ------------ 3 ( Menalque, Bingle, Pink Ball )
Alyssa the Lamb - 3 ( Ginngie, Datisi, Chemist1422 )
Gobbledygook ---- 2 (

MariaR

, Gamma Emerald )

does anything look off about these (:

[Alyssa The Lamb]

btw I'd like to point out that the way MariaR treated me throughout the game is very similar to how she treated me throughout day four of the TM2020 large

this isn't necessarily indicative of anything since she's good enough to be able to fake that and I historically have the capability of directing my scumpartners on how to treat my slot (meaning I was likely preparing for the possibility of going down in the case I'm scum today), but it is food for thought in that the assumption that I'm scum alongside MariaR means that there has to be more going on that makes this type of play worth it when you consider our mutual actions throughout the rest of the day.

that said, I strongly strongly doubt that with MariaR being the lead wagon at that point and my wagon starting immediately afterwards that there weren't scum hopping onto it, and historically it's not impossible that the wagon was very scum rich based on how easily it just fizzled out completely. I would at least be shocked if the entirety of the non-MariaR wagon on me at roughly that time was town, which would leave Bingle + Menalque + Pink ball + Gamma Emerald as holding both remaining scum. I don't think this is the case.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I can actually get pretty good mileage from analyzing the vote counts fully I think

if anyone wants to color them in for me, I'd be very happy because I have other projects I want to do today while I have a day off from work and trying to extract half the VC from like 20-25 of them isn't something I really care to do right now

[Alyssa The Lamb]

the fact that the Menalque market manager wagon was Menalque + MariaR + Chemist1422 would be absolutely hilarious if they were all scum

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Ginngie/Titus/gobbledygook are pretty undisputedly town from my POV, although if Chemist flips town, GG is not necessarily in this category anymore

Pine's weird sheep onto my slot is something that I don't expect scum!him just does, especially if he goes and unvotes immediately afterwards claiming to suddenly read my catchup on this account. I get that his scumrange is pretty big, but this type of thought process is a bit out there for scum to try to come up with and I can see town having this sort of process show up when they're behind and not entirely sure about what they want to do. I will note that the way he handled the MariaR wagon at the same time has more scum indicative potential to it, but I suspect that PP wouldn't have been the nightkill if that was the case...? It's stretchy but I'm not seeing the pieces fit from a scum perspective very easily.

Menalque + Bingle + Datisi + Chemist1422 + Gamma Emerald

this feels right

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I really think picking a utility lynch that will sort the most slots accurately is optimal for this game since we're close to a critical mass of having enough obvtowns to where scum's only potential to come back into the game is with night action shenanigans, and we are already on a good track on constraining those.

someone should max out on the auction detective, just in case

[Pink Ball]

Huh

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I disagree with Titus' analysis that both auction detectives should've been posted today as well as gobble's analysis that this rand is inherently antitow; having both hitman and ninja show up today with exactly one of the auction detectives is actually a very good thing for town since scum now have to make a difficult choice between:

1. Getting one or both of the ninja/hitman and provably constraining their own potential to get PRs, giving town control over future PRs and forcing scum to think much more mechanically and giving town a free method of hard-guiltying one or both scum AS WELL AS a potential second shot at that same PR without the ability to prevent town from getting it.
2. Forgoing both PRs and the auction detective, giving town more PRs that they can potentially use to mechanically close out the game (and removing two of their methods of countering those from the game) for the price of a single PR being useless
3. Sniping the auction detective and one of the PRs. This prevents the immediate damage of both the above, but it gives a lot more future risk since the scumteam still cannot stop town from getting the PRs they want as well as still leaving an auction detective that can guilty both scum.

I already maxed out on the ninja
Whoever maxed out on the hitman needs to claim it
Someone needs to max out on the auction detective, but don't claim it

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Huh

what

is it that shocking that I'm playing the game?

[gobbledygook]

It is a bit, yes